Why guys get cheated by girls? Preventive Guide

[GL-Roamer]

Why guys get cheated by girls? (Part 1)

GL-Roamer’s guide to surviving manipulation by girls. It is my opinion and my way of doing things. Hope it helps. I apologise if the information is abit scattered or disorganized as I write this according to how my thoughts flow.

Introduction
After so many disheartening posts about guys being cheated / divorced and such I have decided to post this as an advice to my fellow bros, samsters and cheongsters here. Therefore I put together all the information for bros who do not have the time to read on the various topics and yet who are at risk of being cheated. Please read carefully and if you have any questions pls post so we can share with other bros.

This is also especially for the younger bros or bros who would wish to advise their sons or brothers and guys who want a commercial bonk. But I would like to remind anyone who reads this that this is my opinion on how of protect yourself against greedy deceitful girls and not a manual on how to seduce girls.

I hope to post this to help fellow bros who have got cheated to understand why they have got cheated and for those who are lucky enough not to get cheated please read through to prevent yourselves from getting cheated. Men want sex, it’s a fact that everyone knows well (including the girls), but what women want that’s a question mark still in many men’s head because they think with small head not big one.

But I want to say this, there are still some good girls around, it is just that they are not stupid and men who think that they are stupid or easily bribed to give you free sex or be your permanent sex toy are the stupidest of them all, mostly these are not the girls that will go out to cheat you however. But of course one thing is people change, so your best bet is not to get married if you fear your wife may change for the worst. I have met very nice girls although I am not asking them for anything they treat me to meals and sometime buy me small gifts (which I appreciate very much) and what did I give them (in terms of material stuff - almost nothing or things that are of no cost to me) but in terms of attention I engage them a lot by talking and joking with them and making them laugh.

SG guys are tough; we have been through the military and have taken much shit without whining, crying and such. However we need to put such traits into proper perspective and know how to use them properly. (By the way toughness and determination are 2 things that girls like to make use of to make you their walking ATM). Use those traits to find out more either from this forum or from other sources of information.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

Why guys get cheated by girls? (Part 2)


Reasons and analysis

Anything that involves money is business. Love, relationships and sex are all like business; in fact some girls succeed because they treat it like business. There must be objectives, deadlines and calculation of investment risk. Calculate really carefully before you put out the money, sometimes stinginess gets you more girls than generosity. Be extremely stingy with your money but generous with your time and attention. There is no free lunch but the cost need not be in money.

If you analyse what girls have and what you have then you will make a more informed transaction decision. Basically the girl will want to make you think that only she is the only girl that you have the highest chance to have sex with so as to play with your mind (the game played is called ‘Probability’). In fact there may be other prettier girls that are more willing to f**k you for a lower cost.

Guys mostly have:
Time (time translates to money and is therefore an important asset as well)
Money
Physical assets (house, car etc)

Girls have:
Tits and Pussy (their body, its free)
Companionship (they will claim that their companionship is worth the money, which is bull shit)
Their mouth (never belittle a girl’s talking skills)

Basically what guys have must be earned externally through hard work and it is also something that the girls want (if they can take advantage of you and get it for free then you can expect that they will do just that), but what girls have is something they are born with so basically it is free except that they also need to eat, drink and sleep like guys. So you can say girls are born richer than guys. Basically you can see that guys are not that fortunate and have practically little or no innate assets what they have they must earn. However that doesn’t mean that guys can’t develop innate assets like skills or some guys are too LAZY or obsessed with porn to develop them. Guys have the potential to develop useful and powerful innate assets.

You have to be observant and a good listener, many times the signs of an awaiting cheating scam or intention is right at your face but many guys are just taking in the wrong information (for example looking and her boobs and visualising how they will look like) to recognise them. The girls want you to do that so that they can get you to agree to do the things they want and to put you at a disadvantage. It is like the fine print written on a contract, you seldom notice it while you are distracted by the benefits written in big bold fonts. Girls are deceitful with their smiles and their words; they play to your ego and worm their way deep into your heart (and bank account). It is absolutely alright to get the girl angry and let them go, sex is also a numbers game, the more you socialise around the more your chances increase to get sex.

However what most guys don’t know or are just too plain lazy to find out is that they can also develop skills which are innate and can’t be cheat or taken away.

It is not the biological need (for sex), it is the lack of self control, and if you are impatient you are letting the girl control your mind. Hunters have to be patient when hunting a prey; it is a true and known fact. In fact sometimes you can say that the girl did not cheat you, YOU allowed yourself to be cheated (but sometimes it is an obvious outright cheating scam) due to your impatience and your thinking that money can buy everything (Big Mistake).

Some guys get cheated due to the emotion called love. Actually all that I have written above have to do with emotions (impatience, pride, anger, jealousy and lust) and they have to do with guys going out with the intention of getting a commercial bonk with someone they fancy just to check out her body. But if a guy is really looking for love and companionship (pls subject the girl to lots of tests) as such guys are the most vulnerable of all. This article is not for the good loyal guys out there who are going for true love (though it may be useful and it doesn’t hurt to have additional information), these are for guys who are operating in the dangerous ‘hot’ zones which are places filled with girls who may be manipulative and deceitful. KTVs, FLs along Geylang and other places filled with sluts who have no qualms about using their bodies to get what they want.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

Why guys get cheated by girls? (Part 3)


Preventive Measures

Principles

There are a few principles which I go by and they are listed below. They are not in order of importance, all are important. You will need to recognise which one applys most to the given situation.


1) Treat all relationships as business. Money = Business.

Reason: It involves money, if there is no profit in the investment don’t do it and the profit happens now not at some other time in the future. Profits are realised immediately (eg. If you buy a property you realise profit immediately when you upgrade it or just by waiting for time to pass). Profits must be in cold hard cash or warm moist and tight pussy.


2) Patience

Reason: do not let your small head control you, go PCC or the legal houses to release b4 u meet a girl, it is one of the best defence around if used properly, too much patience however is a waste of time, u must know when to dump the girl (if she delays too long).



3) Safeguarding your money and assets like a ferocious beast

Reason: It is the only thing you can count on, your bros may help you but they are of little help sometimes. Not all bros are rich enough to help you always. It is ok to reject a girl outright if she starts to request high value items. Ever remembered a time when a girl rejects you outright when you ask for sex?



4) Build up the skills that will get you the kills (PM me if you wish to have a list of useful skills or reading materials)

Reason: Skills are innate and they will follow you to the grave, sometimes it is even better than money and they give you profits in terms of money and sex. Skills are your weapons and ammo. Best thing about them is that they are unlimited.


5) Be someone that takes in and analyse the right kind of info

Reason: This has to do with skills above, but it is really important because the girls are always doing it and you have to beat them at it.


6) It is absolutely alright to reject girls.

Reason: Be a person that knows how to reject even the most pitiful of girls because this is business as it involves money. Rejection is also one of the ways to find out the girl’s true intention. Just tell the girl if she is desperate enough sell her body. You should feel proud that you have rejected a girl’s request (if it starts to get suspicious and overboard). Just because you are a guy does not mean you must solve a girl’s problems.


7) Be totally distrustful when it comes to money,

Reason: Assume that even the most innocent-looking and cutest girls are out to cheat your money (this is what girls do this as well, they assume all guys are out to bonk them only). Money is your most important resource.


8) Fortitude

Reason: have the patience and discipline to control yourself and learn more skills, it will get you very far.


9) Never impress girls with money

Reason: It is as good as telling robbers that you have money. Buying things for girls will never work to win their hearts or bodies.


10) Learn to use your money like a carrot

Reason: It is the same concept that girls use their bodies like a carrot to get you to part with your money. Put it in little by little just like a girl shows u her body (or provides services) little by little.


11) Know your limits and the limits of the girl

Reason: Know that there are some girls that will NEVER have sex with you even if you give up your life and your entire fortune.


12) Girls are illusionists

Reason: Do not look at the make up on her face, imagine her face without the make up (she is not that pretty anymore), her height without high heels (not so tall and slim?) and her face without color (very plain?). Usually once you find her not so pretty you will not get so turned on. Looking up close may also help as it helps you spot flaws and make you less horny.


13) Make her commit something first

Reason: Make her commit something (the bigger the value the better) first and be the last to invest or in fact don’t be the first to give in anything except your time, attention and presence. Your presence and attention is worth more than a million dollars. HOLD ON to your money at all costs until she gives you something of equal value (if she wants your money she must commit something and earn it). I make this my stand every time I go out with girls but mostly through hints. Let’s face it, guys are not the only ones who are good in business, there are some girls who are just as practical if they think ‘this guy is going to take up a lot of investment’ they may just leave straight away (and that reveals their true intent and saved your bank account).


In negotiations the one who gives in first loses, most guys think they can buy a girl with money and the girl know otherwise, she will use her body as a carrot to get your money but she already knows that she will not have sex with you. That’s how girls manipulate men. (2 ways : finding ways to know your true intent n looking pretty). In fact some girls could have lost the negotiation by stating their intention very early on; this statement alone tells it all. See below example of a situation.

Example situation:
You and her go on a date and are shopping around a clothes shop (expensive one) she starts trying on clothes asking you if she looks pretty (of course you will say yes and get turned on by the sexiness of it and your mind will start imagining her on bed moaning) then she may drop you hints that she wants the dress or whatever or she may say ‘can you buy me this dress?’. This statement is the intention, it is the start of the manipulation, in fact the moment you hear such things tell her only one answer NO. If she storms out or shows a black face or start to ignore you, you have flushed out their intention and its time to move on to a new target that may be more worth your time and efforts.

Explanation for Example above
You may buy the dress for her but that does not mean she will give you sex. You can tell her ‘lets go to a hotel first and bonk before I buy you this present’.

In chasing girls, satisfy your urges first (either go GL or PCC) so that it will not blind you when you are trying to get her to bed. That’s what prostitutes are for, I find prostitutes (legal ones, I am not sure about the illegal ones) more honest than some girls out there at least they tell you honestly that if you pay them a certain amount of money they will do certain services for you.

Girls need to be engaged for sometime, lets recognise this fact and you must also learn how to identify when to give up, acknowledge the fact that there will be some girls that will not have sex with you at all costs (cos they feel that their bodies are pure and priceless which to me is bull shit because when you see what the hell eat always you will know, all the junk food and alcohol). Some of them even have a smelly vagina filled with fungi and bacteria (in fact legal prostitutes are cleaner).

Remember your first aim is to flush out their intentions. The below ‘Acid test’ is one of the ways but you can be creative and devise more. In case anyone does not know what is ‘Acid Test’, it is a ‘rigorous test or appraisal of the quality or worth of something’.

Acid test:
go out with a girl but find places where u can get her to pay herself and is cheap, tat is if you buy food, go buy individually not one person go buy and pay for all. If she is only interested in your money she knws that you are not an easy target, it will be all the better for you if she suddenly stop talking to u or contacting you or answering your call / sms.

This however needs to be tailored to different situations especially if you are the older guy with a younger girl (the intention is clear). However if you can afford more then no harm giving her a treat (remember to be moderate) to see how she reacts. Remember the sign is she is asking for more and more things (meals, clothes, bags, shoes, cosmetics) that are getting more and more expensive. Analyse the trends and set a cap on how much you are willing to give her (make sure it is low). If this happens before you screw her, DUMP immediately. IF it happens after you screw her then it is your judgement how much you think sex with her is worth. Personally to me, the girl is worth less than SGD 150.

Girls know how to manipulate men’s tenacity (while it is a good trait, it can ruin you in certain situations), they keep you thinking that they will someday give u sex if you keep buying them things. (they play on your mind by giving you a maybe situation while they themselves dun trust the word ‘maybe’, they want something cold hard solid and material)

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

Why guys get cheated by girls? (Part 4)

Conclusion

Principle to never get cheated is: SAFEGUARD YOUR MONEY LIKE IT IS YOUR LIFE, ALWAYS DUMP THE GIRL BECAUSE MONEY CAN BUY YOU SEX BUT GIRLS GIVE YOU NOTHING (other than trouble).

Make it troublesome for girls to access your money (it is your precious asset therefore you must guard it well). In fact this is what the girls are doing with their precious asset as well (their body), they make it troublesome and unprofitable for you to get it.

Always remember the girl in front of you is never the only girl in the world and not the prettiest in the world. If you are only after her for sex dump her when it gets too expensive or if she start to demand too much. However if you do have FREQUENT sex it is ok to put in some investment little by little like a good after-sex meal or some small gifts (preferably less than a hundred, it sounds cheap I know) bit by bit.

Be careful the above information can also be used against you, don’t think that once a girl starts to give you a steady stream of sex you have already won her over, the battle is not over until the day you die having free sex with her. Don’t be surprised if the girls use sex as a negotiation tool or a carrot. Once the cost of fucking them keeps increasing, watch out and GET OUT. They will start to demand more higher value items, not just clothes and bags but sometimes they may ask you to borrow a lump sum of money by giving all kinds of reason like ‘my so and so is sick and I need money for hospital bills if you don’t give me I will not be around to have sex with you because I need to find ways to get money’. Once you hear this HOLD ON to your money and tell her to GET OUT, treat the girl as expendable and move on because the consequences if you give is that she will find an excuse to tell you that she need to go back (if PRC or foreign girl) to visit and she may just disappear with your money.

Pls also note that this info may also be used by girls to devise their scheme against you, it is here to make it harder for them to cheat you but it is not full proof, girls are also humans, if they are stupid then humans are all humans stupid because your mom gave birth to you. It is important to have smart girls around to act as a benchmark for guys to outsmart. If girls are smart, guys have to be smarter, if girls are fierce guys have to be fiercer.


Afterword
End of the day, not all girls are bad but you still have to protect yourself against those greedy manipulative deceitful bitches. I am sure there are many females that will support you in your life (your mother, sisters or even aunties and cousins), just don’t get cheated by some young bitch that thinks she is the queen of the world and all men are her slaves and toys.

End of guide

I hope the above helps and will supply information to other bros in addition to all the information in this forum.

[cablesnwires]

Very informative indeed. One note, this guide would be more useful to the ones who are not being KC-ed. This group of people read it objectively. I'm not too sure if the guide is that useful to those who are in the advance stages of being KC-ed, or had already been KC-ed.

For this group, the reason (or excuse) that they have is and you can hear them say it: "My girl is different, she is not like that!"

Well, I am interested in your innate skills. Perhaps you can share it here as well?

Once again, thanks for your time in writing this. :)

[simple2kee]

TS, thank u. agreed with cablesnwires tht it is v informative indeed.
im here to learn too.

[Satan 666]

You should patent your article. This is an eye-opener & a very well parallel analysis.

You've obviously experienced all kinds of experiences and learnt helluva lot along the way.

This applies to every man-woman relationship at every level.

*No Woman, No Cry

[ventu22]

Thank you bro GL-Roamer.. this is indeed very informative and useful. For all the bro who are in advanced stage of kc-ed and having the mentality that "my girl is not like that"... people change... put a simple gal in this environment and it only take a month or 2 before you see a complete "make-over". The outcome is extremely shocking and unbelievable.. trust me, I have been through the pain. In general SG men are just too soft and nice.. that the reason why so bro have suffered. Open your eyes, open your ears.. but keep the heart shut. My conclusion is.. if you want to play this game, be a bastard..

[jon2000sg]

Bro GL-Roamer must be a senior cheongster joined SBF recently
or may have another alternate nick for posting purpose.

Well done! This is to protection newbies !
One note, this guide would be more useful to the ones who are not being KC-ed. This group of people read it objectively. I'm not too sure if the guide is that useful to those who are in the advance stages of being KC-ed, or had already been KC-ed.

For this group, the reason (or excuse) that they have is and you can hear them say it: "My girl is different, she is not like that!"

I was a KC victim and currently still cheonging !!!
I had went all the way to see a few MMs in mainland,
most MMs have the intention to marry a Singaporean
for the international passport. Currently one whom I
knew for 6 years still toying the idea of marrying me.
Another whom I knew in Macau also wants me to be
with her.

All bros must be aware of the perils of PRC MMs !!!


Well, I am interested in your innate skills. Perhaps you can share it here as well?Hope TS can share with us the innate skills.

[Solar79]

Golden Words of wisdoms

[markkeef]

think TS has really made a good case.

maybe you can flesh out (pun intended) your points with some personal experiences.

cos I noticed it is written in an objective and detached voice, which is good in itself.

but personal stories can move an audience more easily, whether succcess or failure ones, and it stays with them, cos people remember not just with their minds but also their hearts.

[NewandLost]

well done braddah. should be posted at KTV entrance. braddahs come here to post vents. its a sign of recovery. the best protection is abstinence not from sex but from these girls. prc girl like to test. i recall first purchase on my account was feminine napkins. small thing and really how could one say no or pay me back. then the escalation into consumer electronics, rent, etc. some of it was necessary but still when it starts getting into a car and an apartment and you dont know where she is sometimes or she not answer the mobile that you buy and pay service on, enough is enough.

[NewandLost]

Also i think when we braddahs still hanging out on this board in a way its a sign she still got to you. have to post on sammyboy to recover or vent. sort of like f this shid, get off this board too and far away from the trip into hell.

[Panamera]

Bro TS, Thank you for an informative guide :D

[HCKing]

9) Never impress girls with money

well i have seen tons of guys doing that, and the end result is......u guessed it.:D

[K9696]

9) Never impress girls with money

well i have seen tons of guys doing that, and the end result is......u guessed it.:D

1. WE always thinking monies can buy LOVE, so end up using tons of monies
to shower her needs.

2. WE are too soft-hearted:o

[GL-Roamer]

Thank you to all the bros here for the comments and for those who upped me thanks a million, I really appreciate it. As usual this is my humble opinion. I just want to make this as informative as possible for bros who are truly interested. Hopefully their lives get better as well.

One note, this guide would be more useful to the ones who are not being KC-ed. This group of people read it objectively. I'm not too sure if the guide is that useful to those who are in the advance stages of being KC-ed, or had already been KC-ed.

For this group, the reason (or excuse) that they have is and you can hear them say it: "My girl is different, she is not like that!"

I definitely agree that those who have been KC-ed or are in the advanced stage of the KC disease are perhaps unable to read this objectively. Sometimes they do not even listen to their best friends because the girls have already wormed their way into their hearts (the ‘I am in love’ syndrome).

I must admit, I have my limitations as well therefore the above guide may not be able to serve as a solution (to KC disease) but it will definitely reinforce certain good practices that keep bros safe from greedy manipulative girls (especially the younger bros and those who have yet to start out).

Coming up next are the skills that everyone is waiting for. :)

[GL-Roamer]

Skills that get you the Kills (Part 1)
(This is just a catchy phrase, pls use it for your protection nt for vengeance)

Please read the below for what I find as useful skills (in life as well as protecting yourself or getting good safe bonks) some bros may feel that this aren’t skills at all but I term them as skills according to the definition below.

Merriam-Webster online dictionary’s definition of skills: The ability to use one’s knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance.

The keywords are ‘Knowledge’ and ‘Performance’.

If you are expecting anything unusual akin to a kung fu secret technique that everyone does not know of, I am sorry to disappoint you. These are all very commonly known yet are a rarely acknowledged part of relationships. I just want to emphasise them so that they jump from background to foreground and get noticed.

Everyone to a certain extent have in themselves some of the below skills and I don’t claim to have mastered all the below skills (which in my opinion I feel are the most important). The best thing is that these can be applied to daily life to make you a more successful person (have more $ and u can have more bonks) in my opinion and most of them are either interlinked or act as a foundation for others. I believe that you can probably see the relationship among the listed items below as these are very commonly heard of but seldom practiced but are intricately related. To find out more please read up on the topics as there are tons to talk about these skills but I will make it short by giving a brief combo of explanation and summary. By the way, girls beat guys with regards to the skills below whether they know it or not but this is my observation, that’s why in order to get them you will need to be BETTER than them.

Why skills are needed?

Lets face it whenever guys approach a girl (or in fact anyone) they will need to use their mouths and talk, so what I have listed below have in 1 way or another a relationship with talking that gets you more results (whether it’s a bonk or a date). But talking that uses only your mouth is just a 1 way thing (like giving a speech) it does not bring you anything. Talking that involves your brain, eyes and ears are much more productive because it is no longer just mere talking it has now evolved into an ENGAGEMENT of the mind between both parties. This is why Casanova is able to bonk so many girls from rich ladies to poor maids and at a lower cost (or practically none) and they give it to him willingly (yes they crave it). While the rich guys of his time can only be satisfied with bonking fewer girls (lousier quality) that are only out for their money. Therefore in my opinion your talk must be backed by the skills below to make it effective.


Pls feel free to post whatever skills that you bros think is important that perhaps I have missed out or have not come across before because I would like to know as well.

1) Reading people’s words (Communication)
Communication is 2-ways but is the guy really making it 2 ways or is he taking the girl’s words and warping it to inflate his ego (unconsciously). For example IF a girl say ‘wow u must be rich or else how do you afford such a nice watch’, does the guy think ‘YES!!! I have impressed this girl (ego bloated a bit) and she likes me (ego bloated again)’ OR does he think ‘what is making her ask this question?’ Tone of voice, LISTENING and subtle questioning techniques are important here, in other words reading behind the words. Girls would have mastered communication by 12 yrs old because they practice is everyday by talking and gossiping and also because they value social ties with other girls. Listening is extremely important here. From what I observe guys seldom listen (personal experience, when I talk to guys they sometimes drift of to dream world while reply ‘ok’ or ‘ya’‘ ya’ I can obviously see that their eyes are defocused or focused on other things). Ability to analyse and access the verbal information prevents deception and increases your chances of a bonk coz you will know when to strike based on verbal cues.


2) Understanding Psychology (both sexes)
Many people ‘think’ they know how they think and what makes them tick but the sad fact is many of them are in their dream world. Otherwise why are there so many unhappy people in this world and why are there so many depression cases? It is good to really sit down and think out what makes you tick and what makes a girl tick. Reading about guy and girl psychology will strengthen your weaknesses. This helps in the overall aspect of your defence against deception. Knowing how a girls tick gets you the girl.

3) Reading Body language
I guess everyone here knows that the body tells more than the mouth. If you have felt that someone was not sincere in helping you (although the person says ok with a smile) then you have probably seen an example of this. Your body language is also important as it can help deter potential scams, some girls (whose intention is to cheat) may think twice if your body language exhibits confidence in exposing their ploy. This is one thing that girls are good at this as well. Guys falter here because they focus on the wrong parts (for example breasts / cleavage) or they are in their dream world while engaging the girl and the girl knows it, she can clearly see where your eyes go and she knows you have been nabbed. Learn to use your ears and eyes at the correct places and you will find that you are able to tell when the girl is more receptive of your suggestion to bonk.

4) Lie detection
This is not a James Bond movie or some interrogation room scene. But one must get a feel of how a lie works in order to recognise it. For this subtle questioning techniques and observation of body language is important. However if you ASSUME that everything a girl says is a lie (except when she says she is not going to have sex with you) you are probably on the safer side. Since lies are the actual tools that manipulative girls use it is safer to know how and why it works than not. You will also know how to cover up your lies and make it the truth for them.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

Skills that get you the Kills (Part 2)

5) Negotiation
This one has to do with getting what you want. It is the same as why some people get a YES for a request and some people get a NO for the same request. Girls are always expecting that guys will negotiate with them (believe me they have an arsenal of counter attacks) whenever there is a request (from either side) but unfortunately many guys have already been too blinded (by imagined love) and so they give in to every request without knowing that it is possible to reduce the cost. And yes TANTRUMS are a negotiating tool, as they instil fear in the guys that the girl may not bonk with them if they are angry. This skill also has to do with dealing with threats either financial or emotional. This one gets you the ‘OK lets go bonk’ reply from the girl.

6) Emotional Control (EQ)
I think this is very important because emotions will get u into the heat of things in no time. I will break this into 3 parts.

6.1 - Handling situations
If you think back, have you ever scolded someone just because you think tat person said something that you think is offensive? But the fact is ‘does the other person knows it is offensive to you?’ Another part is, are you able to go on in the face of difficulty. Many people will think that they are tough (they certainly are) but the catch is ‘they are only tough in certain situations where they FEEL (no solid evidence) they are well prepared enough to handle it’. Suppose a girl say ‘hey your dick is small I have seen bigger ones’ and laughs hysterically, are you going to be offended? Or are you going to say ‘even with this small dick I can give you a hell of a time, wana try?’. Managing your emotions and your REACTION to other people’s emotions are important here. A girl throws a tantrum, how are you going to react? OR ‘WHAT’ is the most productive reaction you can give her to cushion any negative situation that might arise. There are obviously many uses in this aspect. Can be used to get in and out of a relationship.

6.2 - Overcoming difficulties
Another aspect of this is ‘how fast can you get over a setback?’ are you able to move on in 1 or 2 days time or do you stay there and rot? This requires a lot of emotional toughness eg: FORTITUDE (there have been cases of ‘tough’ guys being reduced to a baby when they meet with a severe setback). Are you able to suck it up n keep moving?

6.3 - Emotional Control (especially in the process of bonking)
Lastly when guys are in the process of bonking they lose their minds and their emotions take over and they may reveal some secrets that they usually don’t share like the type of girl that they like and such. Girls when they hear all these (they are usually wide awake during sex, despite all the moaning), when will silently tweak their behaviour or dressing to your fantasy and wall you inside your fantasy so that you can’t tell whats going on outside your dream world. This is also important in after-sex talks, when you are all hugging and feeling on top of the world, you may let slip some stuff that is probably best kept as secret, you will be surprised how much a girl can dig out from you from the after-sex talks.

7) Seduction
I would like to stress that finding out and understanding about seduction is not for using it as a vengeance tool or to get free sex (cheaper sex maybe). But to know which part of seduction will weaken your defences and how can you avoid that. The girls will definitely have to know some or more about this topic (believe me they really work hard at finding out by reading or talking to friends) if they want to get guys and the reason why guys lose out is because many are not well informed on this topic. One obvious example of this is that every girl knows that her breasts (good looking ones) make guys horny but guys only know how to react to the sight of breasts and not know the concept behind it. Thus girls have understood the visual concept of seduction and they apply it by getting sexier clothes, push-up bras and using cosmetics. Definitely mastering that skill and applying it in the right ways will bring you a long way out and into many girls’ pussies.

8) Humility
Guys are not GOD so please learn to be humble. This is a skill because it needs time and patience to find out information (on how to control egos) and reflect. Everyone knows this fact but not many know how to control their egos. I never dare say I know everything so I tend to stay on the safer side of things. I cheong but I restrict myself to the legal houses only, pay, screw and get out. Lust and wallet are satisfied, meeting both bodily and financial goals. I stay away from KTVs, HCs, TNs and FLs (knowing that these can be troublesome).


FINALLY this last one is something some people might find a bit amusing or even ridiculous, but I recommend reading about it. Yes please go ahead and have a good laugh.:D

9) HOW DO COSMETICS WORK?
Knowing this is as good as knowing how a girl prepares to deceive you (the behind the scenes preparation) and how she creates the illusion of having the features that you like. Big sparkling eyes, full lips, long flowing hair or cute face etc. It is also part of understanding the visual aspect of seduction.


Conclusion
There are other complimentary skills as well but I will not list them here as they are of lesser importance. I certainly hope that the above information will be of help and will improve the lives of all the bros here. Knowledge resources are easily available nowadays; the internet, libraries, book stores and forums so reading up more is definitely much easier, just an hour a day will give you much info.

Good luck and be safe.

[ilovelife.now]

Bro you are perfect!
Golden words of wisdom you have shared herewith.. must be included in newbies section also. :)

Let me up u once I get more points.

[jon2000sg]

9) HOW DO COSMETICS WORK?
Knowing this is as good as knowing how a girl prepares to deceive you (the behind the scenes preparation) and how she creates the illusion of having the features that you like. Big sparkling eyes, full lips, long flowing hair or cute face etc. It is also part of understanding the visual aspect of seduction.
this is very true, I know one mei mei whom still in contact currently.
the first time I bonk her, I can give her a 8.5/10 on her looks.

this MM has been asking me to marry her and til now she is still toying the idea of marriage to get the Singapore International Passport.

there was once when she remove her make up for breakfast -OMG ???!!!
looks - 6/10 !!! WTF ??? I am blinded ? I see a ghost !

Cosmetics can be very very deceiving.

[simple2kee]

TS, im impressed..... by ur writing skill. will ur writing Skill that get me the Kills? salute!
will up u soon.

[NewandLost]

Braddash, I beleive when you are Kced you actually forget your worth in the dating market and mating pool. These gals should be happy to have you (educated SG guy with good job and background etc.) yet you get in a situation of twisted value and do all these things for her only to be fooled and not realize it until its over.

[GL-Roamer]

maybe you can flesh out (pun intended) your points with some personal experiences.

cos I noticed it is written in an objective and detached voice, which is good in itself.

but personal stories can move an audience more easily, whether succcess or failure ones, and it stays with them, cos people remember not just with their minds but also their hearts.

Hi Bro Markkeef

I definitely agree with you that personal stories can move the audience more easily. I was trying to think back of an example of a KC situation but sad to say (for purposes of teaching) I have never been KC-ed before neither been in a situation where a KC attack is nearby. So I hope the bros here will forgive me if there is a lack of personal stories.

This is because I follow the above principles strictly and limit myself to the legal houses only. In fact if any bros here have personal stories to share, pls feel free to share so that other bros can see the relationship between what I have written and what has happened and hopefully learn much from it.

Thank you
GL-Roamer

[GL-Roamer]

In case if any bros are wondering how come I can write this guide and not have any personal stories to tell. Well I must say I have read enough of disheartening stories from newspapers and this forum and I am also more careful person by nature :D so after reading all those stories I went on to do heavy research and reading from various sources (having a few bonks in between :p) on this topic.

Which is the reason why I can post this guide today. Which I hope all bros who have read it will share with their bros or introduce them to read it (especially newbies to the commercial sex world and youngsters who are starting to have girlfriends).

Thank you

GL-Roamer

[jon2000sg]

I was KC many times and I liked to share my stories to bros
esp. newbies.

Let me recall and sit down to write it on MS Word before posting them.

[tuxedosam]

whoa...this thread sure is an interesting read. although i may not necessarily agree with ALL of the TS's assumptions and beliefs, it's still an interesting and enlightening treatise. hahaha, certainly something entertaining in a different sorta way to the threads about the hidden cultural meaning of the rep system or those within which a mass-zap raiding party is being assembled...or the de rigeur sob stories one might encounter in this section...all of which are, dun get me wrong, delightfully compelling in their own way.

i guess it's not particularly relevant to me as i dun really fall into the target group, which the good bro defined with a series of caveats. for me, the 'relationship' one shares with a commercial sex worker ends when the appointment in question ends. i dun see why there is a need to extend it beyond that point (even if RTFs are concerned). if i do want a relationship, i'd simply go somewhere else. makes common cultural and social sense to me, no? and even if i wanna look for a short- to mid-term no-frills, less-strings-attached sorta FB, i personally think the last place to start hunting one down is through the realm of commercial sex. as for making GFs or pseudo-GFs outta whores, the thought has never once ever crossed my mind. for one, i've yet to come across a single prostitute whom i think actually share a similar enough communicative wavelength with myself. and i mean thais, vietnamese, pinoys, russians, and of course, those PRC nationals, as well as malaysians or even 'high-class' locals. aiyoh, can't even chitchat normally, how to have a relationship leh? anyhow, i dun really get all that being a 'player' stuff...engaging in the thrill of the 'chase', the projection of a sense of 'power' and all those silly mind games etc. etc. guess that's why i never really comprehended the KTV scene, for example...a bit pointless and full of sidetracking if the aim is simply sex, no? never mind, i dun think i will ever quite understand. but to each, his (or her) own la. i dun need a whore to massage my ego. and i dun see the need to play 'games' or indulge in mindfucking just to land a discount or free fuck (at least with someone i have no interest with otherwise), or in order to be served with faked affection and exaggerated longing. it's all just a bloody show, right? why would anyone put up with the baggage, even if it's only a temporary arrangement? but i know there's a market for such a thing. and hence the sorta typical discourse generated in this section of SBF. hahaha, i know an ex-samster, for example, who has since graduated to something 'bigger'. he doesn't need to pay for sex anymore because now he just talks them up (he targets mainly those borderline flesh trade workers working in those dodgy singer-dancer sorta bar-type places) and they somehow land in his lap. he's a good lad and a great buddy and he has tried to share with me his side of the story, even if i dun quite get the entire psychology of it. in a sense, i wish i can be kinda more like him too, but i just can't be bothered la. life is complicated enough for me...why add to it for three minutes of so-called 'fun'? i guess some things are not for everyone. however, it all seems to work for him and that's good enough. he's a consummate player though. he never allows himself to be bewitched emotionally. and while i do know that he has ended up hurting quite a few of these sluts, most of them do bounce back almost immediately. speaks volumes, eh?

by the way, anyone knows what the exact origins of the term 'KC' are? i'm not very sure what it stands for though the meaning of the term is surmised easily and directly enough. is this a term unique to SBF? i've never encountered it anywhere else in cyberspace or real life. haha, just wondering...sorry for being so ignorant.

anyway, on a more generalised ground, i think the TS's observations are also relevant for a lot of relationships that may not necessarily have anything to do with harlots and tarts. not that i'm really well-acquainted personally with relationships built on those sorta dynamics...but they exist nonetheless and are in fact very common. just open your eyes. look at all those trophy wives for starters. hmph, while i may not have been cheated or manipulated by a courtesan of any shade or hue, i have indeed had my heart thoroughly broken and my life casually trampled on by a woman for whom the words mendacious, manipulative, cruel, fickle, untruthful and a whole ugly lot more seem to have been conceived precisely for. ahhhhhh, the things we do in the name of love, or well, what we take to be an approximation of 'love', at least. of course the circumstances are wildly different...but while i do not quite understand this fixation with whores, i can definitely identify and commiserate with the aching hearts of bros (and siatahs too? bwahaha).

anyway, thanks and cheers to the TS for sharing. looking forward to more installments.

[longwinter]

I was KC many times and I liked to share my stories to bros
esp. newbies.

Let me recall and sit down to write it on MS Word before posting them.

yea, there is nothing to be ashamed abt it to share....awaiting for ur stories, bro jon..:D

[warbird]

Hi bro GL-Roamer,

Thx for sharing! This is certainly one of the best guides on the subject that I hv read.

[/QUOTE] 12) Girls are illusionists

Reason: Do not look at the make up on her face, imagine her face without the make up (she is not that pretty anymore), her height without high heels (not so tall and slim?) and her face without color (very plain?). Usually once you find her not so pretty you will not get so turned on. Looking up close may also help as it helps you spot flaws and make you less horny.[/QUOTE]

this is very true, I know one mei mei whom still in contact currently.
the first time I bonk her, I can give her a 8.5/10 on her looks.

this MM has been asking me to marry her and til now she is still toying the idea of marriage to get the Singapore International Passport.

there was once when she remove her make up for breakfast -OMG ???!!!
looks - 6/10 !!! WTF ??? I am blinded ? I see a ghost !

Cosmetics can be very very deceiving.

Yes, gers are illusionists, especially those PRC MMs working at KTVs.:eek:

There is a KTV ger who doesn't like to meet me during the day n I know the reason.

When I met her at KTVs or elsewhere at night, she was stunningly beautiful w/ her cleaver makeup, sexy dress n high heels. Her face was smooth, fair n creamy, w/o any visible blemishes. I would rate her a solid 9. Once she reluctantly met me in early afternoon n we headed to a hotel. She only had light makeup n I could see a few small moles on her face n some pimples on the forehead. Her face was darker n somewhat sallow. My rating dropped to 7.5! Certainly lower if no makeup at all. She could sense my slight disappointment n now will not want to see me during the day!

Dun be fooled, bro.

Goodnight!

[jon2000sg]

yea, there is nothing to be ashamed abt it to share....awaiting for ur stories, bro jon..:D

I shall start a thread to post my KC stories with pics included.

[cablesnwires]

bro GL Roamer,

Any more updates? I am camping here for more. :)

[GL-Roamer]

bro GL Roamer,

Any more updates? I am camping here for more. :)


Hi bro cablesnwires and all other bros

Sorry to keep you waiting, I have been busy lately but however I am compiling the next update. Should be able to post in a few days time. Thanks for the enthusiasm.:)

[GL-Roamer]

How to win the engagement of the mind (Part 1)

Introduction
To all the bros who are keenly awaiting this next instalment, I thank you for your patience as I have been busy these few days. Hope you will enjoy what I have written here. As usual this is my opinions and my way of doing things. I only hope that such information will help anyone who may be searching for an answer.

This is the next instalment coming up. I would like to list out the arsenal you have when you are engaging a girl. Most people tend to think that they are either born good talkers that get the woman all the time or a poor talker that gets cheated all the time. But this is not true. Money will not buy you a girl’s heart but attention will get you into the deepest depths of her. Any girl that insists that they love only money and their beauty, know that they are lying to themselves as well. The reason is because deep within them, they feel insecure with an intangible thing like love and choose to cling on to something material like money (you can say the same thing for some guys as well). All material things will fade away including looks. The only way you can find out if a girl really loves you is that she is willing to die for you, nothing lesser than that.

Therefore the engagement of the mind can only be won through patience, attention and polishing up of your communication skills.

In fact all the skills I have listed above will get guys pretty prepared for any engagement with girls and to help guys not get cheated. Most of the time, negotiation tactics will work here. But what I would like to talk about here is an aspect of negotiation I term as ‘Positioning’. This would mean where you start off at the beginning of the engagement / negotiation. As everyone knows, in war, physical positions can determine a victory or defeat. Where you start off is a very important phase, if you start off on a low ground and the enemy is on the high ground then you will know what the usual results are. This aspect is linked to my guide above and serves to enhance the information above.

Finally I would like to say again: Anything that involves money is business and there must be objectives, deadlines and calculation of investment risk.


Analysis of negotiation positions


What are positions?

They are basically the physical, mental and emotional environment when you start the engagement and all are interlinked.


Physical Position

The physical place where you engage the girl, it could be a legal house or a KTV or a pub or just on the streets. This is basically the environment and the environment has a huge psychological impact because it feeds information into your brain. Take the streets for example, while you are negotiating with an FL, both you and her can see other FLs around looking for business so it induces much more confidence in you that if this one does not succeed you can jump to the next one and the FL knows that if she wants the business she better set her standards lower (unless she is the only most prettiest one on that street).

In my opinion enclosed areas with alcohol are the worst (for using your brain). Alcohol impairs your judgement and enclosed areas leave your senses with fewer choices to make while negotiating. It has a great psychological impact because the world has suddenly shrunk making the girl in front of you the sole source of sex (when people see only 1 source they unconsciously think that the resource is very limited and will pay a higher price for it).

It also has to do with your body mostly in the form of erections. Your physical urges can lead you to make hasty decision often agreeing to an inflated price to satisfy the urges then regretting it later.

Those who watch soccer will know the difference between home game and away game. The away team is usually at a disadvantage.


Mental Position

This one has a lot to do with the amount of mental bullets you bring to help you alive. It is the skills and experiences that you have in your head. I am sure that a bro who have learnt his lesson after being burnt will be more capable of handling certain situations than newbies when going back to the same type of place. It also has to do with how observant you are and how well you are able to use your mouth and your brain in unison.

Confidence is also another part of mental position. Back to the football example, home teams usually feel more confident on their home turf with thousands of their fans screaming at them and away team tend to feel at least a little intimidated (whether consciously or unconsciously). Confidence is an extra mental booster to your mental performance. But I would like to stress that OVER confidence is also a great killer of good performance.

Good mental positioning is the only way that you are going to get out of there with your bank account intact.


Emotional Position

This is more of how are you feeling when you are engaging the girl. Bad positions include feeling lonely or angry and the expectation that the girl to fix your emotional problems for you. This is the biggest weakness of all guys, so be sure to lock your emotions in a deepest most secured underground bunker and if possible deploy an entire army to protect it. If you can LEAVE YOUR EMOTIONS AT HOME, pls do it. Once this is exposed the guy is a goner.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

How to win the engagement of the mind (Part 2)

Analysis of the Positions (Both sides)

Starting position of the usual uninformed guy:

Physical
In an aroused state (with erection and roaming eyes and sometimes hands)
Sometimes partially intoxicated
Usually in the girl’s home ground eg, KTV, Streets or pubs.

Mental
Sex (influenced by the physical urges), all kinds of sexy / naked images of the girl in front of the guy will come out.
Mental state sometimes influenced by alcohol (can’t think properly)

Emotional
A need to boost self esteem, find love, fill up emptiness or cure loneliness. Basically there is an emotional need that guys ‘think’ the girl can fulfil and thus they go all out to seek them.


As you can see, the intentions are very clearly seen and the guys are very vulnerable. The fact that you go to places with girls shows that you are already starting from 1 of the above positions and the girls know that very clearly. Example: A guy walks into a brothel, what do you think his intention is? Everyone can tell.



The girls will typical start off from either 1 of these positions or more. You can definitely tell that their preparations are much more in detail.

Physical

Make up
They will do their illusionist tricks again. Especially in dim or flashing lights they may even look better because the darkness hides certain parts of their faces and they definitely hope that you will use your imagination to fill the gap (which most guys will do unconsciously, their perceived image of the girl from memories or imagination will help to form a pretty picture in your head because psychologically speaking no one wants to date someone who is ugly and if you are dating someone, that person must be pretty - EGO) This is a fatal flaw which many people don’t really realise until after much reflection.

Dress up
Girls wear those sexy clothes that reveal their cleavage enhanced by their bras (mostly when guys strip their girls nowadays they will be disappointed by their bust size and shape). This will distort your image of her to be more favourable towards her.

Environments where there may be alcohol
If the girls starts off here you may be at a disadvantage because if you are intoxicated you make bad judgements and I am sure the girls will love to make you drunk (you may end up paying for their drinks without even screwing them). Unless you are a very good drinker, I would suggest avoiding such places. By the way alcohol is expensive so why spend extra when you can have a bonk at cheaper rates. Some girls are such good drinkers (high chance they have no liver left as well) that can drink till you go broke. The best prevention is to avoid such places.


Mental
The girls have already assumed that all the guys going to see them is just for sex and so their mental defences are up. Everything any guy says they will link it to the reason ‘he is doing / saying this because he wants to have sex with me’. The girls have already assumed that guys will not give them any love and are thus not worthy of having sex with (unless somebody psychoed them that sex equals to love then that is a different story, but such girls usually wake up quite fast). The only logic that they use to override their emotions is that they are doing it purely for money that’s why they want to dig at your bank account.

Girls will load in the assumption that all guys are only out for their bodies (which are mostly true) and are thus much more immune to your praises and such.

They are only out for money. This is the mentality that all the girls have.


Emotional
They have already shut off themselves mentally by convincing themselves they are using their bodies for money only. This is the only way they can justify themselves getting touched and having sex with so many men because girls can’t separate sex from emotions so they will have to use logic to make them feel better and justify why are they doing this, if not many of the girls will fall into depression. The girls know that their emotions are their weakest point so they guard it very well. Some girls have also suffered some traumatic incidents before and so their emotional threshold (EQ) is much higher than most guys. This is the girls’ strongest defence.


So from the above you know where most guys stand and where the girls stand. Many guys are in a very lousy position.


To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

How to win the engagement of the mind (Part 3)

Mechanics of emotional attacks used by girls

From their starting positions, the girls will launch their arsenal of emotional attacks. The root and basis of emotional attacks is to BYPASS YOUR LOGIC. Here I will give an analysis and talk about the more common ones.

Tools of the trade

Normal Emotional Attacks
The girls will try to bypass your logic and they will tell you that they are emotionally weak and needs to be protected, they will tell you of their ‘sad’ background. They will tell you how ‘happy’ they are with you. They will tell you that you make a ‘difference’ in their lives. The better actresses will know how much of their emotions to release (either through much practice or unconsciously) to draw your emotions out. When your emotions are drawn out, YOU ARE DEAD.

Sometimes even the normal girl out on the streets use this.

Show them NO pity, NO mercy, NO remorse AND NO regrets because you will receive NONE.

They play around with the emotions of sadness and happiness. These are 2 emotions that guys can’t really use with the girls (unless they are very skilled) because if guys were to use the ‘sadness’ emotion (and succeed) they will see the girls’ faces start to blank out (because you have really struck a raw nerve) or the girl will want to leave immediately (the guy have won the emotional game but still have not satisfied his urge to plunge his dick into her hole) if the guy uses the ‘happiness’ emotion the girl would have already seen through the bluff because they have convinced themselves that there can be NO happiness with this guy who is only there to fuck them.


Acting (best actress of the year)
Many girls like to act pitiful when probed about their background and such. In fact they will willingly tell you their ‘story’ and show you their ‘tears’. Some of these girls can win the Oscar awards. The girls are not really in a bad state if they were they would not even have the time to be sitting beside you acting and telling stories. By the way some girls will even act as if you have hurt them (they may tell you they want to leave immediately and such). Be careful as they are trying to soften your heart and bypass your logic.

Stories (aka Fairy Tales)
As above in acting, stories are part of the big picture they want to paint in your head. Always listen and laugh it off later. Make sure to also tell your buddies all the most ridiculous stories you have heard then you guys can have a good laugh while having a few drinks.

Praise / Pity / Pride / Protectiveness (The 4 Ps of destruction)
They use praises while they themselves are wary of praises (they tend to doubt everything). Girls will inflate the guys’ egos and make the guys feel proud and almighty. This acts on the guy’s pride.

Then they induce a state of pity in you via their stories and acting. This will make the guys feel superior and draw out their protective instincts (which is originally meant to protect his family and friends in prehistoric times). They want the guy to feel that they have someone to protect and thus feels superior and dominating, this links back to ego and pride. After all this the guy will feel like a hero but their bank accounts will be ZERO.

Sadness
Girls like to trigger a feeling of sadness in guys because this emotion is used to get pity from the guy. They will tell you how bad a life they have had and how much they have suffered and that they are waiting for a white knight to rescue them.

Happiness
This one is triggered to make the guys happy. Whether it is by allowing your hands under her clothes or by using praises to make the guy feel good. Happiness is an addictive emotion because your senses send the signals to your brain and your brain forms mental links that equate: This girl = Happiness. Yes it is that simple and the guy gets addicted to her.

Lust
Girls know all guys are full of lust. Girls will withhold sex in order to get what they want once they know the guys are addicted to them. But here is the catch, guys are mostly not addicted to the girls’ bodies but to the girls’ WORDS. Understand this and you will be satisfying your lust always at a cheaper cost (there are so many pussies in the world)

Fear
Once girls have the guys’ heart they will make him fear about losing them and through this the girls would make you pay more and more for their companionship (not sex). Sex will get much more expensive. The girls will know that they have the negotiating power on their side and their demands will start to increase.

Love
They will claim that they love you and that you are ‘special’ to them because you are ‘different’ from the rest of the guys who are only there for sex. When the girl say ‘I love you’ to your face, they are telling the truth because they are say that to their ‘walking ATM’ not to you as a person. They will also say ‘if you love me you must do this for me’ and they will state some outrageous request like buy me that $5000 bag. When girls manage to trigger the love emotion in a guy’s heart, I guess that is the end of the poor guy, it is the ultimate nuclear bomb.

Time Pressure
This is one of the worst because it makes you make hasty illogical decisions. Girls can say they will be going back to their hometown or other nonsense. Basically they give you a time limit to make decisions and will convince you that it is worthwhile that you accede to their request.

Emotional Pressure
Basically many people (as part of a social species) tend not to like making others angry or feel bad (exclude the childish ones and those with no emotional discipline). Girls will make you feel bad by throwing tantrums and saying that you are treating them badly or not treating them properly, some may just burst into tears in public. They strike at this weak point and at the ego. Walking away when this happens seems to be the best.

Emotional Blackmail
The theory of emotional blackmail is this:
If you don’t give me something I will deprive you of something.

If you dissect the theory of emotional blackmail, you will find that:

Part 1:
In order for the blackmail to work, the blackmailer will have to do something to get what the victim needs (the start where the girl tries to draw out your emotions)

Part 2:
In order to be blackmailed the victim must have needed something from the blackmailer (the girl deprive you of the good feelings until they are satisfied)

If you are able to disrupt either Part 1 or Part 2 above then you are safe because both parts need to occur in sequence for emotional blackmail to happen. This can go unrecognized because the girl can do it in a way that seems normal for example withholding sex. They can say they have their period and other nonsense, the fact remains that you did not screw her. And usually it goes on for a long time to hint to you that they want something.

Just think in terms of kidnapping. It is the same concept except this time it is the guy’s emotions that was kidnapped and the guy will have to pay the ransom for his emotions which will be kidnapped over and over again. Why would anyone let someone close to them get kidnapped over and over again and keep paying ransom?

Real Blackmail
This is when the girl has real information about you like where you work, who is your wife and where you stay etc. If such information get into her hands and the girl wants to ruin your life. You are DEAD.

Never give a girl true information about you especially if you are married. But then again if you are really tough enough go to the authorities and report this girl then get her sent back if she is PRC or of other nationalities. But later you will have to clean up the mess with your family and friends. Money can earn back but the trust that your wife, family and friends have in you may never come back again.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

How to win the engagement of the mind (Part 4)

How do you improve your position?

This section will inform you of some methods to improve your ‘position’ so that you will start off with more advantages and be more aware of what is going on.


1. Physical Position (this can be improved before the engagement)

Try not to go with an erection; this is because your urge to fulfil the need immediately will lead you to make hasty decisions. PCC the day before or go to the legal houses to satisfy your intense urge (I assume your sex drive is moderately high to recover from PCCing the day before). Then you can have all the time to play mind games with the girl without anything distracting you. If you manage to get a Fuck buddy then good for you, you can screw her pussy all you want (quench your thirst with her pussy juices as well).

When choosing places try to avoid those with alcohol or go there with a full stomach and drink only a little. Spend more time TALKING not drinking. Remember you are there for the girls not the drinks. Engage the girls, talk about them, know them, ask them questions and allow them to see your interest in their interests. Take this time to gauge the character of the girl and filter out only the best (if you are paying don’t you deserve the best value for your money?). Tell those with bitchy characters to go back and hump the corners of their tables.

If you are good at see through make-up tricks then it is the best. Try to imagine them WITHOUT their make up. Seeing pictures of extreme make-up mistakes (or too much make-up) also helps because it sensitizes your mind to the make-up that the girls use after that you will soon be able to identify which areas they have applied make-up to.


2. Mental Positions (requires a clear thinking big head)

2.1 Know your limits and the limits of the girl

This principle will apply here; know what you can get and what you can’t. Do not try to get something beyond the limits of anybody because the price is too high to pay. An example is this: if you and your girlfriend have a disagreement you may tolerate her screaming and pinching but will you tolerate a knife stab? You must mentally know how much time, money and effort are you willing to put in for a girl. If you do not know then maybe thinking it through before you do anything is the best. Are you willing to spend $5000 a night on drinks, meals and tips without even getting to screw the girl? Think about it: $5000 / 150 = 33 Bonks at the CAT150 legal houses! Enough to make your balls dry up, wither and die. If you find that the girl is not willing to have sex with you at the cost that you are willing to bear then give it up and move on.


2.2 Go there with the intention to BROWSE not to buy

When you enter a shop, depending on your behaviour, the shop owner may be able to gauge whether you have the intention to buy something from his shop (especially specialty shops that sell limited items) or not. For example if you walk in and look around hastily, he will immediately know that you have an urgent need for something (this is a good chance for him to make the sale or even big profit out of you). But if you just stroll in and browse around slowly and then slowly make your way to the exit, the owner will know that you are just browsing (there is no immediate need to satisfy) so even if he approaches you, he may not try anything funny depending on his confidence level. Self discipline and self control are essential here.

If you talk to a WL / girl and find that she may not provide good service or perhaps is trying to rip you off without giving you a good fuck. Be like that shopper that makes his way slowly to the exit. Remember to say ‘bye bye’.


2.3 Render the target useless (in your mind)

The target’s usefulness comes only from being able to fulfil a need (your need for a release or big boobs). If they are of NO USE to you it is much easier to dump them. Lets face it, pussies are pussies, there are only different variations in tightness (you can use lube for moistness) when you cum, it all feels the same. The same goes for boobs, there are many other girls with the same cup size (A,B,C,D).

Why must it be only that one girl that you have approached? Always assume that there will be many others out there that have better qualities than the one in front of you because THERE IS NO ONE BEST GIRL TO FULFIL ALL YOUR DESIRES. Every girl has her good and bad points. Girls will try to hide this fact while worming their way into your heart because its one of the things that will totally FOUL up their plans.

You can always ask them (or yourself quietly in your mind) ‘what makes you so different / special from other girls in terms of satisfying my needs’. Know how you are able to substitute the girl you are engaging and devise ways to do this, and then you will find the pressure off your shoulders. Girls will also do this to you when they find that they are unable to touch your money so feel free to use it back on them.

To make things simple, I will explain it this way.

Guys have a need (sex, as long as it’s a vagina and a pair of tits)

Girls can provide sex

BUT how many girls are there out there providing sex?

You know the answer – COUNTLESS with more coming in from PRC every damn day.

So do you really need only that one girl?


2.4 Switch target (get a substitute)

This is the mental action you take after you mentally ‘render the target useless’. Believe me this is what the girl will do if she finds that you are a hard target but this is what many guys won’t do because they are so convinced that next time they will be able to get the girl. They are so convinced that their money will ‘eventually’ win her over. (Congrats you have become a walking ATM for her). Hope everyone here sees the uncertainty of the word ‘eventually’. My rule is: IF ITS NOT NOW, ITS GOING TO BE NEVER. KNOW WHEN to switch target. Substitutes can take all the power away from anything, use this to your advantage. If you are crafty enough, let her know that other girls will be getting your money not her, use your money to play them against one another and get cheaper prettier sex. From the girl’s point of view, they can gang up on you so be careful.



2.5 Learn to accept some imperfections (this will save you time and money)

ALL the girls out there are imperfect in some way but they will try to make you think that they are the most PERFECTLY suited for your needs. Do not expect face, boobs, pussy, body shape, body size, shower, bbbj, AR, tight and moist pussy and FJ reactions to ALL meet your standards and expectations at 1 go because it is IMPOSSIBLE. No girl has ever scored perfect 10/10 in ALL areas, satisfactory (7/10) in all areas or lacking in 1 or 2 areas is more realistic. So remember ‘THERE IS NO ONE BEST GIRL TO FULFIL ALL YOUR DESIRES’.

2.6 Use time to your advantage

After your meeting with the girl, take time off to think about your encounter. Forget about her in bed or her sweet words. You may find that the hype about her will go down. Start to be picky about the girl’s attributes and compare her with other girls. You may find that the girl is not so hot afterall. However if you find that you cannot stop thinking about her. Then you better not go back to her PERMANENTLY or else you will start from a bad position.

2.7 Negating Time Pressure

Always tell the girl who tries to pressure you into doing things by citing time that she can have ALL the time in the world to go back home, give her lover there a few good screwing sessions and suck his dick for all eternity. Tell her to take her time and when she is done and ready to do business with you then come back and find you but of course you ‘may’ not need her services anymore. In fact some girls who use time pressure are under time pressure themselves by delaying, you are actually pressurizing them.

2.8 Turn the Time Pressure game on the girls

Most girls (esp WLs) who are working are often impatient to get as much money as possible before they get out of here and enjoy their life elsewhere. Make them think ‘why the hell am I wasting my time with this guy?’ The reason is this, most girls do not like their jobs as a prostitute (do you like working at your current job?) because to them it is a job. Just like many guys out there who only work to earn money they are also doing the same thing and they do not really enjoy it.


To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

How to win the engagement of the mind (Part 5)

3. Emotional Position (requires a lot of clear thinking and discipline)

This is the weakest point of ALL guys (in fact for all humans) it is just that the girls manage it better than guys after being exposed in that commercial / casual sex environment for so long. To girls commercial sex is a job not to find a boyfriend, they will switch on the professional worker mentality and their emotions are all closed off. Girls will try to worm their way into your hearts while protecting theirs so this is what you have to do. Worm YOUR way into their hearts while protecting yours and if they can’t take it tell them to fuck off. Some girls will start to feel bad when you start to worm your way into their hearts this is because they may not feel naked when they are not wearing clothes but they will feel ‘naked’ when you start to probe their emotions and they are very sensitive to that feeling. Show them that you have good emotional control especially with money and tell them don’t mess around if they want money they have to earn it physically through hard work.

The reason why girls like to worm their way into your hearts is this:
EMOTIONS CAN TRIGGER IMPULSE SPENDING WHILE LOGIC CANNOT. (That’s why you get all those retailers that have different ways of arranging their goods or renovating their shops in a certain way or designing those seemingly beautiful products. Take a walk around Takashimaya and you will find out). Girls almost always fall into the impulse spending trap that is why they want to make you fall into it as well to fund their spending.

3.1 Learn to reject

Many guys (especially nice guys) do not dare to be hard on a girl’s emotions because they are afraid of ruining the ‘relationship’. There is no relationship other than that of a business transaction. Feel free to get the best deal that your money is worth. You are there for a commercial bonk not to build an eternal friendship. FEEL FREE to ruin as many relationships as you want because there is an absolutely unlimited amount of other girls out there that you can build better relationships with. The girls have no qualms about ruining the relationship if they can’t get anything out of it so why must you be so nice to them.

3.2 Always doubt

Always DOUBT the girls’ stories and actions, always believe them to be liars because this is what the girl’s are doing to fend off any emotional attacks and it has been proven (by the girls) that it is useful, so go ahead and use it. When the girls tell you stories and act in front of you take it as watching a movie, you forget everything after you leave the cinema.

3.3 Always assume that the girls are out for your money only

Same concept as the girl’s assumption that the guys are out for sex only.


3.4 Emotional Blackmail Counter Measures

After they have drawn out your emotions they will then proceed to ‘blackmail’ you. They will play the ‘SCARCITY’ game. Making themselves unavailable so that you will miss their companionship more and will be willing to pay more to get it. They will put fear into the guy’s heart and make him fear losing her. Let me explain something, when a person fears losing someone, they fear about losing the BENEFITS that the person provides not the actual person themselves. So list down the benefits and to look for someone else who can provide you with those benefits or even more.

When such a game starts, go visit other girls in front of her and play that game with her. Don’t be afraid to ruin her feelings because if not she will ruin yours and your bank account.

Conclusion
Reading my guide in my previous posts will help a lot in many of these problems here.

Having a clear head definitely helps in maintaining good emotional control, other things include not going to look for girls on bad days (yes I know some people will say they need to release work stress) and going there with only the intention of enjoying the girl’s company.

I personally believe in rewarding good work attitude like generosity and good attitude because there are honest and hardworking girls (though very few) in the commercial sex scene. The hardworking girls that do their best to give you a good service in bed definitely deserve a little bit more than the average ones. I also absolutely despise those girls who want to get something for nothing. May their pussies rot.

Hope this article is useful to you bros.

End of article

[simple2kee]

bro, welc back! thanks for the update. meanwhile let me digest it slowly. :D

[warbird]

Hi bro GL-Roamer,

Thank u!! Your insightful treatise on "How to win the engagement of the mind" is excellent. You hv given many useful pointers on how to prevent bring KC-ed by these deceitful WLs/FLs/KTV gals.

KTVs r particularly dangerous bcos the environment favours the gals. Patrons who drink a fair amount of alcohol will perceive the gals as more attractive than they really are: Why Ugly Girls Look Good When You Are Drunk.. Scientific Answers. | AfricazMOST (http://www.africazmost.com/why-ugly-girls-look-good-when-you-are-drunk-scientific-answers/)

But alcohol is not really the only factor affecting the drunken perception of beauty. Other factors, according to their research, include:

* How brightly lit the area is
* The observer’s eye-sight quality
* The amount of smoke in the air
* The distance of the observer from the observed

There is even a formula to quantify the total effect.

How about the illusions as a result of cosmetics, makeup, push up bras, sexy n revealing dress, high heels, etc.

Let's see the transformations: 化妆太牛了！大妈都能变成杨贵妃！»¯×±Ì«Å£ÁË£¡´óÂ趼Äܱä³ÉÑî¹óåú£¡_¸ ãЦͼƬ_ÐêÐêÀÖ±¬Ð¦ÓéÀÖ (http://www.xuxule.net/db/tietu/renwugaoxiao/0615335912009.html)

Therefore, I wont be too surprised if a stunningly beautiful KTV gal whom I rate as a perfect 10 turns out to be a 5 or worse when I'm sober n meet her in broad daylight, especially w/o her makeup, high heels, etc. Hahaha.:cool:

Good night!

[GL-Roamer]

Hi Bros

Just an update. I will be coming up with the next installment soon. Hopefully I can finish it soon. To any of the bros who have been patiently waiting, sorry to keep you waiting, I will try to finish it up soon and post it.

On a side note, I saw about 2000+ views on this thread, I just wonder how many are guys, how many are girls who read for fun and how many are girls who are WLs?. :D Just a curiosity, I do not need any replies.

[GL-Roamer]

The Seven Deadly Sins (to get you cheated) (Part 1)

In this article, I relate how the seven deadly sins will get guys into trouble in the cheonging context where guys are likely to meet deceitful WLs (however it can be applied to the normal manipulative girl on the street as well). I certainly hope that this will help supplement any materials that you bros have read and will enhance your knowledge.

As usual this is just my opinion and my way of doing things, I don’t intend to offend anyone.

Introduction
I am not talking about sins in a religious standpoint here but rather in the context of emotions. As you can see, the seven deadly sins are either emotions or have deep links with emotions. The info you see below may perhaps seem repetitive from my previous posts but what I will try to do here is to analyse them from another angle so that when people here reflect on it they will find more meaning in their experiences.

Wisdom is never a mark of age but a mark of deep reflection.

Now for the Seven Deadly Sins

1. Lust
I am not talking about normal desire for sex here. Instead I am referring to a mentality when looking for commercial sex.

Guys loved to be seduced, so when the girls play to their sexual thoughts they get excited, they will want more. Most guys here would have found that the normal commercial bonks get boring, every cunt now feels the same when the guys cum. Girls who get into the rooms with them, strip and have sex with them are now boring.

Therefore now the guys want challenge, they want excitement in getting their bonks now, they want to feel the thrill of the hunt and the girls all know it all too well and they will gladly play to it. Many such guys boast to their friends on how many girls they have hooked and such. Some even loved share the stories of the ‘hunt’. Like soldiers of the old times telling battle stories to each other, comparing acts of bravery and skill. Therefore sometimes the girls do not even need to use their bodies to dupe the guys they just use their words. Tricks like ‘see but no touch’ or ‘touch but no fuck’ will surface here. My take is if you want sex, just to the FLs or legal houses, don’t waste your time.

The result many guys get cheated because their minds have been totally screwed by the girls because they ALLOWED the girls to do so.


2. Gluttony
Here is does not refer to food but in the over indulgence of anything to the extent of having wastage. Guys who over indulge in the praises and the feelings the girls generate in their minds will get cheated in no time. These guys are prime targets for deceitful WLs. Their minds are so flooded with whatever feelings the girls give them that they fail to watch their bank accounts, they fail to observe the objectives they have set, they fail to acknowledge the growing risk and they make all the wrong moves (in fact its like investing in a stock market purely based on emotions). Too much of a good thing is never good.

The actual sin here is the willingness to over indulge in the words of the manipulative girl without questioning.

3. Greed
Having sex with the girls is now no longer enough, the guys want to now OWN the girls and make them their permanent trophies. The girls are also humans and do you think they will let you own them and do anything to them? These foolish guys want to own the body and mind of the girl who make them feel so good because of their fear of losing something that provides them with a benefit (good feelings). They will continually use money to pay and pay (even though the price gets higher and higher all the time) because they think that their bank accounts are bottomless pits or they think that it is the easiest way. It is their OBSESSION with the good feelings the girls provide that will get them into trouble.


4. Sloth (Laziness)
This is laziness to improve themselves. Unwilling to spend time reading and improving themselves, these guys are making themselves easy targets for the manipulative girls. Having good knowledge, better physique, more confidence, good communication skills and good EQ definitely makes negotiations easier and makes you a better person overall. Benefits are so obvious but some guys are too lazy to improve themselves. Thus this has more to do with the guys themselves rather than the girls.

5. Wrath (Anger)
When anger gets into anybody’s head, it makes them easy to manipulate because of the rash decisions they make. This includes both guys and girls. Girls sometimes bring the guys (stupid ones) on an emotional roller coaster ride using anger. They make the guys angry and so when they somehow manage to soothe that anger (either by apologizing or soothing the guy’s ego), the guys feel happy (this makes the brain associate the girls with happiness, which is a good feeling) and they get hooked to the girl. The angry-happy combo of feelings is one of the deadly traps.

To be continued

[GL-Roamer]

The Seven Deadly Sins (to get you cheated) (Part 2)

6. Pride
Pride has a lot to do with EGO. Girls like to prick or stroke the egos of guys through taunts or praises, either subtly or openly. They manipulate situations and circumstances claiming that they are the weaker sex and are unable to do certain things when they themselves are fully capable of doing it. The challenge issued here is ‘are you not capable of doing some simple things for me?’ or ‘are you that weak?’ Most guys will want to be hero so they will immediately go and do whatever the girl requests of them. They want to be hero worshipped. But in this world all the heroes are only found in graveyards. It is the BAD BOYS that are out there screwing all the babes and having all the babes rushing to them to give the bad boys their bodies. Why is this so because the bad boys are doing exactly what the girls are doing to the hero wannabes. They have no qualms about seducing, playing mind games, cheating or threatening. But please note that I am not encouraging anyone here to be a BAD BOY because such people usually have other bigger problems of their own as well and they are also not TOTALLY immune to the tricks that the girls have, just that they understand the game better than most guys that’s all.

The girls usually challenge guys subtly in the form of words and body language. By dressing up to look pretty they are already issuing a challenge of ‘come get me’ or ‘do you think you are good enough to bed me?’. Some girls compare what other guys gave them openly in front of their targets, to make their targets feel belittled and in order to JUSTIFY their ‘manliness’ their targets stupidly give more in order to ‘beat’ the ‘opposition’ (mostly its imaginary opposition). End of the day who is the one who benefits? It’s the girls. Who are the biggest losers? The guys who think that they are up against someone whom they ‘think’ are their rivals in winning the girl’s hearts.

But the best thing about this is that is only half of the story. Because the perception of being challenged is only complete when the guy himself thinks in the perspective of being challenged. The girls may hint and do whatsoever to bring this up the guy’s mind but so as long as the guy does NOT allow himself to be challenged, there is NO challenge. Because challenge is a MUTUAL thing, there must be a person who issues the challenge and a person who accepts the challenge.

7. Envy (Jealousy)
This is one of the most obvious ways of manipulation but also the one of the most effective because it works on the subconscious level. It is also the easiest to trigger. Imagine the girl whom you think is ‘yours’ is now being bonked by another guy. I believe many guys will think “shit what the hell man, she is supposed to be ‘mine’ alone, only I can bonk her”. Once such a possessive attitude is triggered, the guy is at the mercy of the girl simply because he can’t chain her up all day or lock her up in the room. The bitch will continue to demand more and more just to keep the guy company and to soothe his already paranoid and neurotic nerves but in the end she will definitely press the detonation button, which is to cheat him of everything he has and leave him for someone richer. This works because the girl has the guy’s emotions as hostage while the guy has ALMOST nothing to counter her with.

Conclusion
Everyone involved are humans, the girls themselves know it and therefore they make sure they protect themselves very well. The guys because of their over confidence or inflated egos fail to do the same and are thus prime targets.

[goenitz]

I felt i seen the light after reading this thread! Lots to think about...

[phallusman]

Bro roamer,

Fabulous article. It will take me a little time to digest it all. Makes an insightful dissertation.:)