Does the so call " true love " still exist???

[playboy82]

Often, i hav tot alot abt this, especially when i am going to work and after work,
and i started to think back, during sch time, gf are hard to find cos not handsome enough, then some more that time no balls also, unlike now, can approach any gals, then when u enter poly, tats no pretty gals in ur same class and all ur friends are mostly guys, single, n of course,they also hav no gals to intro to u cos even they themself can't get gf. Then wat can we do, other than to surf net, msn, friendster to find gals, but all the gals are so "dao" if u can get a reply, can consider very lucky,but of course i do get a few ons n flings from this type of channel, but although every time i get into this kinda of " play play " affair,even though i know that this kinda relationship won't work but every time i will treat it like a serious relationship, maybe deep deep down inside my heart , i do longed for a fairy tale like ending.

Then when u stepped into the working society, u find that ur working area also got no gals, mostly all married old woman, so no chance to get to know suitable gals too.And after work, i would listen to sad love song, thinking how difficult is to fall in love. And when u alone at home, i would cry sometimes, seriously, no joking, when u notice that u are so alone in ur life that there's not even a single caring gal who will ask u something like how is ur work
today, tough? I mean such a simple gesture that i see from other couple is
such a normal simple everyday thing to them, but to me, is like striking toto.
When i am young, i use to hope to live life simple,like those Qin Mei Zhu Ma, to married the gal i like n live happily ever after, not when i grew older, i come to realise that it is something like " mission impossible".

So wat can i do, i cannot jus anyhow approach gal which i like in the street and ask them for a date right. So wat can i do, other then to go geylang, and surf sammyboy. Seriously this forum is like become the core to my life ord, addicted to it, and also i notice alot other samsters is also trying to find their fairy tale love life, but in vain, thats y we go geylang and so emphasis "GF" feeling when we visit lorong 18,we are so pathatic that we hav to turn to a pro for some time limiting and costly "GF" feeling.

And often , i longed for someone to hug when i am feeling down, but deep down, i also know that love can't be force, and preciesly becos i know this, i am feeling more sad, how i wish that Love can be bought, then it will make things less complicating for me, at less i know that if i got the $$, i can have love.Thats y so many ppl turn to china or viet for option to marry wife. But in reality, it is not like that , $$ can't buy love., Up till now, i still wonder how my life will be in future, but i have a strong feeling that that's it for me ord, nothing big turn or twist will happen to me, still i will visit geylang,go home after work, visit sammyboy, then when i am old, die lonely.


Anyone here share the same thoughts as me? Is this the meaning of life?

[covenn]

bro widen ur social circle, take part in more activities. SDU organised or sthg. n if destined dat u remain single, take heart dat ther r plenty of single pple out ther who r leading happy lives too. the world is very ironic. some who r married cant wait to get out of it while some cant wait to jump into it. marriages do not mean a fairytale ending, juz a start of a new lifestyle still filled with mundane problems, juz as when u r single.

[tungsten]

The Bro above is right.

If you go to Mc Donalds... you get burger... Don't expect a steak to appear in the menu.

There is no Ms Perfect, only Ms Right.

Ms Right need not be perfect.

Ms Perfect might not be the right one for you.

[ABC Mafia]

welcome to ''the world'' , bro. but just dont ever feel like a loser even if u cant find true love. aleast u stil got a job, its not the end of the world. trying hanging out more, maybe 1 day ur fate wil come :cool:

[ABC Mafia]

welcome to ''the world'' , bro. but just dont ever feel like a loser even if u cant find true love. aleast u stil got a job, its not the end of the world. try hanging out more, maybe 1 day ur fate wil come :cool:

[vesfreq]

What true love? Girl in her teen believes in absolute love. Girl grow older early 20, still believe love can be found, even after some backs. Girl in her late 20s find that love is hard to get, so believes in compromising with less love, but more bread.

Girl in her early 30s is wise, but only yearns more for companionship. Girl in her late 30s finds love not all important, and looks only to companionship. Girl in her 40s, getting older, settles for a simple pet instead, rather than seeking romance.

One thing true about guy is ..... regardless of age still can equally potent with the right stimulation. Old man or young man still can be just as chee hong.

True love is superfluous and is more of a state of mind. Its just like material contentment, depends on what you are willing to settle with. Prob with man is that when he got Honda, he want to get a Zonda.

Friend of mine said he want a sedan, but later talked about a cabriolet. Life is as such. Man is never contented. The only contented man is one who had already long sworn to a life of complete abstinence from material indulgence.

I used to hunt for true love (some people say, "like real...."). But, after some years of working, life so short. Have to slog and work long hours. Either heng find a good girl to settle with or (if not so heng) find car to play with. I gave up on the former. Even the term "materialistic girl" had long faded from my mind. Only thing I have in mind is what car to buy next, how many horses, got sport rim/ sun roof and etc.

No point waiting like donkey for the "right" one to appear, cos' she may not exist in the first place. The real thing to do now is to live the best part of life. Thats now. :cool:

[dirk_diggler]

Often, i hav tot alot abt this, especially when i am going to work and after work,
and i started to think back, during sch time, gf are hard to find cos not handsome enough, then some more that time no balls also, unlike now, can approach any gals, then when u enter poly, tats no pretty gals in ur same class and all ur friends are mostly guys, single, n of course,they also hav no gals to intro to u cos even they themself can't get gf. Then wat can we do, other than to surf net, msn, friendster to find gals, but all the gals are so "dao" if u can get a reply, can consider very lucky,but of course i do get a few ons n flings from this type of channel, but although every time i get into this kinda of " play play " affair,even though i know that this kinda relationship won't work but every time i will treat it like a serious relationship, maybe deep deep down inside my heart , i do longed for a fairy tale like ending.

Then when u stepped into the working society, u find that ur working area also got no gals, mostly all married old woman, so no chance to get to know suitable gals too.And after work, i would listen to sad love song, thinking how difficult is to fall in love. And when u alone at home, i would cry sometimes, seriously, no joking, when u notice that u are so alone in ur life that there's not even a single caring gal who will ask u something like how is ur work
today, tough? I mean such a simple gesture that i see from other couple is
such a normal simple everyday thing to them, but to me, is like striking toto.
When i am young, i use to hope to live life simple,like those Qin Mei Zhu Ma, to married the gal i like n live happily ever after, not when i grew older, i come to realise that it is something like " mission impossible".

So wat can i do, i cannot jus anyhow approach gal which i like in the street and ask them for a date right. So wat can i do, other then to go geylang, and surf sammyboy. Seriously this forum is like become the core to my life ord, addicted to it, and also i notice alot other samsters is also trying to find their fairy tale love life, but in vain, thats y we go geylang and so emphasis "GF" feeling when we visit lorong 18,we are so pathatic that we hav to turn to a pro for some time limiting and costly "GF" feeling.

And often , i longed for someone to hug when i am feeling down, but deep down, i also know that love can't be force, and preciesly becos i know this, i am feeling more sad, how i wish that Love can be bought, then it will make things less complicating for me, at less i know that if i got the $$, i can have love.Thats y so many ppl turn to china or viet for option to marry wife. But in reality, it is not like that , $$ can't buy love., Up till now, i still wonder how my life will be in future, but i have a strong feeling that that's it for me ord, nothing big turn or twist will happen to me, still i will visit geylang,go home after work, visit sammyboy, then when i am old, die lonely.


Anyone here share the same thoughts as me? Is this the meaning of life?


Hey bro I feel exactyl the same way too....For me its more of all playing all the way when I was in school, didn't really gave much attention to chasing gals...Then when come to realised it its a bit too late in uni try to chase but always never succeed with the gal of my dreams, either kena snatched or something happen...Now it more of a if got then good, if dun have then just live life as it is....I totally understand your feelings man.

[angie II]

wah lau.. threadstarter, sure dat was ur true life experience?? bud ur nick here is called playboy82 leh.. :rolleyes:

[Hanzy]

I dedicate my 1st post to this tthread...

The situations u mentioned is like.. ur helping mi to confess out the sorrows thatz in my heart and i share the same sentiments as u.. so i totally understand ur feelings and views on this.. seeing ur frens, peers getting attachded or married.. especially after army where such cases are getting common.. one will feel envious of them.. but happy for them at the same time! theres this progamme showing on every tuesday 830pm channel u.. where the hosts assist ppl in unique ways to propose to their partner.. veri sweet to watch..

im wondering what occupation are you in.. have u ever thot of going into industry that will expose u to more gals? or u can join classes or workshops to learn new things.. i have not yet started myself though.. but i think most singles will join such classes..

and thx for opening this topic

[Hanzy]

I dedicate my 1st post to this tthread...

The situations u mentioned is like.. ur helping mi to confess out the sorrows thatz in my heart and i share the same sentiments as u.. so i totally understand ur feelings and views on this.. seeing ur frens, peers getting attachded or married.. especially after army where such cases are getting common.. one will feel envious of them.. but happy for them at the same time! theres this progamme showing on every tuesday 830pm channel u.. where the hosts assist ppl in unique ways to propose to their partner.. veri sweet to watch..

im wondering what occupation are you in.. have u ever thot of going into industry that will expose u to more gals? or u can join classes or workshops to learn new things.. i have not yet started myself though.. but i think most singles will join such classes.. as long as ur healthy, its nv too late. at least u still can get things going.

and thx for opening this topic

[jinrenhe]

Often, i hav tot alot abt this, especially when i am going to work and after work,

And often , i longed for someone to hug when i am feeling down, but deep down, i also know that love can't be force, and preciesly becos i know this, i am feeling more sad, how i wish that Love can be bought, then it will make things less complicating for me, at less i know that if i got the $$, i can have love.Thats y so many ppl turn to china or viet for option to marry wife. But in reality, it is not like that , $$ can't buy love., Up till now, i still wonder how my life will be in future, but i have a strong feeling that that's it for me ord, nothing big turn or twist will happen to me, still i will visit geylang,go home after work, visit sammyboy, then when i am old, die lonely.


Anyone here share the same thoughts as me? Is this the meaning of life?

Bro Playboy, ur words reflected what i've keeping in my heart for a long long long time...

Actually in my school days (3 years in Pre-U), i've had my share of relationships... 3 Gfs in my life so far, not alot but i feel contented & "normal" back then.

Until i broke up with my 'most recent gf' which was 3 years plus ago, my life the past 3 years plus (from 2003 to now...) has been a virtually a vaccum.

Right now, thou i'm in uni and my class is surrounded by beautiful gals, everyone of them are attached. Even for my guy buddies, quite a few of them have found themselves a nice gf to settle down with...

sometimes i think heaven has played a joke on me. I've had my success earlier than ppl, at an age where most of my peers were playing arcade or soccer. Then now, suddenly it seemed the tide has turned against me... everyone around me (guys or gals) seemed to have found their happiness... whilst i seem to be further & further away from my dream...

What does it take to be loved?? some ppl, without having to put in much effort, has a beautiful gf who would forgive & stand by them no matter what happen.

some ppl like me, no matter how hard i try, be it improving myself or what, seems destined for a life of loneliness.... :)

[fastcar]

What true love? Girl in her teen believes in absolute love. Girl grow older early 20, still believe love can be found, even after some backs. Girl in her late 20s find that love is hard to get, so believes in compromising with less love, but more bread.

Girl in her early 30s is wise, but only yearns more for companionship. Girl in her late 30s finds love not all important, and looks only to companionship. Girl in her 40s, getting older, settles for a simple pet instead, rather than seeking romance.

One thing true about guy is ..... regardless of age still can equally potent with the right stimulation. Old man or young man still can be just as chee hong.

True love is superfluous and is more of a state of mind. Its just like material contentment, depends on what you are willing to settle with. Prob with man is that when he got Honda, he want to get a Zonda.

Friend of mine said he want a sedan, but later talked about a cabriolet. Life is as such. Man is never contented. The only contented man is one who had already long sworn to a life of complete abstinence from material indulgence.

Only thing I have in mind is what car to buy next, how many horses, got sport rim/ sun roof and etc.

No point waiting like donkey for the "right" one to appear, cos' she may not exist in the first place. The real thing to do now is to live the best part of life. Thats now. :cool:

SO bro u driving a Zonda now ar??:) A bit steep la; try something more "down to earth " like a LP640

[medicheng]

Girls between 20-28, want someone who owns a car, who got bit of looks... both i dun have.....

money so hard to earn, and girls expects us to help them pay for everything.

and if we guys are tired of work, still ask us to go out on weekdays nights to cheong, machiam no need to work.... then ask them out sats, they prefer to sticks to their female friends.

like that how to find gf/wife?

i given up. sometimes fuck and leave is the best policy.....

cheers bro... u r not alone

[Dark Magician]

despite the case that there are many divoices case ard nwadays ...

but deep in my heart i still believe that true love does exsist in this world ..

the question here is do we have the chance to encounter it ...

somehow .. s long s u contiune to believe .. true love will happen to u ..

n i do believe that time will tell if the love we hv is true ...

jus sharing my views ... Thx

[dickrick]

Bro playboy82 and others in the same situation. My 2 cents worth is this:
Cast your net wider. Dun just think of our local girls. Before they reach 30 most of them have big expectations for a bf. Take a look at the Filipinos, Vietnamese etc. Some of them are really good lookers but more important they are more realistic. But before you get to that stage just make friends first. Practice your conversation skills. Get used to just plain talking without any motive in your mind. Then later develop the art of passing simple compliments. Then you move on...
Lastly, be very careful that you don't fall for an FL. Don't take this the wrong way, but, you can be very vulnerable to an FL at this stage. They give you the Gf feeling but their intention is not to make you bf no. 1 but maybe no.3 or no.4. A lot believe (like us too!), they need "spare tyres". A "Bf" is useful to them because of things like showing off to their friends, using you for favours like buying food, taking them out, and of course taking your hard earned cash.
Best of luck!

[strikeking73]

Love need time, need hardwork to find, need strick skin people to woo. When you cant find , you try to give excuse. Man try to "take" other guy's GF, woman try to "take" other woman's BF, that why divorce are high when love is not strong enough. Then you think true love does not exist. You went to gelang to have sex, after that you still alonely. Worst, you get disease, you ask yourself why you, but still no body will ans you. You grow older. you have money, and use your money to find poor country girls. In your heart, you know you use money to buy love, but you still do it, cos you scare you may die alonely, you may want to have shiok with young girl or you may want to have a baby with your surename on it. All are excuse, to cover your sin. Other people are doing it, why not me! That why you follow...

[klzombie]

To all the bros who expressed their likeness as described by the threadstarter, I feel sorry for your predicament.

However, it is not the end of the world!! Trust me on this!

When I was in school days, I never got a gf (yes some girls approached me, but I was too dumb to know they were baiting me ;p). My FIRST Gf was when I was TWENTY SEVEN!!! That late!! I noted that most of those who commented on this thread appear to be young guys like at the most in mid 20s.

I used to be a nerd in school, always looking into studies and thats it while my friends goes after girls woohoo!! In fact, funny thing is, now that i think abt it, I never was really interested in girls back then :confused: Anyway, I used to always have a bag behind my back (containing some math books etc), wearing giant glasses yeeek!! I shudder at what I used to look like!! But as time goes by and I started working, I learnt to better groom myself, learn to dress better (got rid of my giant glasses) learn to talk better, my circle of friends, colleagues and associates widen a lot and voila!! Girls approached me just like that! And I was lucky that I was naturally good natured so girls find it easy to talk and confide in me.

Finally, it was in one of those youth clubs I joined that I met my gf. She is really pretty, seriously (although pretty girls are really hard to handle but that’s another story -__-“). I didn’t know I will actually get her but I did after a year of courting her woot!

So the lesson here is that no matter how you think you will not get a gf, you are DEAD wrong!! If you improve yourself, widen your social circle, meet more people with no expectation in your mind except to have good friendship, a girl will definitely land on your feet!

I hope this makes this thread a little happier ;p

[tellmiwhy]

There is no Ms Perfect, only Ms Right.

Ms Right need not be perfect.

Ms Perfect might not be the right one for you.

well said bro. couldn't agree wif u mre coz thats what i'm going thru nw. up u for the phrases. :)


cheers

[Myo_Swee]

Seriously no need to rush for a gal...These things will come naturally...And btw thread starter, do u appear to be 'available' when chances come or u never seem to bother...Attitude is very important to get a gal's attention.

[Castrol]

Then wat can we do, other than to surf net, msn, friendster to find gals, but all the gals are so "dao" if u can get a reply, can consider very lucky,but of course i do get a few ons n flings from this type of channel,

you can get a few ons and flings mean you are quite good already lay... :confused:

"true love" is what you get from your family and your future wife who bore you children. when you pard tor, dont think so much about the meaning of love, think more about bread and water better.

[Disgusted]

I'm 30 now and only had 1 GF, which I'm about to let go of because it's a long distance thing. I know of "true love", because I can feel "true pain" when I'm not with her, it kills me on the inside everytime I say goodbye to her when she leaves Spore, I don't want to say goodbye to her again. I'm not the type of guy that approaches girls, fear of rejection blah blah blah... She approached me. If you can prove to be a nice respectable guy, over time people will notice, I'll never be the type of guy that girls will immediately go gaga over, but if I take 3 to 6 months, they always warm up to me. Problem is, they want a MAN to make the 1st move, not a boy without confidence, that's where they decide that I can only qualify to be a friend. That's my fault and I have to be the one to take the blame for not taking the next step, already 30 still not learning, hope I can find my true love soon, I believe she is out there, maybe not love at 1st sight, maybe not pretty, but when I am are down and need a hug, she's there for me. That's all I ask for.

[Coldcut]

I believe "True Love" exists but it does not happen to everyone. It also depends what you look for in a partner and how each one of us defines "True Love" too. To the threadstarter, I would suggest be patient and your "True Love" will appear in your life. Try not to rush and pick any girls you see or who is single and available. Take your time and choose wisely Bro. Sometimes I do ask myself this question too "Is my gf the one I really love?" (but this is off-topic) Hehe! :)

[asdfghjkl]

i just read, from sister jui, that he just wants a woman who can cook and bed.. :cool:

[playboy82]

I dedicate my 1st post to this tthread...

The situations u mentioned is like.. ur helping mi to confess out the sorrows thatz in my heart and i share the same sentiments as u.. so i totally understand ur feelings and views on this.. seeing ur frens, peers getting attachded or married.. especially after army where such cases are getting common.. one will feel envious of them.. but happy for them at the same time! theres this progamme showing on every tuesday 830pm channel u.. where the hosts assist ppl in unique ways to propose to their partner.. veri sweet to watch..

im wondering what occupation are you in.. have u ever thot of going into industry that will expose u to more gals? or u can join classes or workshops to learn new things.. i have not yet started myself though.. but i think most singles will join such classes..

and thx for opening this topic


ya man... the feeling is especially strong when u in BMT, when all ur friends have gf who will visit them during pop, when u see in them wearing the cap for ur friend, it is so sweet and u wonder why u urself hav no such luck. And during weekend u have nowhere to go, cos all ur guy friend accompany their gf., and u can't get a gal to date. Right?

[vesfreq]

SO bro u driving a Zonda now ar??:) A bit steep la; try something more "down to earth " like a LP640

Zonda no money lah. :D Even buy honda nsx also bo lui.

For budget performance, its either a honda accord euro r or integra type r. If hiong a bit, still can try a nissan 350z. Or better yet, buy old rx7 efini and throw in new rotary engine.

But, zonda out of reach. Otherwise, drinking in some pub already. :P

[Hanzy]

ya man... the feeling is especially strong when u in BMT, when all ur friends have gf who will visit them during pop, when u see in them wearing the cap for ur friend, it is so sweet and u wonder why u urself hav no such luck. And during weekend u have nowhere to go, cos all ur guy friend accompany their gf., and u can't get a gal to date. Right?

haha.. yea.. inside camp tahan so much finally book out, but nowhere to go, nothing special to do.. nobody awaits u.. but most of my frens are also single and they are living happily i guess.. by being happy, u attract happy ppl.. im trying to do tat. :)

[chiqinhan]

Girls between 20-28, want someone who owns a car, who got bit of looks... both i dun have.....

money so hard to earn, and girls expects us to help them pay for everything.

and if we guys are tired of work, still ask us to go out on weekdays nights to cheong, machiam no need to work.... then ask them out sats, they prefer to sticks to their female friends.

like that how to find gf/wife?

i given up. sometimes fuck and leave is the best policy.....

cheers bro... u r not alone

bro this one something which i totally agree............. 100% right man. thats y i always say been female who has the minimum average looks or figure is always better than a guy.

[asdfghjkl]

then go for girls whose age is < 20 and > 28 type lor ~ kekeke ;)

[Wolfiexx1]

a few things i dun agree on...

marrying china and vietnam brides may be buying love at first, but feelings will develop as time goes by...granted the fact that the guy is acceptable looking and have a good character..with time, and good virtues...most girls will fall in love with the time... the trick is spending time together and treating her well.... actually girls are not so complicated by nature...its only when the materialistic and educational thing comes in, they ' evolved'

marriage is not a good thing either... why marry? if u like the girl and the girl like u, just be together...take a day at a time, i firmly believe in this time and age...there are too much temptation and complication, never know when the marriage is going to end and the headaches will start...you may be the victim or the girl may be the victim...whatever, as the saying as ' know the person, know the face, but u dn know the heart' it is even more true in this era....

i gone thru lots of relationship and a failed marriage already... am now with a girl who is deeply in love with me and i am deeply in love with her.... i never felt more happy, she's like the true love of my life...but i dun intend to marry her and i;m glad she feels the same way.sadly mankind is changing....i firmly believe in another 3 decades, marriage is no longer important.... we feel we have nothing much to fear nowadays and values are changing...

dun be afriad about not getting true love.... its out there... its how u find it. if u dun move, the girl wun come find u.but again, how many of us can proclaim to find true love...how many of us settled for the correct girl to marry than the true love of our life to marry?? a minute of the population....

life is not all flowers and sweets... life sucks, its a fact!

[asdfghjkl]

i firmly believe in another 3 decades, marriage is no longer important.

ancient people actually had this belief for thousand of years liao.. but now.. :o

[playboy82]

here is a very interesting but yet true animation on the net, hope yo bros will like it.
http://www.pconline.com.cn/pcedu/carton/showgood/10208/other/0817xiaobing.swf

[Berserk]

here is a very interesting but yet true animation on the net, hope yo bros will like it.
http://www.pconline.com.cn/pcedu/carton/showgood/10208/other/0817xiaobing.swf

bro..

I used to feel this way 2 especailly in the sec school days... but things changed during my NS...cos i would always get contact nos from my army buddies and start to polish up on my sianing skills... managed to get a few oNS 2... but it is NOT impossible to find true love from all these contacts or whatever channels... 2 of my ex is found through chatline and the relationships last for a few years each...

We do nt need a car or have a great job to sian girls... what girls r looking for is a guy who care to fullfill them emotionally.. as long as u have a stable job.. care for them.. they will start to fall in love with u and be serious with u... do nt always need to shower them with expensive gifts but always give them pleasant surprises and they will be contented enough..

Bro.. gd luck.. things r nt so bad which u have imagined to be.. God bless.

[tellmiwhy]

Girls between 20-28, want someone who owns a car, who got bit of looks... both i dun have.....

money so hard to earn, and girls expects us to help them pay for everything.

and if we guys are tired of work, still ask us to go out on weekdays nights to cheong, machiam no need to work.... then ask them out sats, they prefer to sticks to their female friends.


agree also bro. dunno is i nt "heng" or wat, but majority of my gal friends are kinda materialistic. meet up must be at restaurants. knn, we guy friends meet anywhere also can even coffishop la kopi also no prob. ask them go they will say nicely "ermmm....can go somewhere else?" :( then onli things they +++ abt are hw other ppl's bf bought branded stuff for their gfs etc. haizz...tot we guys can have tears that are diamonds or shit out golds instead of shit!! :p where gt so rich, then wedding wan grand grand but dun reali wan to help and worse of all, after married household expenses must be borne by the male!!! (wat i said are real things about my gal friends. but might nt reflect what other gals out there that i duno. so no offence.)


jus my 1 cent wrth. cheers

[BMW520_M]

:p where gt so rich, then wedding wan grand grand but dun reali wan to help and worse of all, after married household expenses must be borne by the male!!! (wat i said are real things about my gal friends. but might nt reflect what other gals out there that i duno. so no offence.)


jus my 1 cent wrth. cheers

And Yes, after all the paying. It will become a SEXLESS MARRIAGE after a very short time!!!!!!

[tellmiwhy]

And Yes, after all the paying. It will become a SEXLESS MARRIAGE after a very short time!!!!!!


haha...yeah. and sexless is nt that we have no mre drive, is the things tat u think of by them makes u lose the drive for them. :p tats what's happening to my friend nw.

no offences to any sistas here k. i must admit that there are marriages that i noe of their wife are reali nice ppl. Hw i envy them. hope mine will be like them. :rolleyes:

[reuters]

Zonda no money lah. :D Even buy honda nsx also bo lui.


You driving a lancer?

[euks]

True love?

Love had never existed in this world. It exist only in the mind of individuals. It is a concept, idea or some call it human bullshit.

Like faith and morals, the idea "love" was created, modify, recreated, remodify countless time.

Today, nobody can explain nor define what is faith, morals nor love anymore.
Everyone have their own definations and explanations.

When human became advance enough to easily satisfy their basic needs of food, water, shelter, they needed something to fill up their time, mind and life.

In comes , spiritual fulfilling concepts (eg: religion,) emotional fulfilling concepts, and material products.

So before you start feeling empty and sad for something that is a product of collected human thoughts, THINK!

You don't need to have "love" to have a satisfying day. Why feel sad when you don't have "something" that is actually nothing if you change your perspective.

Fill up your life with something else. You can still be happy

P.S Just another boring day for me so I am pretending here that I know something to fill up that void of my day

[playboy82]

But without a gf can be really pitiful, when inweekends, and especially during valentine and other holidays, where u see other couple out in the street, then u ask urself, i dun look any worst than that guy also, then y he can get a gal?

But over the yrs, i do have gain some enlightment, that is true love this kinda thing is Ke Yu Bu Ke Qiu, Meaning if u lucky , u will get, can only let it come naturally but cannot force it to happen.Just like striking toto. Thats life.. sad to say. Where every damm gal, whether pretty, nor ugly wif a bit of figure is taken up by those despo where it leaves nothing to those who is finding true love, like us.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

If you believe it exists it will,if not it wont.How true is true,u decide for urself.:)

[asdfghjkl]

wao.. reaching the buddhist's theory of enlightenment liao ah? ;)

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

wao.. reaching the buddhist's theory of enlightenment liao ah? ;)

i am nowhere near bro,just a personal thought on it.:)

[Berserk]

hi bros..

i once have a gf who love to spent 2.. when i was just with her.. my wallet really suffer a big hole... i would buy clothes for her whenever we go shopping... though my heart pains.. i would still buy things for her with a smile on my face...

After some time.. an idea struck me... i lied to her my contract for my job ended.. i would suffer a great pay cut in my new job... having said that.. i would then tell her i would scrimp and save on myself to buy gifts for her... then she paiseh and said no need save up some for yrself... from that day onwards... she dun bear to ask me to buy things for her anymore... but i would still buy some less expensive presents for her at times to make her happy...

bros.. sometimes we need to be great pretenders 2... remember attack the heart... instead of the city...Gong Xin Bu Gong Cheng.

[asdfghjkl]

sometimes we need to be great pretenders... Gong Xin Bu Gong Cheng.

haiz.. you have grasped well the tricks of the late Martial Lord Zhuge Kong Ming.. :p

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

After some time.. an idea struck me... i lied to her my contract for my job ended.. i would suffer a great pay cut in my new job... having said that.. i would then tell her i would scrimp and save on myself to buy gifts for her... then she paiseh and said no need save up some for yrself... from that day onwards... she dun bear to ask me to buy things for her anymore... but i would still buy some less expensive presents for her at times to make her happy...

bros.. sometimes we need to be great pretenders 2... remember attack the heart... instead of the city...Gong Xin Bu Gong Cheng.

thats very sweet of her as well.A white lie cant really hurt and who knw it may bring out smth gd frm someone.:)

[Loser---]

True love?

Love had never existed in this world. It exist only in the mind of individuals. It is a concept, idea or some call it human bullshit.

Like faith and morals, the idea "love" was created, modify, recreated, remodify countless time.

Today, nobody can explain nor define what is faith, morals nor love anymore.
Everyone have their own definations and explanations.

When human became advance enough to easily satisfy their basic needs of food, water, shelter, they needed something to fill up their time, mind and life.

In comes , spiritual fulfilling concepts (eg: religion,) emotional fulfilling concepts, and material products.

So before you start feeling empty and sad for something that is a product of collected human thoughts, THINK!

You don't need to have "love" to have a satisfying day. Why feel sad when you don't have "something" that is actually nothing if you change your perspective.

Fill up your life with something else. You can still be happy

P.S Just another boring day for me so I am pretending here that I know something to fill up that void of my day


Actually I agree with you. But only 80%. The remaning 20%? A parent's love to the child, especially a mother's. Although I truly agree that a pairing of a male and a female really has no tangible meaning, one cannot deny the care and concern that a parent showers towards his/her child. How many instances have we heard of couples not willing to divorce because of their offspring?

One can probably argue that this behavior (as in, not willing to divorce when one already has kids) may be due to social pressures given by others if one were to really abandon their child. However, I believe this is not the case as care for one's offspring really stems from our primitive and subconscious side. Few creatures in the animal kingdom would also actually abandon their own offspring when they require care. Of course there are always exceptions, just like how we have heard of humans abandoning their new-born babies. But taken as a %, this number is really minute.

In short, love DOES exist. But only when it's BLOOD related.

[Loser---]

Oh yes, and pls up my points if you like what I say. Cos' I need to get FL contacts from the senior bros and "make love" to the chickens hahaha

[des4fuck]

bros

me 31 this year and not even have one gf before . So what the big deal ??? true love may exist but not 4 me !!! maybe i will chiong till the day i die hahaha. i hope to die after i have 4some with three international big boobs SYT . hope then my small bro below still can make it .:)


threatstarter you r still young y think so much ?? have fun lah

[des4fuck]

bros

me 31 this year and not even have one gf before . So what the big deal ??? true love may exist but not 4 me !!! maybe i will chiong till the day i die hahaha. i hope to die after i have 4some with three international big boobs SYT . hope then my small bro below still can make it .:)


threatstarter you r still young y think so much ?? have fun lah


just to add

i believe in Fate and will follow fate . just a piece of my mind

[natsuki]

U also asked whether the so-called 'true love' exist wor... So whether is it true or not,it all lies in your heart.

What is the defination of LOVE?

Maybe U met A, u thought this is 'true love'. Then U met B, planned to make her just a fling, in the end she thought U were her 'true love' and this time A confess to U that U were just another scandal, she actually has Das a 'true love'.

Just like couples, why some can hang on to each other for twenty years? fifty years? sixty years? This type of relationship has already turn into a habit, no longer love. For most people, i believe, the one they married with will never be the one they love the most. Sometimes, things that u can't get, tend to be the most precious.

But if u believes in 'true love' , the word 'belief' stands a big part. 信念是很重要的。你要信就行，不信就不行啦。

Anyway, seriously who still believe in true love nowadays when men thought women love money so much and women thought men love sex even more then themselves?Haizzzz..... :confused: :(

[Kyser Soze]

But if u believes in 'true love' , the word 'belief' stands a big part. 信念是很重要的。你要信就行，不信就不行啦。

Anyway, seriously who still believe in true love nowadays when men thought women love money so much and women thought men love sex even more then themselves?Haizzzz..... (
I'm reaching 30 soon. I used to believe in true love when I was younger, say till 27 year-old. Sometimes when I see my friends getting married and having kids, it looks as though I'm missing an important part of my life. Most part of my past 10 years only engaged in two short relationships. Yes, short ones meaning less than a year kind. The problem is I can't understand the girls, and the girls refuse to understand me. I did tried very hard to woo a girl. No choice, the only avenue to women is via FL liao lor. Simple, spend ~$80-100, you will get a PRC FJ comes with shower, BJ or even frenching. Somemore no strings attached. Just fxxk and go. You can also get different girls too. Big boobs, small boobs, pretty, not so pretty, tight, not so tight...etc.

Things made me grow from a 'Sensitive New Age Guy' to a 'Insensitive New Age Bad Guy'. I know this is not right whenever I think in-depth. I know I need to change. But my environment have not convinced me true love existed. Some guys have dozens of GFs, while a 'loser' like me is struggling to find a women I love...

[natsuki]

Things made me grow from a 'Sensitive New Age Guy' to a 'Insensitive New Age Bad Guy'. I know this is not right whenever I think in-depth. I know I need to change. But my environment have not convinced me true love existed. Some guys have dozens of GFs, while a 'loser' like me is struggling to find a women I love...

Okay lah... When actually a man have dozens of gfs,lovers,fb.... What does he know about 'true love' ? It's great to have plenty of girls attract to u in a way or another. But infact, if u has enough confidence in yourself, one or two should be enough le. Sometimes too many girls around u, cut down ur chances to know more nicer girls. Anyway, there's nothing to be sad about being alone also. More freedom more space... More different types veges for u to chose. Time will come for u to meet the right one. Don't be too choosy, maybe u will find ur Miss Right faster. :)

I don't know whether u are chinese or wad race... But there's this cantonese song call '双失情人节' from Twins... U can try to search for the mtv or listen to that song... Lyric is meaningful... If u can understand cantonese...:p

这一位扮繁忙未说过二月里这一天预备抽空见我 但我喜欢等不管最后如何早清楚他当我什么 这一位早已经预约我我奉劝他归家等结果 若我这一天竟然和他一起过 亦是坎坷

今晚我爱的人在散心可惜我太不幸没有份 而他此际可能和情人拥吻 人在庆节我却箭穿心 偏偏爱我的人没有等彷佛那个丘比特是有心 何解我约的人突然全部都躲开我 榨不出一滴吻

这一位不理睬但我爱就像我喜欢他是为他不理我 受过几多苦始终满面详这苦心改变过什么 这一位不够好但爱我我耐性比起他怎算多 若觉得孤单走回头等他亲我 份外凄楚

何解他要等等不到我 而他不等我又在苦等 今晚我爱的人在散心可惜我太不幸没有份 如果佳节不能和情人拥吻 情愿这晚快过快熄灯
偏偏爱我的人没有等 彷佛那个邱比特是有心 人拣我我拣人突然全部都不拣我 让今晚隔外暗~

[Happywheel]

But without a gf can be really pitiful, when inweekends, and especially during valentine and other holidays, where u see other couple out in the street, then u ask urself, i dun look any worst than that guy also, then y he can get a gal?

But over the yrs, i do have gain some enlightment, that is true love this kinda thing is Ke Yu Bu Ke Qiu, Meaning if u lucky , u will get, can only let it come naturally but cannot force it to happen.Just like striking toto. Thats life.. sad to say. Where every damm gal, whether pretty, nor ugly wif a bit of figure is taken up by those despo where it leaves nothing to those who is finding true love, like us.

don't feel sad. I used to have the same thought as you but have changed my mindset over the years...finding a gf is not my goal anymore although some of my friends are still searching high and low for a gf to settle down.

Well, i will leave it to fate.. have met 3 girls over the past few years but just blame it for lack of chemistry that relationship never progress further. Most gals doesn't really go for the look in guy...good communication & confidence is more important and this is where gals are looking for in a guy:)

[Cognac]

But have any bros experienced this b4:

--> Have tonnes of gfs for the past 10 yrs, of which there was only 2 true love (to you). And when you thought you could direct your focus and pour all your love onto her, she left you giving you crap excuses before you know it.

--> In short when you have much feelings (maybe like a lot but you can't feel the love) for the girl, the girl loves you like hell. If you thought you truly love the girl you're with, she just walks away from your life like that.

Anyone experienced this? This is basically my love life. But like what some bros said here, it's the perspective you adopt that counts. You're unhappy because of the basis of foundation that you've already set at the back of your mind. You will be happy if you remove that level of foundation/expectation, and you can be happy too.

We're only here for about 3/4 of a century before we die. Life is precious. Why not make the best out of it and not sit down and feel sorry for ourselves? :cool:

[TheSting]

One of my fav quotes.. from an otherwise so-so movie

True love is your soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another

[Loser---]

Many thanks to bro euks who upped me....

[chiqinhan]

But have any bros experienced this b4:

--> Have tonnes of gfs for the past 10 yrs, of which there was only 2 true love (to you). And when you thought you could direct your focus and pour all your love onto her, she left you giving you crap excuses before you know it.

--> In short when you have much feelings (maybe like a lot but you can't feel the love) for the girl, the girl loves you like hell. If you thought you truly love the girl you're with, she just walks away from your life like that.

Anyone experienced this? This is basically my love life. But like what some bros said here, it's the perspective you adopt that counts. You're unhappy because of the basis of foundation that you've already set at the back of your mind. You will be happy if you remove that level of foundation/expectation, and you can be happy too.

We're only here for about 3/4 of a century before we die. Life is precious. Why not make the best out of it and not sit down and feel sorry for ourselves? :cool:

ya its very true man. the one u love more will always be the one that will ends up leaving u, i mean most of the time, i also dunno y. whereas one whom love u more will usually be the one u are more like use to than love. hai...... wonder y life is such dilemma.... simply sucks man.

[Kyser Soze]

More freedom more space... More different types veges for u to chose. Time will come for u to meet the right one. Don't be too choosy, maybe u will find ur Miss Right faster.
Yo sis, thanks for your encouragement. I agreed that there's so much freedom, no GF to keep track of you all the time. Especially when there's so much veges to try without strings attached (though I have yet to try you...keke...). Conversely, I realised that having sex with a FL can be quite empty. I mean in terms of psychologically, not really of the $80, $90, $100 I spent. This is what I meant 'not right'. I'm not sure if you feel that way too.

However, I do hope my Miss Right will come soon...

偏偏爱我的人没有等 彷佛那个邱比特是有心 人拣我我拣人突然全部都不拣我 让今晚隔外暗~
Nice lyrics written...though I'm not a Twins' fan. Hope you have a caring BF too. If not, hope you find one心爱的人soon.:D

[natsuki]

Yo sis, thanks for your encouragement. I agreed that there's so much freedom, no GF to keep track of you all the time. Especially when there's so much veges to try without strings attached (though I have yet to try you...keke...). Conversely, I realised that having sex with a FL can be quite empty. I mean in terms of psychologically, not really of the $80, $90, $100 I spent. This is what I meant 'not right'. I'm not sure if you feel that way too.

Hmmm, sometimes i feel empty too. Whether alone or with others... Even now also very empty lei... The feeling of something amiss.... Hmmm... How come huh? Hungry? keke... Don't think too much lah... Everyone will feel lonely one...:)

Nice lyrics written...though I'm not a Twins' fan. Hope you have a caring BF too. If not, hope you find one心爱的人soon.:D

心爱的人 is Hokkien song is it? I prefer canto pop. Hmmm... Whatever it is... More hope u have, more sad u will be... So whatever things u do, don't put in too much hope. Have a nice day... Thanks. =P

[playboy82]

Yo sis, thanks for your encouragement. I agreed that there's so much freedom, no GF to keep track of you all the time. Especially when there's so much veges to try without strings attached (though I have yet to try you...keke...). Conversely, I realised that having sex with a FL can be quite empty. I mean in terms of psychologically, not really of the $80, $90, $100 I spent. This is what I meant 'not right'. I'm not sure if you feel that way too.

However, I do hope my Miss Right will come soon...


Nice lyrics written...though I'm not a Twins' fan. Hope you have a caring BF too. If not, hope you find one心爱的人soon.:D

ya, even when i am in a room full of pplm , singing KTV, i will feel empty, and i sometimes dun cum wif a $80 or $40 FL, cos its too empty, no gf feeling, the fantasy is not ther4e, and cumming rely largly on the mindset, and not how hard she stroke ur dick, or pump how hard, which the Prositute fail to understand.

[natsuki]

ya, even when i am in a room full of pplm , singing KTV, i will feel empty, and i sometimes dun cum wif a $80 or $40 FL, cos its too empty, no gf feeling, the fantasy is not ther4e, and cumming rely largly on the mindset, and not how hard she stroke ur dick, or pump how hard, which the Prositute fail to understand.

Hmmm... Very bad sentence... Pros are humans too hor... They got feelings. If they failed to understand your feeling, but do you understand their feelings? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... :(:cool:

[jinrenhe]

Things made me grow from a 'Sensitive New Age Guy' to a 'Insensitive New Age Bad Guy'. I know this is not right whenever I think in-depth. I know I need to change. But my environment have not convinced me true love existed. Some guys have dozens of GFs, while a 'loser' like me is struggling to find a women I love...

i know how it feels... sometimes i feel life's quite unfair, my every step seems to harder than people :(

[Kyser Soze]

Hmmm, sometimes i feel empty too. Whether alone or with others... Even now also very empty lei... The feeling of something amiss.... Hmmm... How come huh? Hungry? keke... Don't think too much lah... Everyone will feel lonely one...]
I remember one report based on sex and psychology says that men and women who reached their sexual climax doesn't means that they are really sexually satisfied. Maybe it's true. Most times I will shoot my load, but doesn't mean that it has fulfil the sexual urge. Haizz... a young lady like you don't think too much also. If hungry, just eat and sleep lor. For a old man like me, too much to worry about liao... Career, money, dick functionality...and true love?!:D
心爱的人 is Hokkien song is it? I prefer canto pop.
Haha...心爱的人= True Love. Not hokkien song lah. Hope u find your true love soon.
i know how it feels... sometimes i feel life's quite unfair, my every step seems to harder than people
Work hard bro. Life can never be fair. If a bimbo like Paris Hilton can be born with a silver spoon, how fair can the world be? We can fall a thousand of times. But we must pick ourselves up eventually. Just a two cents worth comment from another loser.:o

[giggz83]

hello threadstarter ...

well, we share the same sentiment. alrite.. but fret not! its really not the end of the world!!

of cos, sometimes seeing other couple and you alone .. like very uncomfortable. asking yourself .. why you alone and people like lovey-dovey ..

ITS ALRITE .. really .. just think that probably that guy is lucky .. and probably, his time came first .. everybody has a chance but its just that his came first. SO you just wait for your turn.

and while waiting for you turn .. dont forget to upgrade yourself .. basic grooming .. change to contact .. change hairstyle .. change the way you talk .. the way you behave .. the way you conduct yourself ...

dont worry if you're in NS or studying .. cos .. your life will ONLY START after NS, for us .. spore man .. *sad to say*

no money is an excuse ..

just ask yourself which girl would want a guy who dont groom .. who always dress sloppy .. grumpy and dont have at least some money???

this is a reality world .. no money = no date = hard to find girl.

I, personally like the old hokkien ah beng quote .. "will come means will come" but of cos, in the meanwhile upgrade yourself .. dont stand there and do nth.

cos if she really comes .. ask yourself .. are you really that READY to go all out? and have a "fight" with all those male outside? and what are your chances???

i, myself have made these mistakes before .. so now, i'm preparing myself .. i try to upgrade myself .. bit by bit .. cos i no $ ... kekekeke..

anyway .. dont always reprimand yourself .. its just that you dont have a chance to perform yet!! if it comes grab it!!

remember ... the 1st failure maybe a learning experience .. 2nd failure maybe a mistake ... dont repeat it .. BUT A 3rd time .. something must be wrong with you .. CHANGE!!!!

:D


just my 5cents worth.

[vandervaart]

I'm immensely guilty when it comes to relationships. I don't know what is love seriously, is it merely having a best friend who's female, only that you can do things to her which you won't, to a male buddy.

I have a friend, who's really good looking, rich and nice, but somehow, he's still single till now. People have suspected he's gay, but obviously he's not, he just plainly replies, "I can spend my free time playing my PS2, go to the gym or sleep, why would i go out with a girl? That's the reason why i'm tons richer and scoring better in school than you guys. Hell, i can wank myself." So hsi theory is that love is merely a "commercial activity"......

[natsuki]

Aiyah, whatever it is. Why bother so much? The more u gian, the more disappointed u will become mah... 顺其自然 better...

Anyway, everyone's defination of 'LOVE' is different in a way or another. :p

[curiosityz]

i think 顺其自然 is still the best...

[sillyboyboy]

i think ???? is still the best...


I no longer ask for a decent ger.. just one that likes me and her me.

education and background also not important.

even looks, soso also can.

thing is everything is temporal so can get one that is oki, important is that she is true about it. Then can liaos.

Got alot of gers the perspective is so .. different. They value things that I no longer value. My threshold has dropped so much in the last few years. People are so shallow.

I realise you are too nice to a ger, she take you for granted and treat you like an idiot. Not so nice then for some f**king reason she stick to you like glue.


So my advice. Lower the priority you have for women. Think about what you want to do with your life, carve out a nice career. and things will fall into place. Worst come to worse, you can buy the body, there will always be pros. Best case scenario, you find someone along the way that both mutually want to live with.

Sometimes you get the suck hand. Don't make do. Make the best you can of it.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

ya, even when i am in a room full of pplm , singing KTV, i will feel empty, and i sometimes dun cum wif a $80 or $40 FL, cos its too empty, no gf feeling, the fantasy is not ther4e, and cumming rely largly on the mindset, and not how hard she stroke ur dick, or pump how hard, which the Prositute fail to understand.

pardon me if i am wrong but r u born in 1982?life is too short for u to be living in such a pessimistic way of life bro.pm me,join our outings and soon we will be taking u out of that circle.pm me at ur own risk hor.:D

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

remember ... the 1st failure maybe a learning experience .. 2nd failure maybe a mistake ... dont repeat it .. BUT A 3rd time .. something must be wrong with you .. CHANGE!!!!

:D


just my 5cents worth.

power la this statement bro,this is what happened to me during my KC days.hahaha~~:D

[john99]

I read all these pessimism here so here are my few words. I hope there still is, otherwise marriages will break up at the slightest adversities. Life is never easy and we constantly seek to improve our careers and earning power. Why not apply this rule to your relationships and marriages??

We spend almost all our waking hours doing battle with bosses, competitors, clients, bitchy and jealous colleagues and very little time nurturing our folks at home taking them for granted.

Guys, whether you are handsome or not, rich or poor, there will always be someone for you but don't expect the lady to fit all yr criteria , after all do you fit all her expectations.

I still believe you can be romantic but also be practical about who you want to spent the rest of yr life with.

[jinrenhe]

Buddism teaches that the root of all misery is attachment....

How true.... i'm so miserable cos of my attachment to the gals who couldn't care less about me

I'm going to practice non-attachment.... Wu Wo

[asdfghjkl]

buttie jin.. i thought last time u got play cards one? i mean your avatar! :rolleyes:

[Deztruct]

my frds n colleagues always tot tat i got no problem dating gers but in reality tats not the case...everynite i chose to work late bcoz other than workin..i got no place to go after work..on weekends, i juz stay hm n sleep

well its a fact tat i get along with the gers but i really juz a gd frd to them..the sort who be there for them when they need it..the category of nice but not my type of guys...

for the past 1 year or so...i was in love with an attached ger..she was already attached before i noe her..when i got to noe her beta..i slowly fall in love with her..it was not somethin like i woke up 1 day n i realise i like her..its juz a gradual sort of thing..during weekdays, we wld sms n email each other..when she wan to go down to get something, i wld go down with her (we work in building beside each other)..the sweetest thing in the mornin is when i wake up and saw her sms..tellin she finally got up her bus or she miss her bus again n hv to take cab to ofc..but come weekends, we wld stop contacting each other as she wld b with her bf..a few times, i saw her n her bf together..we wld juz smile n walk past each other..even after such thing, i wld pretend nothin is wrong n continue to talk to her the next workin day..i feel so bad inside but then again..i dun even hv the rite to feel jealous..after all i m not her bf

my frds told me tat if i really like her..i shld tell her n let her made the decision to be with me or her bf..but i din wan to do tat..her bf is innocent and i dun ever wan to put her in a difficult situation when she hv to choose..so all the while, i juz continue to be her best frd..to forget her..i tried likin other gers also but it failed..tried to quarrel with her but then she wld stand there n say nothin..after i finish ranting..she wld juz ask gently wat happen to make me react like tat..tried to ignore her email n sms..but in the end..she wld juz keep smsin me n tell me tat she is upset tat i ignored her..so i still gave in to her

i noe tat i am being stupid for continuing on..but at the end of the day i tell myself..the decision is made by myself..even if the consequences is tat i wld b hurt ultimately..i still willl accept it..everythin little thing i do for her..i juz wan her to be happy..she need not reciprocate my feelings..mayb this is not true love..i juz being stubborn to hold on to this relationship but at least everythin i did for her is unconditional

[devilnight69]

Anyone here share the same thoughts as me? Is this the meaning of life?


ya, bro playboy 82, it's sound familiar to me, we are in the same boat.

[playboy82]

ya, bro playboy 82, it's sound familiar to me, we are in the same boat.

ya, i bet a lot of ppl are also the same boat as us, and the truth is, i am not fat or short, and with basic looks... but jus have no luck with love.. Think if there are past life,, then i must be a very wildful playboy so to result in this life, cannot get the gal i want.

[jinrenhe]

my frds n colleagues always tot tat i got no problem dating gers but in reality tats not the case...everynite i chose to work late bcoz other than workin..i got no place to go after work..on weekends, i juz stay hm n sleep

well its a fact tat i get along with the gers but i really juz a gd frd to them..the sort who be there for them when they need it..the category of nice but not my type of guys...

for the past 1 year or so...i was in love with an attached ger..she was already attached before i noe her..when i got to noe her beta..i slowly fall in love with her..it was not somethin like i woke up 1 day n i realise i like her..its juz a gradual sort of thing..during weekdays, we wld sms n email each other..when she wan to go down to get something, i wld go down with her (we work in building beside each other)..the sweetest thing in the mornin is when i wake up and saw her sms..tellin she finally got up her bus or she miss her bus again n hv to take cab to ofc..but come weekends, we wld stop contacting each other as she wld b with her bf..a few times, i saw her n her bf together..we wld juz smile n walk past each other..even after such thing, i wld pretend nothin is wrong n continue to talk to her the next workin day..i feel so bad inside but then again..i dun even hv the rite to feel jealous..after all i m not her bf




Bro, i am in, ok i was in , the same situation as u. Few months bac, i realized i've gradually fallen for a beautiful & kind hearted classmate who's attached.
For the past few months, my mood has been on a roller-coaster ride... i've never looked forward to class like i did haha, and it was the only time i could enjoy spending with her. But sometimes it rely frustrate me cos i couldn't even have lunch with her after class or ask her out during the weekend cos she'll be with her bf. She seems so close to me, yet so far... And i know i dun even have the right to feel upset, cos she wasn't even mine to begin with...

After nights of unhappiness, i realized nothing would come out of this relationship and decide to save myself from further heartbreak...

Each time after a failed attempt (i couldn't even consider it a relationship cos usually i'm no more than a fren to the gal i like), it would take some time for me to nurse my wound before picking myself up and initiate another friendship with a gal i fancy .................................... only to meet with another failure

sometimes i feel like some shady characters living along the borderline of the society, constantly subjected to failures and plagued by depression..

[Deztruct]

Bro Jinheren

I think tat all of us in some part of our life wld feel the same also..its really hard to be happy all the time..it all depend on what our priorities are..

like most, if not everyone, i crave for a stable relationship..at the end of a workday..got a voice to +++ to and on weekend.a someone to go out with..but somehow things have not been workin out for me the past 2 years..mayb its juz retribution but then again..u cant wish for love to happen..tats y its called fallin in love..

like another bro here..i believe in love urself before others can love u..invest in groomin..u wld realise tat altho gers wun come flockin to u..at least they wun run off when they see u also...be able to hold a decent conversation with anyone is also a plus..at least for me now..tho i might not have alot of ladies luck..at least i still hv gers who come +++kin to me and askin me out for lunch..when my close female frds hv any trouble..they wld +++ to me when sometimes they wun even tell their bf

in this sense..i believed i am blessed..at least there are still pple whom i can care for tho not in a bf/gf sort of way..i believe the most basic reason why we are in a relationship is becoz humans hv a basic need to care for pple..

juz my humble views..at least if really a loser..i can still be a lovable loser :o

[vesfreq]

Each time after a failed attempt (i couldn't even consider it a relationship cos usually i'm no more than a fren to the gal i like), it would take some time for me to nurse my wound before picking myself up and initiate another friendship with a gal i fancy .................................... only to meet with another failure

sometimes i feel like some shady characters living along the borderline of the society, constantly subjected to failures and plagued by depression..
You are not alone. I feel so disgusted with romance these days. Even the last time I dated a girl, I felt like just going to a race track alone and rev the engine for a good few rounds.

Everything out on a date .... is about spending. Ultimately, its just about who can spend and do more for the girl. I'm just that kind of guy who gets easily distracted. See new car, change heart easily. But, diff is that it only takes one girl to reciprocate and make me feel wanted. :(

I know myself that the girl I like has to reciprocate. Once she stops reciprocating, I would drift away, like a log in the river without direction. Only thing I look forward to is going to the car for a spin, rather than wasting time and money on uninteresting girls.

Last thing you want to know is that the girl you are interested in has been sleeping around. Its possibly a social norm. But, so long you are a guy, you won't likely tolerate such stuff.

[freedom]

i think nowaday there is not real love
love these days are all about money
ger now a day only take from you and never give.
got sick of it:(
this is my point of view

[giggz83]

Last thing you want to know is that the girl you are interested in has been sleeping around. Its possibly a social norm. But, so long you are a guy, you won't likely tolerate such stuff.

totally agree with you!

I myself still love my ex-gf a lot .. but she has a bf now. well, being a MCP myself.. i really cant think of what "CCA" they have done, i cant tolerate it.
i mean ... who can! rite?

but on the other hand. who am i to say yes or no?

haiz.. :(

[freedom]

totally agree with you!

I myself still love my ex-gf a lot .. but she has a bf now. well, being a MCP myself.. i really cant think of what "CCA" they have done, i cant tolerate it.
i mean ... who can! rite?

but on the other hand. who am i to say yes or no?

haiz.. :(

what can we do?
we are nobody to them anymore.
not even a friend i guess
LL suck thumb only

[giggz83]

what can we do?
we are nobody to them anymore.
not even a friend i guess
LL suck thumb only

hahaha.. wtf ..

bro, you very perssimistic leh!!! cannot.

i agree with the not even a friend part. but suck thumb. NO. fuck it man, i dont care..

i remember when i was with her .. so what we fuck every now and then .. still break up .. they're still in honeymoon period. its ok.

for me .. in the meanwhile see got any pretty girl anot . can sian, sian .. cannot .. nvm.

build up a career 1st. girl will then automatically come. :D

[freedom]

hahaha.. wtf ..

bro, you very perssimistic leh!!! cannot.

i agree with the not even a friend part. but suck thumb. NO. fuck it man, i dont care..

i remember when i was with her .. so what we fuck every now and then .. still break up .. they're still in honeymoon period. its ok.

for me .. in the meanwhile see got any pretty girl anot . can sian, sian .. cannot .. nvm.

build up a career 1st. girl will then automatically come. :D
ya i know but soon you will get sick of ger coming to you cause they give you the feel that they love your money no you yourself.
got really sick of it :(

[giggz83]

ya i know but soon you will get sick of ger coming to you cause they give you the feel that they love your money no you yourself.
got really sick of it :(

hahaha.. erm. $$ .. i not very rich lah..

but the prob is that she left me bcos, of mostly religious diff. well, she seems like very happy with her now bf.

but its ok .. its honeymoon period. can wait.

sometimes, i jus wonder .. why all my friend their ex will come back to them sometime down the road. and whens my turn? :)

[freedom]

hahaha.. erm. $$ .. i not very rich lah..

but the prob is that she left me bcos, of mostly religious diff. well, she seems like very happy with her now bf.

but its ok .. its honeymoon period. can wait.

sometimes, i jus wonder .. why all my friend their ex will come back to them sometime down the road. and whens my turn? :)
nowaday ger look for money only
haiz sick of this shit
where is the freedom of love
free from money frame and looks
anyway good for ur friends
but i am sure that my turn wont be here
not even in my after life
hope yours will come soon

[playboy82]

nowaday ger look for money only
haiz sick of this shit
where is the freedom of love
free from money frame and looks
anyway good for ur friends
but i am sure that my turn wont be here
not even in my after life
hope yours will come soon

damn right, nowaday every single gal whether pretty or not will always hav guys buzzing ard them, and ask them out for a date is like " see how lor, if tml no programme then i let u know ", u will never be their 1st priority. But i am glad that i hav started this thread, aty least i can know so many bros here in the same boat as me... Cheers. Lets keep this thread alive. And nowadays i can hardly differentiate between love and lust anymore, it become so bloody blur, and i really dun know wat the fuck this world has turn into, where the gal u love will not love but instead choose for some ah beng.
Now, i dun really know wat i want in life anymore, Car? House? money? i am feeling so empty, can $$ buy compainonship? I do feel very tire of living actually, but the tot of my parent, i still need to support them, to be failial to them.The question at the end is still this, wats the meaning of life.

[freedom]

damn right, nowaday every single gal whether pretty or not will always hav guys buzzing ard them, and ask them out for a date is like " see how lor, if tml no programme then i let u know ", u will never be their 1st priority. But i am glad that i hav started this thread, aty least i can know so many bros here in the same boat as me... Cheers. Lets keep this thread alive. And nowadays i can hardly differentiate between love and lust anymore, it become so bloody blur, and i really dun know wat the fuck this world has turn into, where the gal u love will not love but instead choose for some ah beng.
Now, i dun really know wat i want in life anymore, Car? House? money? i am feeling so empty, can $$ buy compainonship? I do feel very tire of living actually, but the tot of my parent, i still need to support them, to be failial to them.The question at the end is still this, wats the meaning of life.
i agree with you bro
we ask ourselve what is our purpose of this life and what is our destiny.
when we found our destiny or purpose of life it turn out to a false destiny/purpose and we puke back into darkness.
to be honest i think this world is sick in some ways
nowaday ger look for $$ only
love is rare now
good woman are taken or KIA

anyway count me in to keep this thread alive but i will come in on the weekends only

[giggz83]

actually ... theres more to the meaning of life.

its not as though no girl then thats the end.
you can be a religiously upright person, a morally correct person, a academically strived person, a sporting person, a career driven person or a family oriented person.

its just that which category you belong to .. well, though as easy as it may seems to be, but the truth is far from it.

i believed that someday, someone will come along .. if we're nt picky then probably .. we can put an end to singlehood. but sometimes, since we got alot of choices .. why not go for the better one? isnt it..

well, maybe thats why. so in the meantime ...

good luck to me and good luck to you bros out there!! :D

[jinrenhe]

Bro Jinheren

like most, if not everyone, i crave for a stable relationship..at the end of a workday..got a voice to +++ to and on weekend.a someone to go out with..but somehow things have not been workin out for me the past 2 years..mayb its juz retribution but then again..u cant wish for love to happen..tats y its called fallin in love..



Yes that's the feeling... that someone whom i could look forward to meeting after a long day at school or work. During weekends, someone i can plan activities like watching movie, eating supper with... these stuff seems so natural to most ppl, but to me, it's like a impossible dream...

And that feeling of being "un-loved" jus gets worse during special occasion like xmas etc where everywhere in orchard road u see couples happily in love..
stay at home nothing to do, thought go shopping around to 散心, but usually end feeling moody after seeing other couples.. haha.
when u are alone, sometimes u really feel there's no place on earth for u

But, diff is that it only takes one girl to reciprocate and make me feel wanted.

I know myself that the girl I like has to reciprocate. Once she stops reciprocating, I would drift away, like a log in the river without direction. Only thing I look forward to is going to the car for a spin, rather than wasting time and money on uninteresting girls.

But, diff is that it only takes one girl to reciprocate and make me feel wanted. :(



And yes, usually the only place i can seek solace is my car, driving along the expressway with my fav music playing in the background.... haha but that's how sometimes end up driving into Geylang and xxxx :D

bro, i understand that feeling.... it doesn't bother me how much effort it requires, like driving across the island from east (where i live) to send her home in Jurong west, buying breakfast & wait at the bus-stop for her.... but it rely breaks me when i realized she's just not into me

All i need is abit of response & encouragment, that's enough to spur me on despite any obstacles.... but alas, what's discouraging i realized she's not remotely interested in me...

[Goondamit]

Have a gf and when I talk to her about love, she is told me that there is no more love in this world but money. Without money there is no love. I guess this is what most girl feels this days..... came across this statement " Money is like a fuel, without it how to keep the love burning?"

[playboy82]

[QUOTE=jinrenhe]Yes that's the feeling... that someone whom i could look forward to meeting after a long day at school or work. During weekends, someone i can plan activities like watching movie, eating supper with... these stuff seems so natural to most ppl, but to me, it's like a impossible dream...

And that feeling of being "un-loved" jus gets worse during special occasion like xmas etc where everywhere in orchard road u see couples happily in love..
stay at home nothing to do, thought go shopping around to 散心, but usually end feeling moody after seeing other couples.. haha.
when u are alone, sometimes u really feel there's no place on earth for u



Ya, then when u out shopping alone, u will scare u bump into ur friends or colleuge, cos you afraid that they know u are alone shopping. And so, weekend, we will have no where to go, other than stay at home n surf sammy boy.

[Hanzy]

Ya, then when u out shopping alone, u will scare u bump into ur friends or colleuge, cos you afraid that they know u are alone shopping. And so, weekend, we will have no where to go, other than stay at home n surf sammy boy.

ya! and they usually will ask u "你一个人啊" "u alone" den u have to think whether to say the truth or not.. if say u alone, they will give u that kind of look.. machiam ur anti social or wat.. juz feel urself as kinda pathetic..

actually imo, for those who are looking for their soulmate.. or has the will to fight for their happiness.. means they love themself.. has the abilities to give her the happiness i think.. for mi.. eventhough i may like someone and if she reciprocate the feelings, i might nid to think twice... as i dowan to be burder to her in the future.. and that she will find someone better.. lack of confidence? i dono.. juz tat dowan to waste other ppl's time? not sure whether share the same feeling..

[Deztruct]

Is there really true love?

Well if true love is about

1. stayin up at abt 3am after a tiring day at work and goin to a concert after work..
2. come back..just wan to bath n sleep..but
3. ur ex online and she confide in you tat she has a problem with her bf..
4. spend the whole nite consoling her
5. while still hv to wake up for work tmw..

well..if true love is like this..yeah..there is true love then

[Herich]

ya, i bet a lot of ppl are also the same boat as us, and the truth is, i am not fat or short, and with basic looks... but jus have no luck with love.. Think if there are past life,, then i must be a very wildful playboy so to result in this life, cannot get the gal i want.

Indeed, there are many so called decent looking and eligible men out there who just have no luck with love. I would say i am one of them. but come to think of it, at least we guys can go GL to enjoy the brief moments of 虚幻 or 虚假 的 'love' through sexual intimacy. There are many more single women out there who may never have sex in their whole lives. I feel that our women 'counterparts' are having it worse than us.

[vesfreq]

And yes, usually the only place i can seek solace is my car, driving along the expressway with my fav music playing in the background.... haha but that's how sometimes end up driving into Geylang and xxxx :D

bro, i understand that feeling.... it doesn't bother me how much effort it requires, like driving across the island from east (where i live) to send her home in Jurong west, buying breakfast & wait at the bus-stop for her.... but it rely breaks me when i realized she's just not into me

All i need is abit of response & encouragment, that's enough to spur me on despite any obstacles.... but alas, what's discouraging i realized she's not remotely interested in me...

Omg..... I'm also dating a girl and she is also like not even remotely interested at all. Replies from her (via sms) is always like so slow most of the time. When call her, she say prefer to sms. But, when I sms, she gives me this feeling that she is doing other .... stuff like talking with her other guy friends. I'm not jealous, but just feel like a fool in the dating game.

Go home that time after dating, that feeling of kenna carrot again is just unmistakable. I also play my fave mp3s, but initial D tracks with volume on full blast. :D Occasional jam the accelerator or burn some rubber tires.

Unlike you, I don't need anything to spur me on. Only need money to spur me on .... but to buy a sports car. Spent enough money on dating. Some pals were telling me that dating is a kind of investment. I don't agree (but some bros might say otherwise), cos' you don't really know the person you are dating and, by the time all the money go in, gal may NOT be the right person.

But, money throw in car sure no mistake. For 10 years, the car becomes a mistress at ur beck and call. No emotions involved. Once have enough, can scrap for new mistress. But, women .... after 10 years, u scrap, kenna big time (probably have to throw in some alimony too). Car scrap early, at most kena rule of 78 and some painful (but temporal) depreciation cost. At the end of 10 years, if like the car very much, still can renew COE. Have a look at the old Civic (so old), but still running on the roads. But, for women, end of 10 years, buay song, still must tahan. Worse still, even if you want to keep her, she don't want you. Pay for car siong, but pay for unfaithful girl lagi worse. On top of that, find someone faithful (not say pretty or pleasant) also not easy.

No doubt its nice to have someone that you like ...... but sometimes life really unfair. Some people made to wait like donkeys. Others wait an eternity and get nothing. A few lucky guys get to wait only a few days for the right one. Some just see their right one, the day they go school. The last group of guys (including me) are simply the suay ones, never get anything they like. At least, got car in mscp. ......

[vesfreq]

ya! and they usually will ask u "你一个人啊" "u alone" den u have to think whether to say the truth or not.. if say u alone, they will give u that kind of look.. machiam ur anti social or wat.. juz feel urself as kinda pathetic..


Its stupid one. I seldom go go shopping. Spend all my time working. From morning to late evening.

No one here is anti-social. See the number of posts and replies. :D Maybe, all of us decent guys should stop dating. Save the money for kopi or geylang. If those Singapore women see this thread, it will be the greatest horror of their lives.

IMO, for the guys who replied in this thread, most of them are just nice chaps in person, but just lack a listening ear from the women. If only women can stop throwing sutle hints/ obvious hints/ very obvious hints, that would ve solved the problem of misunderstanding. But, I raise my white flag. Rather spend time solving literature riddles than trying to decipher the women's petty habits and patterns. After working 1 long day, by the time reach my door, its 10.20pm, where got energy to think about entertaining women.............

[Manofwar]

Might exist but kinda of rare for true love ba as gals now mostly are xiang qian kan a.k.a Looking forward for $$$.

[vesfreq]

Might exist but kinda of rare for true love ba as gals now mostly are xiang qian kan a.k.a Looking forward for $$$.

Soon, we will all be looking for foreign talent. :D Philipino/ viet/ PRCs/ Indos, whats ur preference? lol.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

Soon, we will all be looking for foreign talent. :D Philipino/ viet/ PRCs/ Indos, whats ur preference? lol.

PRCs or viets for me.anyway was reading at ur posts,agree with some of the pts including being anti-social,i am certain if possible no one wish or like to be alone if given a choice.life is abt keeping urself occupied when there is no one else.happiness may be just there silently waiting for u.just dont stop on the searching.:)

[brandy_sex]

Bro, is all depend on individual. Some believe in love at first sight, some believe no true love, some believe in no everlasting love.

That is a say:
there are 3 rings, Engargement RING, Wedding RING then Suffer RING.

[Kyser Soze]

Soon, we will all be looking for foreign talent. Philipino/ viet/ PRCs/ Indos, whats ur preference? lol.
I think I will answer our garment's call to attract foreign talents. :D Maybe PRCs will be a good choice. I mean decent ones, not FLs please. Fair, smooth-skin and pretty. To top it all, less demanding. To the PRC gals, SG men are rich, refined and one notch higher than their PRC men. To our SG gals, SG men are poor, immature, insensitive and one notch lower than ang-mohs. :eek: Haizzz... comparisons is a killer in judging one's quality and inner beauty.

[hoho99]

Wah, can see a lot of ppl here feeling very tired after looking for a soulmate for a very long time.Hope all will find their true love in time. But please open your heart and mind when going in search. Please note that you are looking for a soulmate, not a bonk buddy, so looks should not be top in the list and you will suddenly realise that there is someone out there waiting for you and in fact she's nearer to you than you think.

Let me share my story. Like many, I also thought that my love will never come. I’m fat, no $$$, not nice looking at all, and all the time if a female come looking for me, it's always abt their matters of the heart or work. My troubles I’ve to talk to the sky. I did go after girls but either they are not interested or end up with some other guy. During that period i wonder how come some jerks or ah beng always end up with pretty girls while we who slog away ends up with nothing. The world seems unfair then.

But miracle do happens. One fine day when I’m coming out of my workplace, there she is, just coming out of her workplace too. She’s not pretty, some would consider her a plain jane, and is plum. We greet each other and exchange a few kind words and that’s it, she somehow captures a place in my heart. We did not talk to each other for a while after that. It’s until a few mths later when we had a chance to take supper together that we share more about ourselves (She even abt knows my activity in Geylang and Ktvs). Believe it or not what happens in the next 10 days later seems like a blur. She dumps her Bf, and ends up with me. My friends told me not to expect too much as she may be acting on impulse but we’ve been to for more than 3 yrs now. I’m fatter now, almost 100 kg, and poorer now, look shabbier than before, yet she still stick by me.

So all single guys out there please believe that someone is still waiting for you. She may not be beautiful, can shake a few moves like the girls in pubs nor very capable at work but at least she will stays by you through thick and thin. So all the best to you ppl, eye open big big ah. Sorry for being so long winded.

[powDerful]

my frds n colleagues always tot tat i got i noe tat i am being stupid for continuing on..but at the end of the day i tell myself..the decision is made by myself..even if the consequences is tat i wld b hurt ultimately..i still willl accept it..everythin little thing i do for her..i juz wan her to be happy..she need not reciprocate my feelings..mayb this is not true love..i juz being stubborn to hold on to this relationship but at least everythin i did for her is unconditional


Dear Deztruct,

I will be very blunt over here. No offence intended.

It seems very obvious to me (based on your story) that this gal is very lonely, and needs someone to be with her 24hrs * 365days. During weekends, she will not sms u, but during weekdays she will sms u like crazy. It seems obvious that she either likes you, or she treats u like a spare tyre, when her boyfriend is not around.

If I were in your shoe, I will try not to get so close to her. Or I will just tell her that I love u so much, so it's either him or me. Let her take a long hard look and think who can give her more happiness. So u must be prepared to either win the gal over, or u lost her! Go go go!

But then, u nv know how many guys she has been sms on her mobile right? She might also be smsing to other guys as well as you. This kinda person, very smart one, might be 1 leg on two boats. Be careful mate! :D

On the other hand, for godness sake. Dun waste time on your ex bullshit on whether she having problems with her bf anot lah. This is honestly my advise. Tell her to shut the fuck up and get the hell out of your life. Delete your ex from your msn list and continue finding your true love. If someone who breaks up with you prevoiusly, still want to share with you on how her bf treats her, she sucks. Waste of time, might as well take the time to sleep!

I am sorry if I am being so direct, because I do not have writing skills like others who can beat around the bush and write in a more better manner than me. Best of luck to your tackling of gals!

[freedom]

i have to agree with you on this bro.
ger nowaday are like that
they see who is better for them and they will dump their current bf and got for the new guy or else they will just stick to you till they find a new one.

i think your ex is not been fair to you. feel like she is using you.
to you, you may think it worth it but to other you are been used
think about it

[iamsodamsianz]

ya i agree with bro hoho99
i myself am just finding a girl who is willing to go through the downs n ups with me.
think that is the most impt thing i will look for in a girl

[playboy82]

Actually i am very tired already... been trying to search and search, and after so many fail attempt. Its not a single blow that wear me out, but rather all the small crush, disappointment, rejection, bad experiences accumulate together tat punch me right in the face, a hard one. Think i am Tian Sha Ku Xing, since young, i am not popular with gals and not those types that all the friends will gather ard or the centre of attention, maybe thats my life, and i have to face it.

[vesfreq]

I think I will answer our garment's call to attract foreign talents. Maybe PRCs will be a good choice. I mean decent ones, not FLs please. Fair, smooth-skin and pretty. To top it all, less demanding. To the PRC gals, SG men are rich, refined and one notch higher than their PRC men. To our SG gals, SG men are poor, immature, insensitive and one notch lower than ang-mohs. Haizzz... comparisons is a killer in judging one's quality and inner beauty.

FTs are good what. :D Cheap, affordable and most importantly .... Good!

PRCs are definitely worth considering. In terms of maintenance and running cost (like car. lol), its much more sustainable than a local gal. After dating a couple of local gals, I only can conclude that I cannot afford to have a singapore gf, not that i have no money, but satisfying a singapore gal always seem to mean having to spend on a 1001 unimaginable things, ranging from Pradas to Guess.

Getting a local gf is like buying a COE car, cos' you never know what other 1001 hidden "costs" are lying beneath the purchase.

[vesfreq]

i have to agree with you on this bro.
ger nowaday are like that
they see who is better for them and they will dump their current bf and got for the new guy or else they will just stick to you till they find a new one.

i think your ex is not been fair to you. feel like she is using you.
to you, you may think it worth it but to other you are been used
think about it

Bro, ever heard the famous saying that goes "Girls marry up and they don't marry down".

Whether ex or not, she is just another cunt :D (no offense, its just a lame joke). Girls all the same one. Once you eat one cunt, the rest taste about the same. Girls are there for someone to take care of them, while guys just need someone to be with them.

A gal posted a reply in my friendster blog and said, "guys are hard to understand". In the 1st place, girls don't think with any logic. IMO, by trying to understand them, it necessarily degrades one's ability to reason and apply logic.

Forest so big. If not enough tree, can always get new ones. While in Rome, do what the Romans do. While in the jungles, do what our neighbours do. If tree no good, BURN! :p

[Deztruct]

Dear Deztruct,

I will be very blunt over here. No offence intended.

I am sorry if I am being so direct, because I do not have writing skills like others who can beat around the bush and write in a more better manner than me. Best of luck to your tackling of gals!

No worries..actually what you told me is nothing new also. some of my friends hv told me the same thing also..the thing is that everything is juz one side of the story..my side..i might neva noe wat she think..mayb she doesnt feel a thing or mayb she is feelin worse? Juz bcoz she neva reveal how she feel..it doesnt mean tat she is happier

Mayb u are rite..i am juz one of the many boats she is stepping on..she is juz afraid of lonely..but still..i rather be juz an extra and be there for her than not being there for her at all..the same applies for my ex case as well...i not being noble or an saint here..i juz believe in fairytales..not for myself but for her..to me..the joy comes not from hving a fairytale happening to urself but rather in creating fairytales for others..

Lately coz of an incident..i really dun wan to think anymore le..everytime think will hv an headache..i rather do hsework than to think abt the situation now..let nature goes thru its course..chances are things will juz continue this way..i wun try to do anything more..juz continue to do things which i believe is rite..and if its really for the beta..i believed tat i will be rewarded for it in some way or another

*rather love the love tat hurts than to hurt the love that loves*

[KumGongKia]

Wah didn't know got so many like-minded people here....

Most of the peps here do talk a lot of sense about living life to the fullest. Thinking and dwelling about "where is my true love when others are enjoying it" is not going to make it happen. Think like some bros has said: Keep yourself occupied.

Weekdays already busy at work until almost no time to sleep. Then everytime complain weekend too short cos it's monday once again. Thinking too much and indulging in self-pity on your only two free days is really a waste of life. Learnt this through the "hard way" myself. Love is a big part of life but NOT all of it.

All in all, staying happy is the crux of everything. Work hard and reward yourself with new clothes, new car or new house. Since no love life yet so can save the money. Afterall, how sad can one gets if you have saved enough to buy yourself a 3series coupe cabriolet, cruising down the road with the top open. (sorry for being so material:D )

[playboy82]

Wah didn't know got so many like-minded people here....

Most of the peps here do talk a lot of sense about living life to the fullest. Thinking and dwelling about "where is my true love when others are enjoying it" is not going to make it happen. Think like some bros has said: Keep yourself occupied.

Weekdays already busy at work until almost no time to sleep. Then everytime complain weekend too short cos it's monday once again. Thinking too much and indulging in self-pity on your only two free days is really a waste of life. Learnt this through the "hard way" myself. Love is a big part of life but NOT all of it.

All in all, staying happy is the crux of everything. Work hard and reward yourself with new clothes, new car or new house. Since no love life yet so can save the money. Afterall, how sad can one gets if you have saved enough to buy yourself a 3series coupe cabriolet, cruising down the road with the top open. (sorry for being so material:D )


Hmm.. i suppose i have the same thinking as u too, if dun have a good and caring wife / gf, then i will divert my attention to Quality of life, like a car, house, or other materials will will improve our current standard of living.

[sacs]

damn right, nowaday every single gal whether pretty or not will always hav guys buzzing ard them, and ask them out for a date is like " see how lor, if tml no programme then i let u know ", u will never be their 1st priority. But i am glad that i hav started this thread, aty least i can know so many bros here in the same boat as me... Cheers. Lets keep this thread alive. And nowadays i can hardly differentiate between love and lust anymore, it become so bloody blur, and i really dun know wat the fuck this world has turn into, where the gal u love will not love but instead choose for some ah beng.
Now, i dun really know wat i want in life anymore, Car? House? money? i am feeling so empty, can $$ buy compainonship? I do feel very tire of living actually, but the tot of my parent, i still need to support them, to be failial to them.The question at the end is still this, wats the meaning of life.

From my Pt of view, I think local gals are not contented with what they have. Growing up in spore for so many years and with the education they get, they know that they could ask for more in a guy and they are nvr contented even if they have a car, house, etc..... they just wan more.

But for gals like in viet or thai, they are very easily contented with the life they will get in spore. The fact being that they come from a poor family back home, what could they ask for more when they are living well in spore.

Of cos, there are still some handful gd local gals left, but must have been grab by others le. haha.....

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

Of cos, there are still some handful gd local gals left, but must have been grab by others le. haha.....

ya lor,i always thought so.this world confirm have gd gals de but all happily attached liao..:(

[sacs]

ya lor,i always thought so.this world confirm have gd gals de but all happily attached liao..:(


haha, ya lor........ sometimes i see those babes or SYT with another ah beng, i was like, what does she see in him? bigger Co*k?? gals like bad guys? or what? haha....

So now, i can spend a few hundred bucks buying things for myself, but seriously, if u ask me to spend that kind of $ on a gal, I will think twice. Can't they afford themselves? if they can't, then dun have so much high expectation of their bf.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

haha, ya lor........ sometimes i see those babes or SYT with another ah beng, i was like, what does she see in him? bigger Co*k?? gals like bad guys? or what? haha....

.

havent u heard of this phrase:Nan ren bu huai,nu ren bu ai?;)

[rodeo77]

Lastly, be very careful that you don't fall for an FL. Don't take this the wrong way, but, you can be very vulnerable to an FL at this stage. They give you the Gf feeling but their intention is not to make you bf no. 1 but maybe no.3 or no.4. A lot believe (like us too!), they need "spare tyres". A "Bf" is useful to them because of things like showing off to their friends, using you for favours like buying food, taking them out, and of course taking your hard earned cash.Best of luck!I think those Bros who are currently in KC trap should view this seriously. Think with your big head and not the samll one ;)

[boysaigon]

to be fair to the FL...most of them also kana cheated by their so-called bfs before...they also, like most of us, still dreaming of finding their true love but after a few bad experience, they also see broken and op for the more reliable "material" option like most are advising here.

In this material world, it takes 02 fools to be truely and deeply in love.

but, i do agree that lots of sg gals are behaving like FL...they demand lots of material comfort from the bfs and would switch lane without thinking more than 0.003 sec if there is a bigger car avail...they NEVER agree to being labeled 'materialistic' or would deny till their last breath if anyone would call them 'money face'. They onli want class, want their bf to have face...so they ask for LV bag, Maldives holiday, fast car, slow food, ...etc..as if all these stuffs are door gifts from PAP sponsored programs....:rolleyes:

...there are good one oso la...you go spend 1$ buy toto also can kana 2 millions mah. same theory lor.

anyhow, i still a stuborn believer la. but it takes 2...

boy

[natsuki]

Lastly, be very careful that you don't fall for an FL. Don't take this the wrong way, but, you can be very vulnerable to an FL at this stage. They give you the Gf feeling but their intention is not to make you bf no. 1 but maybe no.3 or no.4. A lot believe (like us too!), they need "spare tyres". A "Bf" is useful to them because of things like showing off to their friends, using you for favours like buying food, taking them out, and of course taking your hard earned cash.
Best of luck!

Erm... I know, 以我的身份，可能不应该在这里说话。 但是。。。Every FL is like every normal girl out there. Who don't want people to love and care for them? Like everyone too, FLs need someone to be there for them... But... Why some guys only have bad reviews on FLs? If someone comment not to fall for FLs, does it mean that all FLs are not fit for being love? Cuz the impression of FLs in ur heart is already so bad... FLs don't even deserve a little love and care? Girls may be too practical, but do girls started to be so practical? However, no one bother to know how come girls are like this. This topic been brought up many times already.

If guys think that all girls are 'materialistic', then how come girls are being so 'materialistic'? Yes, for FL, U have the money u can find FLs. But who like to be FL? U think every FL start off smoothly? Then when they wanna be FL, they juz be it? No one cares or bother about it. Guys only blames to be cheated by girls, but how about girls? Girls never got cheated by guys before? How many times girls need to learn their lesson till they become smart? Or maybe materialist? How many emotional break downs have they suffered? Who cares?

When u ended up in a hotel with a FL, u pay, u do, u leave. That's all. Isn't it better? U all blame FLs to be so 'money face' but without money, what we have in the end? At least a form of security. Some girls don't buy LV, don't spend on expensive Hps, don't go for holidays... This type of girls also being materialistic? They don't require bfs to give them this or that, all they want is just a simple trust and faith in the guys. But how many guys can actually fulfilled it?

One scenario, this girl got cheated by her bf, she is left with nothing. Despair, grief-stricken and helpless, left with nothing at all! What could she do? Why give guys free sex? How stupid she think herself is? The guy leave her, what will she be left with? If the guy is really idiotic enough to spread around stuff like she is easily or she is loose? Doing sex with bf doesn't mean she must be a loose girl, but some girls give in easily to guys cuz they scare to lost the guys... Why should girls deserve such treatment? After losing hope in guys, being a FL may be a better choice.



Just my little comment... So sorry if i sound rude... :)
Take care...

[Kyser Soze]

One scenario, this girl got cheated by her bf, she is left with nothing. Despair, grief-stricken and helpless, left with nothing at all! What could she do? Why give guys free sex? How stupid she think herself is? The guy leave her, what will she be left with? If the guy is really idiotic enough to spread around stuff like she is easily or she is loose? Doing sex with bf doesn't mean she must be a loose girl, but some girls give in easily to guys cuz they scare to lost the guys... Why should girls deserve such treatment? After losing hope in guys, being a FL may be a better choice.

Just my little comment... So sorry if i sound rude... :)
Take care...
Relax, sis... Different strokes different lives. Everyone has his own views. Strictly speaking, there is nothing absolutely right or wrong. Those who are serious in a relationship will definitely give in totally with passion, meaning even sacrificing one's valuable asset. In terms of assets, a man's point of view can be different from a girl's. For a man, it is definitely the money. For a girl, the asset is... her body. :D

[giggz83]

After losing hope in guys, being a FL may be a better choice.
Take care...

no. being a FL is never a better choice. even if all the guys in the world dont want you. being a FL is never a choice. and why should it be? in the first place.

be optimistic, one day, it might be your day .. everyone are waiting for their turn. just like you and me. your turn will come, just dont knw when.

so in the meantime .. stay positive .. work hard. earn more $ .. see the world. we're still in this small dot. see the world, look far.

theres more meaning to life than we think it is.

good luck

[natsuki]

so in the meantime .. stay positive .. work hard. earn more $ .. see the world. we're still in this small dot. see the world, look far.

theres more meaning to life than we think it is.

good luck

Thank you. Anyway, maybe i type too fast and abit hard to understand... I mean, sometimes i also don't understand wat am i typing. But I hope u do get what i mean in my last post. I mean if giving the guy free sex and have nothing in the end and the guy juz hit and run, lugi... So, at least being a FL is better... At least there's no string attach, then u get money and u could save up... :)


Relax, sis... Different strokes different lives. Everyone has his own views. Strictly speaking, there is nothing absolutely right or wrong. Those who are serious in a relationship will definitely give in totally with passion, meaning even sacrificing one's valuable asset. In terms of assets, a man's point of view can be different from a girl's. For a man, it is definitely the money. For a girl, the asset is... her body.

Maybe... Who knows??? Relac relac, yeah i'm okay. Certainly fine. Thank you. Well, i do agree with there are no definate answer in everything. But most people tend to classify all FLs together. Not all are really that bad... U understand what i mean?:(

[vesfreq]

haha, ya lor........ sometimes i see those babes or SYT with another ah beng, i was like, what does she see in him? bigger Co*k?? gals like bad guys? or what? haha....

So now, i can spend a few hundred bucks buying things for myself, but seriously, if u ask me to spend that kind of $ on a gal, I will think twice. Can't they afford themselves? if they can't, then dun have so much high expectation of their bf.

Women feed on men. Their spendthrift ways is the beginning of their man's end. :(

If you can afford that kind of money on a materialistic gal, better buy a 3 series and show off at the club. Who knows you get lucky. Gals are materialistic, so why not lets just get a prestigious ride and grab some ladies at the club. Gals enjoy it lah. They know it. :D

The feeling between bf drive picanto and a showy bf driving a 3 series. Its only human for the gal to fall for the latter. No doubts about that. I always remember the ladies in my company yakking about finding gold turtle and, after bonus, all of them look better...... for obvious reasons.

To quote a lecturer, "Without women, the world economy would ve collapsed." Guess we (guys) still owe the gals a living. lol.

[giggz83]

i beg to differ ...

there are still good girls around .. not all girls are materialistic.

why not put it this way .. lets call them practical? practical as in kids need money .. house need money .. utilities need money .. living together sure need money.

not all girl would want a big house .. nor do they crave for big cars .. nor good food nor a maid to serve them.

i believe girls just need quality time and attention from us .. men. to listen to them .. to give a listening ear when they need to. to be there for them when they need us to.

i believe its that simple. as for material stuffs are just icing on the cake. if you got it will be better .. if no, then nvm

you need someone to take the mrt with you when your car breaks down .. isnt it? :)

[jinrenhe]

IMO, for the guys who replied in this thread, most of them are just nice chaps in person, but just lack a listening ear from the women. .........


There’s always this widely-held perception that single guys who go for prostitutes must be some hideous-looking, socially awkward loser… the fact is most are just nice, decent people who perhaps just lack that bit of luck in love and relationship :cool:

[jinrenhe]

i beg to differ ...

there are still good girls around .. not all girls are materialistic.

you need someone to take the mrt with you when your car breaks down .. isnt it?

Yup... i dun rely agree with the "reality" that most local gals are materialistic and go for guys with money & fast car. Maybe it's cos of my environment..i've a few gal frens who are simply sweet & caring homely type of gals, the kind u can't help but feel like falling for her. But alas, the "reality" is also like what bro shuang jie gun put it haha

ya lor,i always thought so.this world confirm have gd gals de but all happily attached liao..

The most heart ache reality is not that there are no good gals around, definitely have one, just that it's for everyone else, not meant for me :(

[Deztruct]

Just like to share 2 songs with pple here

Just the way you are - Billy Joel

Don't go changing, to try and please me
You never let me down before
Don't imagine you're too familiar
And I don't see you anymore
I wouldn't leave you in times of trouble
We never could have come this far
I took the good times, I'll take the bad times
I'll take you just the way you are

Don't go trying some new fashion
Don't change the color of your hair
You always have my unspoken passion
Although I might not seem to care

I don't want clever conversation
I never want to work that hard
I just want someone that I can talk to
I want you just the way you are.

I need to know that you will always be
The same old someone that I knew
What will it take 'til you believe in me
The way that I believe in you.

I said I love you, and that's forever
And this I promise from the heart
I could not love you any better
I love you just the way you are.

爱一直闪亮 - 罗美玲

我一个人的沙发上 还有你拥抱的力量
起身才看见孤独的形状 在空气里曝光
明明是咖啡不加糖 怎么喝还是懒洋洋
你不在的天气装了开关 碰到天就黑暗
我以为爱一直闪亮 现在剩一个人坚强
想念在手中 张开变翅膀
我还懂不懂飞翔(忘记了我懂飞翔)
我看见爱一直在闪亮
想逃的心改变了方向
只因这城市情歌太悲伤
才让一碗热汤 红了眼框
电视里爱情播不完
怎么转才能离开现场
如果我承认你让我很难忘
结局能不能换

[Deztruct]

There’s always this widely-held perception that single guys who go for prostitutes must be some hideous-looking, socially awkward loser… the fact is most are just nice, decent people who perhaps just lack that bit of luck in love and relationship :cool:

Haha..maybe pple who hv this perception noe me personally..i admit i am hideous looking, socially awkward loser..not nice n decent at all

[vesfreq]

Haha..maybe pple who hv this perception noe me personally..i admit i am hideous looking, socially awkward loser..not nice n decent at all

What hideous looking? Even the most hideous looking can find someone. Remember the fairy tale "Beauty and the Beast", its something that really happens today. But, these days .... its more like "Beauty and the Ah Beng Kia". :rolleyes:

[Deztruct]

What hideous looking? Even the most hideous looking can find someone. Remember the fairy tale "Beauty and the Beast", its something that really happens today. But, these days .... its more like "Beauty and the Ah Beng Kia". :rolleyes:

I can only ur siggy to ans u back

I'm not an idealist, but one who had an irrevocable contract with faith. Being cynical is not a choice, but a result of idealisms which had failed man too often. A lack of faith is not only due to failures, but caused by man's decision not to have faith, as well.

[DenmarkDoll]

As usual, nothing will last.

Enjoy while u could. Just learn this logic from a fren. Although i hope this time it can last. Haha.

Enjoy. :)




p/s: Juz came bac frm out-stationing... sorry... pm will be reply accordingly. sincerely apologise to every bro who pmed. dui bu qi...

[jinrenhe]

Haha..maybe pple who hv this perception noe me personally..i admit i am hideous looking, socially awkward loser..not nice n decent at all

bro, the fact that there are still gals who come & ask u go for a meal shows u are none of the above... :)

The gals i like almost NEVER contact me before .... sometimes i was jus wondering say one day i meet with an accident & die, they wouldn't even know since they virtually never contact me...

sometimes i wonder what makes that difference in the quality of life amongst people. like some people are born with rich & doting parents, some may have gambling & abusive parents.

some people jus have that beautiful, devoted & caring girlfriend without having to put in much effort. some people, despite the best of intention & effort, seem to be perpetually struggling with rejection & loneliness...

But i guess that's what it's called Life ....

[littlelephant]

There’s always this widely-held perception that single guys who go for prostitutes must be some hideous-looking, socially awkward loser… the fact is most are just nice, decent people who perhaps just lack that bit of luck in love and relationship :cool:
Not really true some single guys who go for pros are also well to do very yan dao and are charming people who are not losers and have pretty good relationship with luck in love but just chose to have different lifestyles and a different side dish with the free time and money that they have.

End of the day money makes the world go round, we work for money these girls work for money. Make money work for you. dont be a slave to money bottomline.:)

[giggz83]

its a wacky werid world here..

those rich, young and handsome guys got money got car .. but they chose to focus on their career .. or some go into "gay-hood" ..

then those pretty babe .. they "released" .. maybe they keep one or two.

then there're some lucky guy .. who took their chances well. always on the stand-by. always well-prepared. though they may not be handsome nor rich. but they are always well-prepared and they took their chance.

then there're also some, procastinators .. wait and wait .. choose and choose..

say if a fat boy choose the 1st strategy .. then if you choose the 2nd strategy .. chances are, you would be cursing and swearing at him at orchard. if you happen to see him.

so i think, its all about waiting and taking chances. some true love have to be found. then some, may come knocking your door, if you're lucky.

cheers!~ :D

[justwanadoit]

Actually i am very tired already... been trying to search and search, and after so many fail attempt. Its not a single blow that wear me out, but rather all the small crush, disappointment, rejection, bad experiences accumulate together tat punch me right in the face, a hard one. Think i am Tian Sha Ku Xing, since young, i am not popular with gals and not those types that all the friends will gather ard or the centre of attention, maybe thats my life, and i have to face it.


Bro playboy,

I suggest u join a church la, a lot of my desperate singles kakis joined a church group, gei si pious but out there looking for gals. There the gals very pretty and well groomed one. Many of them join for gals then kenna converted to become believers then find gf and then married liaoz.

Last time all moaning no gfs, now got babies liao, look at them now also feel happy for them.:)

I personally think the 'Power' there can change lives no matter even if many of them come with wrong motives like looking for gals or something else, all also 'He' help one.

[playboy82]

bro, the fact that there are still gals who come & ask u go for a meal shows u are none of the above... :)

The gals i like almost NEVER contact me before .... sometimes i was jus wondering say one day i meet with an accident & die, they wouldn't even know since they virtually never contact me...

sometimes i wonder what makes that difference in the quality of life amongst people. like some people are born with rich & doting parents, some may have gambling & abusive parents.

some people jus have that beautiful, devoted & caring girlfriend without having to put in much effort. some people, despite the best of intention & effort, seem to be perpetually struggling with rejection & loneliness...

But i guess that's what it's called Life ....

Damn Right.....

[playboy82]

Yup... i dun rely agree with the "reality" that most local gals are materialistic and go for guys with money & fast car. Maybe it's cos of my environment..i've a few gal frens who are simply sweet & caring homely type of gals, the kind u can't help but feel like falling for her. But alas, the "reality" is also like what bro shuang jie gun put it haha



The most heart ache reality is not that there are no good gals around, definitely have one, just that it's for everyone else, not meant for me :(

ya, true, deffinetly got good gal, but some how or rather, jus not ment for me...
loves ur phrase.Think in life, for now, i rather be very very rich or hav a good and caring gf, who will stand by me. But i dun hav a gf, and worst still, i not rich... wata life.

[asdfghjkl]

i got money and wife but she always work till late hour how? :(

[vesfreq]

i got money and wife but she always work till late hour how?

Got money. want to find gf also no luck. how? :(

Worse still, received an out-of-the-blue sms from a gal that I had not kept in touch for over a year. SMS asks me out regularly to meet up with her. She is pleasant looking and not too old, but kena some crap from her ex. Hope that she not looking for substitute.

was talking with some of my reservist pals. Older guys talk about settling down. The younger ones more concerned with money. Better have more money than less. But, one thing for sure..... can have no women, but must have money. For with money, one can women. Without money, nothing can happen. :o

[vesfreq]

The gals i like almost NEVER contact me before .... sometimes i was jus wondering say one day i meet with an accident & die, they wouldn't even know since they virtually never contact me...

sometimes i wonder what makes that difference in the quality of life amongst people. like some people are born with rich & doting parents, some may have gambling & abusive parents.

some people jus have that beautiful, devoted & caring girlfriend without having to put in much effort. some people, despite the best of intention & effort, seem to be perpetually struggling with rejection & loneliness...

But i guess that's what it's called Life ....

Rite. Not all are born equal. Right at the moment when I was talking with a fellow army mate, truth is that no two men share the same strength. One's strength is really another's shortcoming.

Some gals are like that. Never bother to call back or keep in touch. One corny char bo (I tried to court) asked me why I like to call her and why I didn't I sms her instead ...... she never realise that its always easier to talk and convey thoughts and ideas. ...... especially since I'm on the road most of the time.

Your situation is actually largely similar to mine. Most gals I liked never bother to sms me, after a "free meal cum movie".

But, really no point looking back at these gals. Sometimes, I remember these gals. Just have to swallow and move on. Rite now, the most impt thing is make the money first (not become money making slave). Lose r/s opportunity is ok, but opportunity to make money (either through biz or career) comes once in a lifetime.

Most imptly, next time u drive 5 (or 6 or 7) series, the gals that rejected u will be cursing and swearing. :p But, when u get a 7 series, don't forget the gang here. lol.

[Deztruct]

I was thinking..maybe true love do exist..juz like Ferarri..juz tat not of us can ever hv a ferrai in our lifetime...the lucky ones will be able to hv it the day they are born..the others work hard for it..

the rest? well...:rolleyes:

[natsuki]

Rite. Not all are born equal. Right at the moment when I was talking with a fellow army mate, truth is that no two men share the same strength. One's strength is really another's shortcoming.

Hi there, hope u dun mind me to quote out ur posts and give each a reply. As u have already stated not all are born equally. So, not all girls are that 'money-face'. FLs are normal girls too. The way most guys think : 'Ah, that girl confirm after my money.' is sure not very right. Give people chances, it's not right to drown the ferry cuz of a black hen.

Some gals are like that. Never bother to call back or keep in touch. One corny char bo (I tried to court) asked me why I like to call her and why I didn't I sms her instead ...... she never realise that its always easier to talk and convey thoughts and ideas. ...... especially since I'm on the road most of the time.

Some guys true enough, never bother to keep in touch too. They thought girls are out for their wealth, but however, some girls only need friendship. I don't understand why some guys prefer sms to calls, but i like ur thinking of "its always easier to talk and convey thoughts and ideas." Very good!! That's why i don't encourage smses.

Your situation is actually largely similar to mine. Most gals I liked never bother to sms me, after a "free meal cum movie".

Your situation is quite different from mine. Most guys who dated me, never find me again. And imagine, we pay dutch! They don't even bothers to forward those irritating good night or good morning smses. To add on, those people don't know i'm a FL. And ya... It's been years since i last went out with a guy for a 'movie-cum-meal' session, like normal friends. I offer to help him buy food and drink, in the end that guy told me to get what ever i want and he actually want to share my drink with me! Hello!!! That is not very right. I still prefer dutch. And why should i share my drink with you when i don't really know u that close yet. Not a bf or even a close friend.

But, really no point looking back at these gals. Sometimes, I remember these gals. Just have to swallow and move on. Rite now, the most impt thing is make the money first (not become money making slave). Lose r/s opportunity is ok, but opportunity to make money (either through biz or career) comes once in a lifetime.

Needless to say, no point looking back at those guys who look down on me, i earn on my own. I don't cheat, i don't steal and definately i don't look down on anyone. As long as one don't irritates me too much. I'm moving on, maybe as a slave to money. But who don't want money? It means security. Without men, at least there's money one could depend on. I lost chances of getting love with the one i want, but i earn back money that is what most people want. As u said, "opportunity to make money (either through biz or career) comes once in a lifetime." . So since we are still young, we could earn as much as our ability could carry us to.

Most imptly, next time u drive 5 (or 6 or 7) series, the gals that rejected u will be cursing and swearing. :p But, when u get a 7 series, don't forget the gang here. lol.

Next time, whatever transport... (suzuki,honda,mitsubishi,subaru..... etc) the one i want/like/love is driving.... Or even walking, i won't mind. Cuz i don't cling on to him for his money.


That's only how i feel... Hope u are not angry for how i express my views. Take care. :)

[Deztruct]

bro, the fact that there are still gals who come & ask u go for a meal shows u are none of the above... :)

The gals i like almost NEVER contact me before .... sometimes i was jus wondering say one day i meet with an accident & die, they wouldn't even know since they virtually never contact me...



i am destined to be gers' best frd but not bf if u noe wat i mean..i luckier than most pple here..at least gers i like wun disappear after a dinner date..we still do keep in contact but then sometimes bcoz of tis..u really dunno wat they wan..as in do i hv a chance? or i juz a frd?

just be grateful for wat u hv in life..everyone has a role in life to play..mayb my role is to be a frd to the gers i noe..i juz believe tat as long i play my role well..wat come will come..

the period of time when u are single? its like someone upstair is givin u a vacation..for u to be by urself and to think abt life..so tat u can b ready for the next person tat comes into ur life..if tat person neva comes..tat mean u r still not ready yet..think of it tis way..if u are not ready..u only hurt tat person..do u wan to hurt someone tat u like?

[Deztruct]

[QUOTE=natsuki]Hi there, hope u dun mind me to quote out ur posts and give each a reply. As u have already stated not all are born equally. So, not all girls are that 'money-face'. FLs are normal girls too. The way most guys think : 'Ah, that girl confirm after my money.' is sure not very right. Give people chances, it's not right to drown the ferry cuz of a black hen.


Hi Natsuki..pardon my ignorance..neva really tot tat u are a lady even tho ur previous postings seem to imply so...

dunno wat to say here or neither do i wish to say more in case pple think tat i tryin to be funny..all i wan to say is tat believe in fairytales..they sometimes do come true..if u believe hard enuf..even if they dun come true..at least u hv hope in ur life once..sound cliche but then mayb cliche things are the only things we can ever say here

[covenn]

Rite now, the most impt thing is make the money first (not become money making slave). Lose r/s opportunity is ok, but opportunity to make money (either through biz or career) comes once in a lifetime.


bro i guess u need to find a balance la. sometimes the right girl also comes once a lifetime n if u were to miss it while bz making money. it will be kinda pity.

[giggz83]

hello all ..

well, it really take 2 to clap.

for me, i've been trying to learn the cave and the rubber band theory (men from mars women from venus), bros, who have read this book will know.

after all, men and women come from different "planets" isnt it so?

sometimes, we have to keep trying and trying.

earning money is one thing. never stop trying to find is another ... some people say destiny is in our hands.

so .. again and always again. i wish all bros luck.

[jinrenhe]

But, really no point looking back at these gals. Sometimes, I remember these gals. Just have to swallow and move on. Rite now, the most impt thing is make the money first (not become money making slave). Lose r/s opportunity is ok, but opportunity to make money (either through biz or career) comes once in a lifetime.

Most imptly, next time u drive 5 (or 6 or 7) series, the gals that rejected u will be cursing and swearing. But, when u get a 7 series, don't forget the gang here. lol.


Love (and getting ur happiness from it) can be one of the most unfair, irrational & cruel thing on earth. u can be the kindest chap, willing to do anything for her, but sometimes life jus seems biased against u.
And yet, sometimes u see some lying, two-timing jerks having such fulfilling relationship. I've seen it happen around me, happen to my friends so many times.
what a crazy world, if u think of it..

The gal whom i can never bear to hurt, always end up having her heart broken by some other guys

So i do feel like u sometimes, it seems wiser & more rewarding to concentrate on other areas of life like studying, working, building ur wealth. At least the fuits of ur labour are tangible (better grades, fatter bank account :) ) and what u get depends on how much effort u are willing to put in...

[jinrenhe]

just be grateful for wat u hv in life..everyone has a role in life to play..mayb my role is to be a frd to the gers i noe..i juz believe tat as long i play my role well..wat come will come..


Actually i'm generally quite contended & comfortable being alone... 4 years plus, gotten used to it already. I feel quite happy as long as i can still afford occasionally a good meal with my frens, and like bro vesfreq, have my car to zoom around & take me swiftly to GL...

it only gets shitty during special occasion or social gathering where u see everyone around u being blissfully attached, and u ponder if there's somethk missing in ur life? :cool:

And boy, this have been a wonderful thread... it's like allowing me to realize that i'm not some anti-social freak for feeling the way i did... kudos to threadstarter bro playboy...

wish luck to all the wonderful bros who have posted in this thread too ..

[Herich]

Actually i'm generally quite contended & comfortable being alone... 4 years plus, gotten used to it already. I feel quite happy as long as i can still afford occasionally a good meal with my frens, and like bro vesfreq, have my car to zoom around & take me swiftly to GL......And boy, this have been a wonderful thread... it's like allowing me to realize that i'm not some anti-social freak for feeling the way i did...

Exactly same thoughts as you bro. always drive my beloved car to 逃亡 to GL esp when Mum nagged at me. though at times felt that giving up my car can buy me many many more fucks. but nothing beats the twin pleasures of chionging on expressway after a good fuck. 'glad' that i am not alone.

[playboy82]

seems that after all, putting aside all our ONS, trip to geylang, at the end of the day, all we want is someone who will care for us.... we are not just some sex machine, we need love too.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

seems that after all, putting aside all our ONS, trip to geylang, at the end of the day, all we want is someone who will care for us.... we are not just some sex machine, we need love too.

u r rite in making this statement,in fact who don't need love.it's only a matter of place and when we can find it.:)

[jng1103]

we are not just some sex machine, we need love too.

There's a proverb,"Love takes time." Well, it's quite true that love takes time BUT ONLY after "free meal, ride, movies, etc..." . Hey, I'm not talking about those low income earners here, but those executives (good income earners) treated their guys like a cash machine. What? They expect their men to book the movie tickets, pay for them and pick them up? That's provided if those women are AVAILABLE for the movies :eek:

True, not all are black sheeps, but I'd rather spend my time and money drinking with my buddies and hoping to strike TOTO aka ONS without much hassles :D

jimbo

[vesfreq]

Natsuki,

I’m not angry..... but your pink colored wording is quite disturbing to read. Pardon me, sometimes I spend hours looking at the screen. I’m sure you can do myself (including other bros) a favor, by not having your reply entered in pink. Thanks.

Anyway, your situation cannot be compared with what the bros here are going through. Honestly, do you think many of the bros here will deliberately date a girl out only to ignore her? That sounds funny.

You do have a situation on your end. Or rather, some would describe your situation as a problem. Thing is that guys may not keep in touch with you for a variety of reasons. The most common one is that there isn’t much to talk about or, perhaps, a lack of common interest/ topic to talk about.

I’m not sure how old you are. For myself, I’m quite sick of going out with different dates and trying to know someone new and go through the same SOP over and over again. Sometimes, I end up going zoom zoom on the highways, with music on full blast, rather than dating a girl that I don’t really have anything to talk to.

Actually, the thing about sms is (IMO) disturbing. Ironically, most girls (talking about the younger ones) enjoy hammering away at their hp keypads. I don’t like to sms for one simple reason.... ie, I drive most of the time and its ridiculous for me to try to decipher some cryptic sms at the traffic light and, at the same time, try to enter some reply.

Well, one man’s meat is another’s poison. I only date grown up ladies. Small sisters not my cup of tea. Nor are milfs.

I’m pretty engrossed with making money sometimes, but for a reason. Not because I need an obscene pile of hard cash. Life is short. Money need not buy happiness, but it can buy satisfaction, at least.

Some guys will agree with me. Between spending on some silly bochup ah lian and blowing some cash on a new sports car, what would a guy choose? I’m serious about finding the right girl. Between the two, I rather go for the car. At least, car won’t run away, when I am down. A sports car can crack track records at sepang and earn some wows from the young chio bus around the track.

After going through all the thick and thin, a relationship can shatter into bits and pieces. Marriage can end up divorce. Nothing is certain in this world, except for the car loan/ season parking/ summons/ fines/ 10 year COE/ GST hike. Oh and not forgetting, zealous fatimahs trying to catch illegally parked car.

A sports car turns heads, but a heart broken guy earn medals for being faithful and caring. Perhaps, relationship was never meant for everyone. Have to say that the motor car is the guy’s best friend still. I given up true love, because only the car dealer can give me my 2nd love, the car I like.

Pardon me for the long reply.

[vesfreq]

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[Huo_Yuan_Jia]

true love to me only exists in selected Korean soap dramas.:)

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

still in the unknown state of finding it.maybe it will exist if u believe and persist.:)

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

still in the unknown state of finding it.maybe it will exist if u believe and persist.:)

[vesfreq]

still in the unknown state of finding it.maybe it will exist if u believe and persist.:)

What if it doesn't exist and one continues to believe in true love? Its like self-delusion, if it really doesn't exist. But, if it does exist, its just like finding a needle in a haystack and hoping that you get he needle soon, without having to find until hair turn grey. :(

[Archduke]

well the so called "true love" is nothing more than a state of mind. We always believe we have found our "true love" when we are with someone we like but how quickly that changes when we no longer like that someone.

"True love" can only be seen and measured when the going gets tough and the couple stick together no matter what. Each supporting the other to get by during the time of crsis.

In fact, my grandfather passed away shortly from bone cancer after my grandmother passed away. Before that he was fit as a fiddle. So I dare say it exists. So take heart people!

Cheers!

[Deztruct]

What if it doesn't exist and one continues to believe in true love? Its like self-delusion, if it really doesn't exist. But, if it does exist, its just like finding a needle in a haystack and hoping that you get he needle soon, without having to find until hair turn grey. :(

we all live for a dream..for some its abt hving THE car..for others it might be fame and wealth..to the rest of us..mayb its abt findin the one to love? while unrealistic, at least its keep our hope in life going on...

not sure abt the rest, mayb i juz a love sick idoit..while mayb its easier to settle down with juz anyone but is it wat i really wan? Or mayb wat i really wan is to find that really special someone n spend rest of my life with her..throughout my experiences in life..sometimes the best meal you can ever hv is to eat cup noodles outside 7-11 with tat special someone..finding true love is like a journey..sometimes the destination is not impt but the view that you see along the way is really tat matters

PS - i juz a love sick idoit so my views might not apply to 99% of the normal people.

[tellmiwhy]

not sure abt the rest, mayb i juz a love sick idoit..while mayb its easier to settle down with juz anyone but is it wat i really wan? Or mayb wat i really wan is to find that really special someone n spend rest of my life with her..throughout my experiences in life..sometimes the best meal you can ever hv is to eat cup noodles outside 7-11 with tat special someone..finding true love is like a journey..sometimes the destination is not impt but the view that you see along the way is really tat matters

PS - i juz a love sick idoit so my views might not apply to 99% of the normal people.

well said bro. although i agree that nt everyone has the same view as u, but i certainly does. tats wat i believe in and hope for also. there was this once when a grp of us friends chatting abt our ambition, i actualli told them that my ambition was to get married with the person i luv most and have a happy family. :D

p.s its being a while since i can reply & post. for the past few days, i always get database error. nw can finalli reply to all the bros, hurray!!! :cool:

[AAconnection]

To me true love exist or else it will be the end of the world. Only thing true love is extremely difficult to find. There was once I have a screw and I loose the nut, went to Kelantan lane near Sungei Rd to find the right nut to fit the screw, thinking that I will be able to find the nut but after asking and searching many hardware shops and screw specialists still cannot find the right nut then, give up. Few days later when I was looking for screw driver in the tool box, I saw a few nuts thinking might as well try to fit the screw with this few nuts, but unfortuately it do not fit. It like you have a "screw" and you don't have the "nut" To find the "nut" you have to bring the "screw" to test, whether it fit. True love is where the screw fits the nut. And if you find the right nuts, you can screw and unscrew it without getting loose. My version of true love is that one has to make an effort to find the right one.

[playboy82]

we all live for a dream..for some its abt hving THE car..for others it might be fame and wealth..to the rest of us..mayb its abt findin the one to love? while unrealistic, at least its keep our hope in life going on...

not sure abt the rest, mayb i juz a love sick idoit..while mayb its easier to settle down with juz anyone but is it wat i really wan? Or mayb wat i really wan is to find that really special someone n spend rest of my life with her..throughout my experiences in life..sometimes the best meal you can ever hv is to eat cup noodles outside 7-11 with tat special someone..finding true love is like a journey..sometimes the destination is not impt but the view that you see along the way is really tat matters

PS - i juz a love sick idoit so my views might not apply to 99% of the normal people.

well i think even eating cup noodle with ur love ones will taste like eating abalone to u, but on the other hand, which gal will still eat cup noodle together with you. haha.
I have just encounter this gal, sometime back in MSN, she tell me that a guy, 7 years older than her, in her work place is chasing after her and ask me how to reject him in a nice way. As i also do have some feeling for this gal, as she is the only gal which i bother to chat with as i felt she and i have chemistry, the way we +++, and she admitted that too.So i send her my pic, tell her to put it in her hp, so that to bluff that guy that she ord had a bf, so he can fuck off. The reason she want to reject him is that he is 7 yrs older and she felt not suitable, btw the guy got CAR and his Salary is damm good too, she say she dun go for all this, so I tot to mysef, at last i find someone who was not that materialistic. But deep in me, i also felt very unsure, so i test her by asking her out for a date, but guess wat, she go offline while i waiting for her reply. Guess she is shy or something.As i was quite piss, cos it is rude to log off without leaving a word, i sms her, and we are like quarreling in the sms.

So after abt a mth, when i meet her again in MSN, she tell me her father pass away, and i also realise she had a bf, guess wat, is that guy in her work place.
WTF, the reason she tell me is that he really make her feel touch.

From then on, i know my theory is correct, she is just another Satistic which will comfirm my opion on gals. I tot to myself, of course la, only guys who are rich, got car, can go romantic place can make a gal feel touch mah, guy like me, poor, no car howw to make it happen, i mean i can even get a date from u earlier in the MSN.

So you all tell me, which gal will still eat cup noodle with us when times are hard. All of the gals will sure say they are not vain, not into car or handsome bf, i mean who will say that they are thief when they really are.
What i wanted to say are, most gals may NOT REALLY go for car and looks, but then when someone with car and looks come along, they will stand a better chance,, who will still care abt chemistry, feeling and the character of the guy who is poorer.

[shrek]

well i think even eating cup noodle with ur love ones will taste like eating abalone to u, but on the other hand, which gal will still eat cup noodle together with you. haha.
I have just encounter this gal, sometime back in MSN, she tell me that a guy, 7 years older than her, in her work place is chasing after her and ask me how to reject him in a nice way. As i also do have some feeling for this gal, as she is the only gal which i bother to chat with as i felt she and i have chemistry, the way we +++, and she admitted that too.So i send her my pic, tell her to put it in her hp, so that to bluff that guy that she ord had a bf, so he can fuck off. The reason she want to reject him is that he is 7 yrs older and she felt not suitable, btw the guy got CAR and his Salary is damm good too, she say she dun go for all this, so I tot to mysef, at last i find someone who was not that materialistic. But deep in me, i also felt very unsure, so i test her by asking her out for a date, but guess wat, she go offline while i waiting for her reply. Guess she is shy or something.As i was quite piss, cos it is rude to log off without leaving a word, i sms her, and we are like quarreling in the sms.

So after abt a mth, when i meet her again in MSN, she tell me her father pass away, and i also realise she had a bf, guess wat, is that guy in her work place.
WTF, the reason she tell me is that he really make her feel touch.

From then on, i know my theory is correct, she is just another Satistic which will comfirm my opion on gals. I tot to myself, of course la, only guys who are rich, got car, can go romantic place can make a gal feel touch mah, guy like me, poor, no car howw to make it happen, i mean i can even get a date from u earlier in the MSN.

So you all tell me, which gal will still eat cup noodle with us when times are hard. All of the gals will sure say they are not vain, not into car or handsome bf, i mean who will say that they are thief when they really are.
What i wanted to say are, most gals may NOT REALLY go for car and looks, but then when someone with car and looks come along, they will stand a better chance,, who will still care abt chemistry, feeling and the character of the guy who is poorer.



bro, i totally agree with u!! same case, same tots, same feelings~

[jng1103]

So you all tell me, which gal will still eat cup noodle with us when times are hard. All of the gals will sure say they are not vain, not into car or handsome bf, i mean who will say that they are thief when they really are.
What i wanted to say are, most gals may NOT REALLY go for car and looks, but then when someone with car and looks come along, they will stand a better chance,, who will still care abt chemistry, feeling and the character of the guy who is poorer.

I give u a big thumb up if u were born in 1982. What a matured guy and welcome to the "adult" world. I like ur comment...

Just remember,"Bill Clinton never confess of getting blow job from Monica Lewinsky, nor did OJ Simpson admitted of killing her beloved wife." The same goes to women. They wont tell u that they are looking for guys with car, cash, condo, etc... but when that comes along, u tend to lose out no matter how strong ur r/s with her.

Talking from experience, my buddies (drive a car + good $$$) date married women almost every weekend. He drives them out for fun, though may not hanky panky. Women love fun as much as men do, so they would go with the flow to distress themselves.

However, dont be suprised that many of these men live their days with a time bomb aka credit cards. I dont know coz i'm just too poor :o

poor dad, poor uncle,
jimbo

[surfer888]

I’m not sure how old you are. For myself, I’m quite sick of going out with different dates and trying to know someone new and go through the same SOP over and over again. Sometimes, I end up going zoom zoom on the highways, with music on full blast, rather than dating a girl that I don’t really have anything to talk to.

Wholeheartedly agree. I still remember making the decision whether to meet my ex-gf for some wild sex or go home to my playstation. The playstation won... mind you it was only a PS1.

Actually, the thing about sms is (IMO) disturbing. Ironically, most girls (talking about the younger ones) enjoy hammering away at their hp keypads. I don’t like to sms for one simple reason.... ie, I drive most of the time and its ridiculous for me to try to decipher some cryptic sms at the traffic light and, at the same time, try to enter some reply.

I hate it when my ex-gf keeps smsing me while I'm driving and expecting me to respond. On top of it, I would receive at least 100 smses and 20 phone calls throughout the day. It was actually one of the reasons why I left her. Looking back, it was silly to get worked up over this but during that time, it was downright irritating and I almost went mad... almost like being stalked.

I’m pretty engrossed with making money sometimes, but for a reason. Not because I need an obscene pile of hard cash. Life is short. Money need not buy happiness, but it can buy satisfaction, at least.

Fully understand. I'm doing my best to make as much when the sun shines.

Some guys will agree with me. Between spending on some silly bochup ah lian and blowing some cash on a new sports car, what would a guy choose? I’m serious about finding the right girl. Between the two, I rather go for the car. At least, car won’t run away, when I am down. A sports car can crack track records at sepang and earn some wows from the young chio bus around the track.

Totally agree. But almost made that mistake in my younger days... almost sold my first car to get a Gerard Genta for one of my ex-gfs. Luckily came to my senses. But I bought her some diamond jewellery a few years later after I married someone else... Does not count though as it was much more affordable to me later in life.

Pardon me for the long reply.

No apologies required. Up you 4 pts for your insight!

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

What if it doesn't exist and one continues to believe in true love? Its like self-delusion, if it really doesn't exist. But, if it does exist, its just like finding a needle in a haystack and hoping that you get he needle soon, without having to find until hair turn grey. :(

what if is always humans think abt.we dont really have other choice,we cant choose who to meet and where to meet them,we have no ctrl over fate.if u dun believe,high chances are u may not even find them cos u didnt even try.:)

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

What if it doesn't exist and one continues to believe in true love? Its like self-delusion, if it really doesn't exist. But, if it does exist, its just like finding a needle in a haystack and hoping that you get he needle soon, without having to find until hair turn grey. :(

what if is always humans think abt.we dont really have other choice,we cant choose who to meet and where to meet them,we have no ctrl over fate.if u dun believe,high chances are u may not even find them cos u didnt even try.:)

[no_faith]

if u believe true love still exist, you have to be patience, wait, fight, search, try again even u have failed in love for numberous times,
if u dun believe, no need to tink so much liao

wat is 'true love'?
i only noe making love.....:D

[no_faith]

if u believe true love still exist, you have to be patience, wait, fight, search, try again even u have failed in love for numberous times,
if u dun believe, no need to tink so much liao

wat is 'true love'?
i only noe making love.....:D

[Manggo]

Often, i hav tot alot abt this, especially when i am going to work and after work,
and i started to think back, during sch time, gf are hard to find cos not handsome enough, then some more that time no balls also, unlike now, can approach any gals, then when u enter poly, tats no pretty gals in ur same class and all ur friends are mostly guys, single, n of course,they also hav no gals to intro to u cos even they themself can't get gf. Then wat can we do, other than to surf net, msn, friendster to find gals, but all the gals are so "dao" if u can get a reply, can consider very lucky,but of course i do get a few ons n flings from this type of channel, but although every time i get into this kinda of " play play " affair,even though i know that this kinda relationship won't work but every time i will treat it like a serious relationship, maybe deep deep down inside my heart , i do longed for a fairy tale like ending.

Then when u stepped into the working society, u find that ur working area also got no gals, mostly all married old woman, so no chance to get to know suitable gals too.And after work, i would listen to sad love song, thinking how difficult is to fall in love. And when u alone at home, i would cry sometimes, seriously, no joking, when u notice that u are so alone in ur life that there's not even a single caring gal who will ask u something like how is ur work
today, tough? I mean such a simple gesture that i see from other couple is
such a normal simple everyday thing to them, but to me, is like striking toto.
When i am young, i use to hope to live life simple,like those Qin Mei Zhu Ma, to married the gal i like n live happily ever after, not when i grew older, i come to realise that it is something like " mission impossible".

So wat can i do, i cannot jus anyhow approach gal which i like in the street and ask them for a date right. So wat can i do, other then to go geylang, and surf sammyboy. Seriously this forum is like become the core to my life ord, addicted to it, and also i notice alot other samsters is also trying to find their fairy tale love life, but in vain, thats y we go geylang and so emphasis "GF" feeling when we visit lorong 18,we are so pathatic that we hav to turn to a pro for some time limiting and costly "GF" feeling.

And often , i longed for someone to hug when i am feeling down, but deep down, i also know that love can't be force, and preciesly becos i know this, i am feeling more sad, how i wish that Love can be bought, then it will make things less complicating for me, at less i know that if i got the $$, i can have love.Thats y so many ppl turn to china or viet for option to marry wife. But in reality, it is not like that , $$ can't buy love., Up till now, i still wonder how my life will be in future, but i have a strong feeling that that's it for me ord, nothing big turn or twist will happen to me, still i will visit geylang,go home after work, visit sammyboy, then when i am old, die lonely.


Anyone here share the same thoughts as me? Is this the meaning of life?


bro, i agree wif u
nowaday it is a hard to find a true love
and i feel regret about college life
should get one gal but all of them are suck
then it come to work area
still dont have a gf, call my self a loser
watching other couple in clubing with their gal make me
n my friend who dont have a gal feel jealous
but yes, we have a gal, its is just for ons only
not a gf, then when it a time to bring a gal to home and bonk
till morning its is a best part, sometime when i look at gal that laying
beside me, i wish she was my GF, but not, she just only a whore or ons
but seriously i really wish they are my GF.

[DenmarkDoll]

It is all karma keeping this world go round.That is why, earth is round.Plant a good karma and u shall get back a good one sooner or later.

Whether 'true love' exist is also beyond our control. Need not be BGR when we are talking about 'true love' . Our parents? Our sibilings? Our friends? Those are also love right? What we humans really understand about 'love'? It takes lessons after lessons in life to see thru what we really log for... :)

[devileye]

denmarkdoll.. why must state SBF Nick with MSN address when pming???:) :eek:

[surfer888]

So you all tell me, which gal will still eat cup noodle with us when times are hard. All of the gals will sure say they are not vain, not into car or handsome bf, i mean who will say that they are thief when they really are.
What i wanted to say are, most gals may NOT REALLY go for car and looks, but then when someone with car and looks come along, they will stand a better chance,, who will still care abt chemistry, feeling and the character of the guy who is poorer.

Like good character, good genes, high education etc, money is also an asset. Nevertheless, Money alone will not help you get the girl but it does help.

I admit, I do give expensive gifts and take them to nice restaurants to girls that I am after. However, from my experience a nice portrait painted of them (or anything meaningful made by yourself) or a home-cooked meal prepared specially for them is usually much more effective than diamonds and michelin-star restaurants.

I only do the latter for girls that I'm serious about. It's the effort that counts most of the time. Money just helps making the effort less laborious.

[allyyong]

I have been following tis post for a while and decided to give my two cents worth.

Love will naturally come to you...sometimes, you have to go and search for yourself. For me, true love do exists. I have done really crazy things in the past before I knew my hubby and yet he accepted it and married me. Things have been rough recently...and I guess he has taken me for granted and I probably has taken him for granted.

It takes more than true love to make a relationship works, money, communication, attentitiveness, affection, trust, and so on and so forth...it takes a lot of effort for both to make it work. True love alone will not make it work. Couples can fight over many issues, kids ( i dun have, dun intend to have), finance, work and relatives...they all plays a part....goddamn true love is not enough. Even true love will be overshadowed by these factors.

Did I marry for true love??? No... I married cos I know my hubby loves me more than I do, and I married cos well...hahahah other factors started coming in, like what if I am still single???? I told him the truth. Anyway, watever, for me, I take one step at a time, if the marriage does not work, I can go seperate ways and live the life I want to... maybe becos I am older now, I see things in a different perspective.

True, some guys said gals dun need all those expensive things, I agreed. As much as those will add a nice touch, being cuddly and kissing and being attentive are much better. Unless u getting a gal who wants u for ur money, why the fuck are u with her for???? She will never stick with u thru thick and thin...

[airbrush]

True love haha yes there is but put in a lot effort to find one. You can also choose to test true love in many ways. One of the way is going true lie detector test.

[DenmarkDoll]

denmarkdoll.. why must state SBF Nick with MSN address when pming???:) :eek:

Erm... Don' like unknowns, annoymous, irritating freakos to add how add me mah... : )

If anyone wanna add me in msn then i will know who is who easier. Please dun go off thread... Let get back to "true love" .... : )

[tellmiwhy]

True love haha yes there is but put in a lot effort to find one. You can also choose to test true love in many ways. One of the way is going true lie detector test.


but alot of ppl always dun dare to do the test, bcoz they are afraid that the truth wil nt be wat they had anticipated. be it acknowledging the partner as their true love or being their partner's true love. Sometimes it is better to leave a small little grey area for everyone so tat "everything will be beautiful". alot of times, wat we want and wat we've gt is slightly different which will make the test even less accurate becoz it analyze wat u want. But like someone else had said, in love, its nt abt finding the perfect person, its abt luving the imperfect person perfectly. :o

cheers.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

It is all karma keeping this world go round.That is why, earth is round.Plant a good karma and u shall get back a good one sooner or later.

Whether 'true love' exist is also beyond our control. Need not be BGR when we are talking about 'true love' . Our parents? Our sibilings? Our friends? Those are also love right? What we humans really understand about 'love'? It takes lessons after lessons in life to see thru what we really log for... :)


very well said.We need to go through it to knw how it really feels,it's a matter of u nv try,u nv know.:)

[surfer888]

It takes more than true love to make a relationship works, money, communication, attentitiveness, affection, trust, and so on and so forth...it takes a lot of effort for both to make it work. True love alone will not make it work. Couples can fight over many issues, kids ( i dun have, dun intend to have), finance, work and relatives...they all plays a part....goddamn true love is not enough. Even true love will be overshadowed by these factors.

Well said. True love is definitely not enough.

My mum once told me that you cannot live on love alone. We have to be realistic and look at other factors like finances, culture, etc.

[playboy82]

wow.. keep it up, keep it going, lets make it a 100 page thread.

True love ever exist? how u define true love? well at the very least, i have not teasted any.Actually i always wonder how those marriage couple cope with their life, imagine after work come back, so tired, still need to take care of children, cook, i think abt it also buay tahan ord.

i was thinking of single all the way, so carefree, no worried, when i have save enough $$, maybe i will stay in a far away land, and maybe adopt a child, to have someone to take care of me when i old... haha i must be crazy... haha

[Deztruct]

wow.. keep it up, keep it going, lets make it a 100 page thread.

True love ever exist? how u define true love? well at the very least, i have not teasted any.Actually i always wonder how those marriage couple cope with their life, imagine after work come back, so tired, still need to take care of children, cook, i think abt it also buay tahan ord.

i was thinking of single all the way, so carefree, no worried, when i have save enough $$, maybe i will stay in a far away land, and maybe adopt a child, to have someone to take care of me when i old... haha i must be crazy... haha

i once experience true love but the foolish me let it go and in the end..i came back to the circle..lookin for the thing tat i once threw away

Anyway juz to say..u are not crazy also..i tot of the same things as u before..stay in a faraway land when nobody noe me..mayb adopt a kid or wat so tat i wun b so lonely..

[vesfreq]

Wholeheartedly agree. I still remember making the decision whether to meet my ex-gf for some wild sex or go home to my playstation. The playstation won... mind you it was only a PS1.

My ex-gf did suggest about keeping in touch for kinky exercise. But, after we broke up, things got really sour. Never kept in touch anymore. However, she gave very hot sex. :D


I hate it when my ex-gf keeps smsing me while I'm driving and expecting me to respond. On top of it, I would receive at least 100 smses and 20 phone calls throughout the day. It was actually one of the reasons why I left her. Looking back, it was silly to get worked up over this but during that time, it was downright irritating and I almost went mad... almost like being stalked.

Lol. ur ex-gf really knows how to breath down your neck. Actually, I’m dating this girl (what an irony, after several posts of anti-gal remarks. will come to the details shortly) and she (at least) knows when to lay off and understands that I may be caught up by work.

Promised her that I would get back to her asap, after my work. Made it a point to tell her that I’m busy. Think everything is working out well. She knows why and when I’m really busy. Maturity and understanding makes things work out.

On the other hand, ur ex is damn telok. 100 SMSes cum 20 phone calls is a bit too exaggerating. If I was you, I would have kicked up a fuss. Its just too much.


Fully understand. I'm doing my best to make as much when the sun shines.

I’m doing that too. Be happy with what you do and never look back. May we all achieve our goals in the coming years.


Totally agree. But almost made that mistake in my younger days... almost sold my first car to get a Gerard Genta for one of my ex-gfs. Luckily came to my senses. But I bought her some diamond jewellery a few years later after I married someone else... Does not count though as it was much more affordable to me later in life.

Ehh.... that would have been a serious mistake to sell her car for a piece of decorative ornament. Heng, you never think with small head. :P Just kidding. We all make some kind of silly mistakes, at some point in time or another. Its all about living. Sometimes, there are things that have to be done and remembered as fond lovely memories.

Better to have loved than never. Some gals are, no doubt, worth courting. Others are only worthy of the bin. Given another chance to live, I think we would all do the various crazy stuff for the gals we like. Inevitable, but again realise that some gals are totally not worth the time.



No apologies required. Up you 4 pts for your insight!
No prob. Thanks for the points. I was just writing my personal thoughts. Up your points too.

[Archduke]

Well the Mrs and I have had our fair share of domestic quarrels but we always managed to cool it and sort it out.

Our secret is to give each other some space from time to time and always make sure that the other half is kept in the loop when major issues are concerned. Lots of give and take in equal amounts but we do not keep score. Sometimes I let her have her way sometimes she lets me have my way. Mutual respect I guess. Housework... well I pitch in to help thus easing her burden.

Most importantly we never forgot that we were not just father and mother to our children but also husband and wife. From time to time we do take some time off to be alone. Hope all this helps.

Cheers!

[evo3]

True Love:

Love is modern just a feeling
Love is knowing and understanding

[surfer888]

On the other hand, ur ex is damn telok. 100 SMSes cum 20 phone calls is a bit too exaggerating. If I was you, I would have kicked up a fuss. Its just too much.

On top of it, she's from Japan and she quite often forgets the time difference so I get calls from early in the morning (1 hr later). The worst is when I'm travelling and she calls me at 2am, 4am, 6am.

But at least the sex was almost worthwhile. CIM, AR, Creampies, Almost Mile High Club, Outdoor, Fuckathons, etc. But only almost worthwhile. She was just too high maintenance on my time.

The one thing I miss about her now are her yelps of "Kimocheeeee!"

[tellmiwhy]

But at least the sex was almost worthwhile. CIM, AR, Creampies, Almost Mile High Club, Outdoor, Fuckathons, etc. But only almost worthwhile. She was just too high maintenance on my time.

The one thing I miss about her now are her yelps of "Kimocheeeee!"

wow!! my dream to have a jap gal as gf. if can enjoy all the stuffs like u bro, i dun mind the high maintenance part for a period. :p

come to think of tat, reali feel like going to Jap for my holiday in the coming mth.

cheers.

[jinrenhe]

wow.. keep it up, keep it going, lets make it a 100 page thread.

True love ever exist? how u define true love? well at the very least, i have not teasted any.Actually i always wonder how those marriage couple cope with their life, imagine after work come back, so tired, still need to take care of children, cook, i think abt it also buay tahan ord.

i was thinking of single all the way, so carefree, no worried, when i have save enough $$, maybe i will stay in a far away land, and maybe adopt a child, to have someone to take care of me when i old... haha i must be crazy... haha

Yes this topic is a refreshing one amidst all the discussion about sex, flings & ONS etc haha.
The way u described ur situation (particularly in the 1st post of this thread) was so similar to how i feel. Sometimes i feel so sorry & peculiarly ashamed of myself. I'm not a poor beggar or criminal but yet feel so pathetic over an apparent trival aspect of my life--- being unable to find the love i want

[playboy82]

Yes this topic is a refreshing one amidst all the discussion about sex, flings & ONS etc haha.
The way u described ur situation (particularly in the 1st post of this thread) was so similar to how i feel. Sometimes i feel so sorry & peculiarly ashamed of myself. I'm not a poor beggar or criminal but yet feel so pathetic over an apparent trival aspect of my life--- being unable to find the love i want


Ya, then nowadays, all the gals ard me seems to me that they are not my loves one, cos after all the failiure, we like kinda know wat excatly wat type of gal we want, wat type of gal will work out.

[playboy82]

Yes this topic is a refreshing one amidst all the discussion about sex, flings & ONS etc haha.
The way u described ur situation (particularly in the 1st post of this thread) was so similar to how i feel. Sometimes i feel so sorry & peculiarly ashamed of myself. I'm not a poor beggar or criminal but yet feel so pathetic over an apparent trival aspect of my life--- being unable to find the love i want


Ya, then nowadays, all the gals ard me seems to me that they are not my loves one, cos after all the failiure, we like kinda know wat excatly wat type of gal we want, wat type of gal will work out.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

Ya, then nowadays, all the gals ard me seems to me that they are not my loves one, cos after all the failiure, we like kinda know wat excatly wat type of gal we want, wat type of gal will work out.

cant help to wonder how they know.anyway fate and timing plays an important part.i have learned to take things easier.what u always want may not be what u will get.the lesser the hope,the lesser the disappointment.:)

[surfer888]

wow!! my dream to have a jap gal as gf. if can enjoy all the stuffs like u bro, i dun mind the high maintenance part for a period. :p

come to think of tat, reali feel like going to Jap for my holiday in the coming mth.

cheers.

Be careful of what you wish for. I've dated women from many countries before and the highest maintenance came from the Jap ones. Not so much money... they have that already... it's attention and affection. I reckon it's either a culture thing or just that Jap women are deprived of it.

[surfer888]

cant help to wonder how they know.anyway fate and timing plays an important part.i have learned to take things easier.what u always want may not be what u will get.the lesser the hope,the lesser the disappointment.:)

Yeah... lower the expectations and perhaps see results. Actually, I believe good things come when you're not looking.

But I still can't imagine going out to look for an ugly, poor, stupid and bad tempered chicks.:D

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

[QUOTE=surfer888;1768799]Yeah... lower the expectations and perhaps see results. Actually, I believe good things come when you're not looking.

But I still can't imagine going out to look for an ugly, poor, stupid and bad tempered chicks.:D[/QUOTE}
i also believe in not expecting anything,this way u wont be disappointed and if a gd ger comes along it will always feel so nice.as for "downgrading" ur taste,it's all up to individuals,i have no say abt it.:)

[jinrenhe]

i once experience true love but the foolish me let it go and in the end..i came back to the circle..lookin for the thing tat i once threw away
Anyway juz to say..u are not crazy also..i tot of the same things as u before..stay in a faraway land when nobody noe me..mayb adopt a kid or wat so tat i wun b so lonely..

yup whilst today i'm lamenting about my sad lonely existence, wondering why am i so isolated compared to most of my frens who are blissfully attached.... i realized that destiny did gave me a "chance" before--- There was once a beautiful gal who loved me for who i was (that was also the only time in my life i ever experienced "true love"). But i did not know how to treasure happiness and it left me.

i was young (around 17,18), immature and did not know how to handle relationships, much less happiness... so was it entirely my fault?

so sometimes i wonder is it because i've had my chance but did not play my cards well, alas the sorry state i'm in today :(

[jinrenhe]

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[asdfghjkl]

wow.. back again.. nice to read all bros happening.. keep them coming! :)

[jinrenhe]

Since we are at this topic, there’s an issue which I would sincerely seek the advices/comments from bros here. Don’t wish to start another thread on this issue as this is afterall not a aunt agony forum.
But I would like as many advices/comments cos this problem is like something holding me back for a long time.

These 4 years it seems no matter how hard I try, I can’t shake off this strange phenomenon of “no one ever contacting me”. When we meet in school, we could talk & joke as normal. If I asked her out, she may occasionally agree depending if she’s free. But one thing--- she would NEVER ever call or sms me
I mean, even as normal friends, it isn’t too much to just drop a sms once in awhile. It’s as though I never register in her mind when I’m not physically there talking to her. She always friendly towards me, but also in a way largely indifferent/nonchalant towards me. It’s difficult to explain, but u jus know it when u feel u don’t mean much to the other person.
I can accept it if it only occurs for a particular gal, but it seems this happen to every single gal whom I’ve liked or tried to date over this 4 years.

Each time I see a gal I liked, I would tell myself to give it one last shot… I do not want to end up my life in such loneliness. But failure after failure, I cannot help but start to feel like its destiny or somethk. After this most recent screw-up, I jus feel like giving it all up & lead a secluded existence.

sorry for wasting the bandwidth of this thread for my personnal problem :o

[freedom]

i have a most or less same feel of what you been going through which lasted me for 2 yrs but it is a different case from you.
hiaz :(
life is just unfair

[shitty_shit1982]

I seldom post in threads but this thread has certainly caught my attention. I feeling the same...Bros, it's very important to widen your social cycle. And when your social cycle widens, it becomes much easier to find potential gfs or wives.

For me, I'm still trying hard to make more friends. Nevertheless, hope it will be easy for you.

[tellmiwhy]

These 4 years it seems no matter how hard I try, I can’t shake off this strange phenomenon of “no one ever contacting me”. I mean, even as normal friends, it isn’t too much to just drop a sms once in awhile. It’s as though I never register in her mind when I’m not physically there talking to her. She always friendly towards me, but also in a way largely indifferent/nonchalant towards me.


bro, i think its nt strange lar, maybe its also wat i'm experiencing. :) the gals that i like are also like tat. they r nvr the one to call/sms me. maybe they feel that i liked them, so i wld definitely take the initiative. nt all the gals are so daring or "open minded" no matter hw u call it. Some gals are still those shy type where they will nt take the initiative to look for u. Even my current gf is that type of gal. During the whole process i was always the one asking the dates. :p so no worries lar bro jinrenhe, i think its nt much of a problem. Jus dun be too minded by it and everything will come smoothly.
Jus my cents wrth, hope it helps.

Cheers.

[Castrol]

These 4 years it seems no matter how hard I try, I can’t shake off this strange phenomenon of “no one ever contacting me”. When we meet in school, we could talk & joke as normal. If I asked her out, she may occasionally agree depending if she’s free. But one thing--- she would NEVER ever call or sms me


bro, "in school" means you are still very young and studying? no big deal, you still have a whole life of relationships to go through in future. there are some guys who are lucky to have girlfriends to study and have sex with but it comes with the territory (girl problems). :D

[Know_yr_role]

Well to me i believe tat, everyone is pair with someone in this world...its really up to each pair to make things work or not, the actions they take, decisions they make to make a r/s workable.."true love" or not its really up to you to think it tat way.....by now some people reading will be thinking wat a load of crap...well its up to individual to believe and i am one who thinks it does....

:D

[Deztruct]

Each time I see a gal I liked, I would tell myself to give it one last shot… I do not want to end up my life in such loneliness. But failure after failure, I cannot help but start to feel like its destiny or somethk. After this most recent screw-up, I jus feel like giving it all up & lead a secluded existence.

sorry for wasting the bandwidth of this thread for my personnal problem :o

juz wanna say tat u not wasting the bandwidth (at least i think so lar)...after all..if u cant even seek comfort in the anonomyity of the net..where else can you?

I, too, am jaded in love..tho mayb not as bad as you are..mayb its not the best advice coming from a person like me..there is this jap sayin i wan to share with pple here.."Fall down 7 times, get up 8 times"..when we fall..we can choose to remain fallen or we can choose to get up again..i might not be the best, the richest, the smartest ard..but at least i choose to seek 1 more time..mayb i will get hurt..mayb i will succeed tis time round..i may neva eva find true love again..there is nothin i can do abt tis..its fate after all..but if i choose to let myself down again n remain hidden in my shell forever..not only i am doin myself a disfavour here..i m hurtin the ger out there who might be really the one for me..

hurting myself? i guess i can live with it..hurting The One? I dunno whether i can live with it anot

[Deztruct]

Each time I see a gal I liked, I would tell myself to give it one last shot… I do not want to end up my life in such loneliness. But failure after failure, I cannot help but start to feel like its destiny or somethk. After this most recent screw-up, I jus feel like giving it all up & lead a secluded existence.

sorry for wasting the bandwidth of this thread for my personnal problem :o

juz wanna say tat u not wasting the bandwidth (at least i think so lar)...after all..if u cant even seek comfort in the anonomyity of the net..where else can you?

I, too, am jaded in love..tho mayb not as bad as you are..mayb its not the best advice coming from a person like me..there is this jap sayin i wan to share with pple here.."Fall down 7 times, get up 8 times"..when we fall..we can choose to remain fallen or we can choose to get up again..i might not be the best, the richest, the smartest ard..but at least i choose to seek 1 more time..mayb i will get hurt..mayb i will succeed tis time round..i may neva eva find true love again..there is nothin i can do abt tis..its fate after all..but if i choose to let myself down again n remain hidden in my shell forever..not only i am doin myself a disfavour here..i m hurtin the ger out there who might be really the one for me..

hurting myself? i guess i can live with it..hurting The One? I dunno whether i can live with it anot

[Deztruct]

Well to me i believe tat, everyone is pair with someone in this world...its really up to each pair to make things work or not, the actions they take, decisions they make to make a r/s workable.."true love" or not its really up to you to think it tat way.....by now some people reading will be thinking wat a load of crap...well its up to individual to believe and i am one who thinks it does....

:D

i for one think the same as you also..i guess there is only 2 choice..either u feel tat there is really The One for you or you think there is not..

If I think tat there is..at least I have hopes, I noe tat with hopes comes disappointment..but at tis pt of my life..hope might be the only thing i hv now..if i dun even hv hope now..i am juz a nothing..a little dot in the sea of pple

[Deztruct]

I'm not a poor beggar or criminal but yet feel so pathetic over an apparent trival aspect of my life--- being unable to find the love i want

somehow when i read thru ur post..i hv these tots..if its so easy to find the love we wan..wld we hv treasure it when we hv it? sometimes we need to meet some wrong pple so tat we will treasure the rite one when she comes along our life

[surfer888]

somehow when i read thru ur post..i hv these tots..if its so easy to find the love we wan..wld we hv treasure it when we hv it? sometimes we need to meet some wrong pple so tat we will treasure the rite one when she comes along our life

To complicate things even more. Even when you find the one you truly love, she may not be the best person for you.

Its been discussed on another thread about not marrying the one you truly love.

[playboy82]

Since we are at this topic, there’s an issue which I would sincerely seek the advices/comments from bros here. Don’t wish to start another thread on this issue as this is afterall not a aunt agony forum.
But I would like as many advices/comments cos this problem is like something holding me back for a long time.

These 4 years it seems no matter how hard I try, I can’t shake off this strange phenomenon of “no one ever contacting me”. When we meet in school, we could talk & joke as normal. If I asked her out, she may occasionally agree depending if she’s free. But one thing--- she would NEVER ever call or sms me
I mean, even as normal friends, it isn’t too much to just drop a sms once in awhile. It’s as though I never register in her mind when I’m not physically there talking to her. She always friendly towards me, but also in a way largely indifferent/nonchalant towards me. It’s difficult to explain, but u jus know it when u feel u don’t mean much to the other person.
I can accept it if it only occurs for a particular gal, but it seems this happen to every single gal whom I’ve liked or tried to date over this 4 years.

Each time I see a gal I liked, I would tell myself to give it one last shot… I do not want to end up my life in such loneliness. But failure after failure, I cannot help but start to feel like its destiny or somethk. After this most recent screw-up, I jus feel like giving it all up & lead a secluded existence.

sorry for wasting the bandwidth of this thread for my personnal problem :o

Same case, same tots, same feeling, these yrs, i am so alone, especially during weekends, where all my friends would go pak +++ wif their beloved gf while i, will be all alone at home, no where to go, and i have been drinking a lot at home these day, actually i drink becos i dunno wat else to do other than to drink and surf sammyboy, FYI i dun smoke, haha.

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

On top of it, she's from Japan
The one thing I miss about her now are her yelps of "Kimocheeeee!"

Japunese!!!!wah piang..so envious!!!!:(

[vesfreq]

Same case, same tots, same feeling, these yrs, i am so alone, especially during weekends, where all my friends would go pak +++ wif their beloved gf while i, will be all alone at home, no where to go, and i have been drinking a lot at home these day, actually i drink becos i dunno wat else to do other than to drink and surf sammyboy, FYI i dun smoke, haha.

Same thing here. Year after year, month after month, week after week, day after day. Finally, meet a girl I like. Then, she so busy with work. Ask her out, she busy. Anytime, she is only busy/ sleeping/ family gathering. Like that, also don't what chance I got. Close buddy told me to be patient. I see the situation like that, what patience.... patience will only lead me to nowhere. Everytime busy with something. I make way by adjusting my OT, but still like that.

Initially, can talk for hours. Now, not even 1/2 hour, she got to go liao. :( Soon, I will end up drinking like you. I don't smoke too. I might end up dying young before I hit 50, after kena this kind of "so close yet so far" BS. If I see the man up there soon, I will tell him about the rest of the heart broken guys here, esp how F up relationship on earth is.

[covenn]

Same case, same tots, same feeling, these yrs, i am so alone, especially during weekends, where all my friends would go pak +++ wif their beloved gf while i, will be all alone at home, no where to go, and i have been drinking a lot at home these day, actually i drink becos i dunno wat else to do other than to drink and surf sammyboy, FYI i dun smoke, haha.

hey bros, y dun u guys meet up n hang out tgt. definitely better than individually feelin lonely rite. no gfs, can still have frens ma. best wishes to u guys

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

Initially, can talk for hours. Now, not even 1/2 hour, she got to go liao. :( Soon, I will end up drinking like you. I don't smoke too. I might end up dying young before I hit 50, after kena this kind of "so close yet so far" BS. If I see the man up there soon, I will tell him about the rest of the heart broken guys here, esp how F up relationship on earth is.

there are always 2 sides to a coin.on Earth there are happy endings and also sob tradegies.We cant decide what we gonna have but we need to accept what's coming no matter what."She" will come someday,somewhere.:)

[Kyser Soze]

Same thing here. Year after year, month after month, week after week, day after day. Finally, meet a girl I like. Then, she so busy with work. Ask her out, she busy. Anytime, she is only busy/ sleeping/ family gathering. Like that, also don't what chance I got. Close buddy told me to be patient. I see the situation like that, what patience.... patience will only lead me to nowhere.
I'm one of those losers who can't get a girl. I'm not sure how old you are now. But one thing for sure in my case is that time is not on my side. I'm reaching 30 soon. Most younger girls will go for younger guys, while ladies around my age are either someone's wife or someone's mum. I'm also starting to have that kind of 'uncle syndrome' (this is what some female colleagues commented). Like you, I'm running out of patience and choice. Or, in fact, no choice. What lies ahead of me is either to get a PRC or a Vietnamese wife. I'm not poking fun at myself. With my ordinary looks and unimpressive salary, I doubt local single girls will give me a chance. :(

[surfer888]

Japunese!!!!wah piang..so envious!!!!:(

You wouldn't be too envious if you have a Japanese stalker. Fatal attraction keeps playing in my mind.

[jinrenhe]

this jap sayin i wan to share with pple here.."Fall down 7 times, get up 8 times"..when we fall..we can choose to remain fallen or we can choose to get up again..i might not be the best, the richest, the smartest ard..but at least i choose to seek 1 more time..mayb i will get hurt..mayb i will succeed tis time round..i may neva eva find true love again..there is nothin i can do abt tis..its fate after all..but if i choose to let myself down again n remain hidden in my shell forever..not only i am doin myself a disfavour here..i m hurtin the ger out there who might be really the one for me..



thanx for the encouraging words bro... rely appreciate it

can understand where u're coming from cos i too have this "underdog sentiments" at times. Whether it's study or personnal life, i always seem to be one step behind others... always have to put in more effort than others to achieve the same results.
But still i believe as long i dun give up, slowly step by step i can reach my destination.

However relationship & that subtle sense of loneliness is one area of my life which i can't seem to improve, no matter what i do.

I don't smoke too. I might end up dying young before I hit 50, after kena this kind of "so close yet so far" BS. If I see the man up there soon, I will tell him about the rest of the heart broken guys here, esp how F up relationship on earth is.

Bro playboy & Vesfreq, i dun smoke too! My only indulgence is perhaps getting addicted to sammyboy & a period where i drink to forget my unhappiness.

[jinrenhe]

Same case, same tots, same feeling, these yrs, i am so alone, especially during weekends, where all my friends would go pak +++ wif their beloved gf while i, will be all alone at home, no where to go, and i have been drinking a lot at home these day, actually i drink becos i dunno wat else to do other than to drink and surf sammyboy, FYI i dun smoke, haha.

I know how it feels. I've been stuck in this state for nearly 4 years plus, which is beginning to feel like an eternity..
Every weekend and special occasions (e.g. xmas, eve of public hols), all my peers would naturally have that someone to spend with, where they make plans for movie, dinner, some spend a short holiday oversea etc
And i'll have "no choice" and routinely be alone at home... it's not as thou i have no money or am physically handicapped, but i'll be strangely excluded from the mainstream crowd simply cos i'm alone.

[rodeo77]

And i'll have "no choice" and routinely be alone at home... it's not as thou i have no money or am physically handicapped, but i'll be strangely excluded from the mainstream crowd simply cos i'm alone.Cheer up, bro! Christmas is just around the corner ;) Maybe you will meet someone special during this festive season :)

Good luck ya !

[surfer888]

I know how it feels. I've been stuck in this state for nearly 4 years plus, which is beginning to feel like an eternity..
Every weekend and special occasions (e.g. xmas, eve of public hols), all my peers would naturally have that someone to spend with, where they make plans for movie, dinner, some spend a short holiday oversea etc
And i'll have "no choice" and routinely be alone at home... it's not as thou i have no money or am physically handicapped, but i'll be strangely excluded from the mainstream crowd simply cos i'm alone.

One suggestion. Playstation and Xbox. It always keeps me going when I'm alone. There are times when I prefer them to sex.

[hoosdathu]

it's ok pal, cheong n have fun while u can. don't worry, married family life will come along then that time u can't do what u can do now anymore. seize the day :)

[tellmiwhy]

I'm one of those losers who can't get a girl. I'm not sure how old you are now. But one thing for sure in my case is that time is not on my side. I'm reaching 30 soon. Most younger girls will go for younger guys, while ladies around my age are either someone's wife or someone's mum. I'm also starting to have that kind of 'uncle syndrome' (this is what some female colleagues commented). Like you, I'm running out of patience and choice. Or, in fact, no choice. What lies ahead of me is either to get a PRC or a Vietnamese wife. I'm not poking fun at myself. With my ordinary looks and unimpressive salary, I doubt local single girls will give me a chance.

bro, not to worry lar. reaching 30 is the peak for guys nt the dwnfall. i'm onli mid 20s but my clients who are aunties call me uncle if they dunno my name. :( jus wan to tell u nt to worry too much, ur turn wil come eventualli...some guys chances came earlier but some later. i had a friend of mine who remained single until mid 30s then found his gf who became his wife nw. dun dispair, jus tat the person for u have nt yet appear onli. although alot of times we feel tat local gals are much mre demanding, but nt everyone. There are stil local gals who are very nice and nt those materialistic kind.

no problemz de.

cheers

[asdfghjkl]

my 3 manager friend.. all 40+ also no GF yet.. sianz half liao.. :o

[surfer888]

I'm one of those losers who can't get a girl. I'm not sure how old you are now. But one thing for sure in my case is that time is not on my side. I'm reaching 30 soon. Most younger girls will go for younger guys, while ladies around my age are either someone's wife or someone's mum. I'm also starting to have that kind of 'uncle syndrome' (this is what some female colleagues commented). Like you, I'm running out of patience and choice. Or, in fact, no choice. What lies ahead of me is either to get a PRC or a Vietnamese wife. I'm not poking fun at myself. With my ordinary looks and unimpressive salary, I doubt local single girls will give me a chance. :(

As mentioned before, reaching 30 is not too late. I had just a handful of GFs in my teens, a few in my early twenties... the frequency was increased when nearing 30s and once in 30s, the floodgates seemed to open and there were more girls available than I could handle. Crunch time came when I was about to walk down the aisle with 3 different women and had to make a calculated decision to choose just one. I'm in my mid 30s now, married and have for the moment stopped my affairs to spend time with my son (except for the occasional paid HJs).

[vesfreq]

I'm one of those losers who can't get a girl. I'm not sure how old you are now. But one thing for sure in my case is that time is not on my side. I'm reaching 30 soon. Most younger girls will go for younger guys, while ladies around my age are either someone's wife or someone's mum. I'm also starting to have that kind of 'uncle syndrome' (this is what some female colleagues commented). Like you, I'm running out of patience and choice. Or, in fact, no choice. What lies ahead of me is either to get a PRC or a Vietnamese wife. I'm not poking fun at myself. With my ordinary looks and unimpressive salary, I doubt local single girls will give me a chance.

I'm coming to 30 soon. I think I also quite heng. Met this gal years back, but never quite knew her. Bumped into her recently and she is single and available. Sometimes, its like fate.

The man up there really make it (not say difficult) challenging. She is willing to accept me, in due time. But, work is taking a toll on her personal time. I was also thinking about a Viet wife, until this gal implied that she would accept me eventually. Its like heng suay. If heng, just cherish. If suay, then bo pian.

Point is, don't act like uncle lah. Be outgoing and cheerful. Guess gals like guys who speak their mind (intelligently) and conduct themselves with maturity. Optimism makes a difference too.

I have been a SBF member since the delphi days and coming to 30 soon. Everything to begin with is that we need to believe that whatever we do is right. I learnt never to wait for gal to take initiative. Girls typically want to be led by a guy they like.

Few would even step forward to ask if a guy would hold their hand. Initially, I almost didn't make it far with this gal. It was only when I decided to just make a difference this time out, instead of taking the backseat. Waiting does nothing. At least, trying may (and often will) make a difference.

As for myself, I'm an ordinary guy. I just like to do charity work and help people. My salary isn't spectacular, though I could afford a Zoom Zoom. The most impt thing is oneself. Great men succeed, often, because they realise that it all begins with oneself. The evidence? Well, the word "Oneself" is before the word "Success" in the dictionary. :D

Merry x'mas to all bros and sis. Time flies. Sob Sob.

[Deztruct]

Haa..i also reaching 30s soon..been with sammyboy since the delphi days

when the festival seasons come..somehow i juz wan to avoid things...i wld purposely choose to travel during such occassions..mayb its juz me..everytime i met with any unhappy incidents..my first tot is to run away..as far as possible and for for as long as possible..

i not a coward i guess..but i juz cant bear to face things

[rodeo77]

As for myself, I'm an ordinary guy. I just like to do charity work and help people. My salary isn't spectacular, though I could afford a Zoom Zoom. The most impt thing is oneself. Great men succeed, often, because they realise that it all begins with oneself. The evidence? Well, the word "Oneself" is before the word "Success" in the dictionary. :DWords of wisdom from a jolly good chap ;)

[covenn]

bro vesfreq, so u found a gf aredy? ha thats a gd news n also an excellent encouragement for bros here. best wishes man....

[axeman24]

Well guys, don't be worried about getting 30 soon. Hey I am 31 turning 32 next month and I don't even have a gf yet or still in the process of finding my soul mate. My friend is 35 he too is still cheonging. Frankly, speaking I have my fair share dating girls from dating websites and thur friends and I am still searching for the right one. To find someone you like to be your gf and ulitmately to be your wife does required effort in a way you need to talk to her find out more about her etc. You won't able able to find one just by sitting at home and think about how miserable you are. If you like a girl and have been going out for quite sometime and you would want her to be your gf you need to make the first move. Ask her and see whats her response if she accept good for you and if she reject you, you can choose to try again or move on. I remember a phase which my boss told me " Rather be a fool for the moment then be a fool for life"

Well just my 2 cents worth on true love. :)

[randyboy73]

Well guys, don't be worried about getting 30 soon...... I remember a phase which my boss told me " Rather be a fool for the moment then be a fool for life"

Well just my 2 cents worth on true love. :)

The irony in life... love is a many splendoured thing that can lead to limitless happiness, but also untold suffering if you choose to love the wrong person.... and the right one comes along....

People will never be contented with what they have.. they may own a merc but tell them that they can own a ferrari instead, all will say yes, just for the thrill and prestige...even for a fleeting moment.

A good mentality would always be to make do with what one has on hand and also make the best out of every situation.. if you think you have done your best, then do not regret your actions or lament your predicament.. life will eventually become a zero sum game where the minuses and the pluses will eventually square up..

cheer up and be merry in the festive period.. to all the married and attached brothers in SBF - merry christmas and may your relationships stay strong and horny... to the unattached and naughty bros..... go party and wish all of you a great happy cheonging festive holiday...

[LengKia]

was having a conversation with a female friend who is single n searching for her soul mate. She agreed and share the mindset that her future husband will not be someone she love most but as long he can take good care and love her. .In fact,she tell me most of her female friends do have such mindsets.

"Love" is not bread to them :D

[Know_yr_role]

i for one think the same as you also..i guess there is only 2 choice..either u feel tat there is really The One for you or you think there is not..

If I think tat there is..at least I have hopes, I noe tat with hopes comes disappointment..but at tis pt of my life..hope might be the only thing i hv now..if i dun even hv hope now..i am juz a nothing..a little dot in the sea of pple


i feel u manz, hows yr prob so far man??

[bombersg]

strong and horny... to the unattached and naughty bros..... go party and wish all of you a great happy cheonging festive holiday...

bro you forgot to add those not are not strong there is always the little blue pills or green pills that ppl can take to make then stand talk for the eve and christmas too hahahaha. MERRY CHRISTMAS to all SAMSTERS and may all your bonking wishes come true :D

[Deztruct]

i feel u manz, hows yr prob so far man??

bad..pass her the watch..for the few weeks after tat..din contact each other at all..then out of a sudden..she ask a frd to pass the watch back to me..i told my frd tat i wld not take it back..n i sms her n tell her to stop all these nonsense..stop the side show of gettin frds ard us to b involved in our problem..stop lyin to me...till now..we neva contact each other..see each other also pretend to look away...

it hurts..but at least i noe its the best way for both of us..to juz stop contacting each other for awhile

[tellmiwhy]

bad..pass her the watch..for the few weeks after tat..din contact each other at all..then out of a sudden..she ask a frd to pass the watch back to me..i told my frd tat i wld not take it back..n i sms her n tell her to stop all these nonsense..stop the side show of gettin frds ard us to b involved in our problem..stop lyin to me...till now..we neva contact each other..see each other also pretend to look away...

it hurts..but at least i noe its the best way for both of us..to juz stop contacting each other for awhile

dun worry bro...it happened to me nt long back...something similar...then my solution was like urs. It reali sucks..but after that i realised its stil the best rather than to carry on wif the situation. Cheer upz bro.

tellmiwhy

[tellmiwhy]

sorry..dbl post.

[lawrence86]

this may seem out of the topic

but do anyone or did anyone write poems for their girlfriends?? or ex girlfriends??

yes, i used to write them too... sadly..

[Deztruct]

dun worry bro...it happened to me nt long back...something similar...then my solution was like urs. It reali sucks..but after that i realised its stil the best rather than to carry on wif the situation. Cheer upz bro.

tellmiwhy

yeah..agree with u...rather b hurt now than to keep draggin on the thing with no clear happy ending in sight..we all did wat we tot were rite at tat pt of time..now tat its no longer correct..time to move on

[Deztruct]

this may seem out of the topic

but do anyone or did anyone write poems for their girlfriends?? or ex girlfriends??

yes, i used to write them too... sadly..

wrote alot but in the end neva show them..haha

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

wrote alot but in the end neva show them..haha

well bro u nv know when u will need them in the future.;)

[jinrenhe]

bad..pass her the watch..for the few weeks after tat..din contact each other at all..then out of a sudden..she ask a frd to pass the watch back to me..i told my frd tat i wld not take it back..n i sms her n tell her to stop all these nonsense..stop the side show of gettin frds ard us to b involved in our problem..stop lyin to me...till now..we neva contact each other..see each other also pretend to look away...

it hurts..but at least i noe its the best way for both of us..to juz stop contacting each other for awhile

i understand how it feels...

After my recent screw-up, sometimes i ponder, if only i didn't express my feelings for her & seek a conclusive answer, maybe we could've still remained as frens.
My heart felt a peculiar ache when one of my buddy told me they went out for dinner recently (both of them are frens also). He did ask me along, but i didn't want to go cos i felt it would be awkward seeing her again.

However, i wouldn't want to live my life in regret, wondering about the "what ifs" if i didn't ask. Thou the outcome is not what i wanted, i guess i did all that i reasonably could... it's jus too bad she doesn't feel the same for me..

Bro, i'm glad that u took that important step & got ur answer... at least u wouldn't be guessing the "what ifs" anymore. Take all the time u nd to reflect & recover... u will just move on in time, jus like what i did..

[Shuang_Jie_Gun]

Well..life is not always about what we wish to get,most of the time is what we try to get and sad to say also most of the time we failed to get what we want.:(

[Deztruct]

Take all the time u nd to reflect & recover... u will just move on in time, jus like what i did..

life goes on...fall down 7 times..get up the 8th :D

[vesfreq]

bro vesfreq, so u found a gf aredy? ha thats a gd news n also an excellent encouragement for bros here. best wishes man....

Nah, still pending approval. Well, its all about falling down and getting up. Its only human to feel bad, after failing once or twice.

Having self confidence and reciprocation from her made the difference. I mean, sometimes the gal might be waiting for guy to make the move.

At least, I won't live to regret not trying. She was also somewhat waiting. Have to be thick skinned and brave enough to step up and ask sometimes.

Life's greatest mysteries lie just around the corner, only if we are willing to try.

[Know_yr_role]

bad..pass her the watch..for the few weeks after tat..din contact each other at all..then out of a sudden..she ask a frd to pass the watch back to me..i told my frd tat i wld not take it back..n i sms her n tell her to stop all these nonsense..stop the side show of gettin frds ard us to b involved in our problem..stop lyin to me...till now..we neva contact each other..see each other also pretend to look away...

it hurts..but at least i noe its the best way for both of us..to juz stop contacting each other for awhile

i see, shes seems like dun wan to accept any more of yr stuff, is she trying to deny feelings or trying to forget u, either way, seems like she needs some more time to think abt things bro.......xmas holis coming soon, sure a tough hard to swallow period for u....sighs :(

[dirk_diggler]

Hi all the like-minded bros, after seeing all the bros pour their sorrows and heart-wrenching experiences here, will like to say my piece cos I am about to explode if I keep in inside of me, hope all bros will bear with me.

I am much like bro deztruct, I never ever had a gf in my life up to now, cos I was playing all the way in secondary school. Well from JC up to uni, I was the victim of unrequited love. U see, the problem with me was that when I fall for a gal I will really go all out and do everything for her, and it usually takes quite sometime before I recover from all the hurt. I never considered other options other than the gal I truly like.

My present quandary is tat I have fallen for my colleague who has a long time bf, but who treats her like shit,ie he doesn't fetch her from wk,doesn't call her the whole day long and never considered for her well-being at all. On the contary, I have always been there for her through these days tat I started liking her, and I have also expressed my feelings for her through a very conincidental incident. Her ans was that she needed time to sort her thoughts through, and she didn't want me to become the third party in the relationship. As Fate will have it, the day after I expressed my intentions for her, she had this huge quarrel with her bf. The thing is I am in the knowledge that this other colleague of mine has actually fallen for me, she is a nice lady, and would make a gd gf. I actually hate myself for even harbouring the thoughts that should I wait for the gal I like,or try my lot with this other colleague who has actually likings for me. Truth is, the clock is ticking and I am no longer that young to grapple with much heartache. Bros here, if you were me, what would u do?

[Know_yr_role]

Hi all the like-minded bros, after seeing all the bros pour their sorrows and heart-wrenching experiences here, will like to say my piece cos I am about to explode if I keep in inside of me, hope all bros will bear with me.

I am much like bro deztruct, I never ever had a gf in my life up to now, cos I was playing all the way in secondary school. Well from JC up to uni, I was the victim of unrequited love. U see, the problem with me was that when I fall for a gal I will really go all out and do everything for her, and it usually takes quite sometime before I recover from all the hurt. I never considered other options other than the gal I truly like.

My present quandary is tat I have fallen for my colleague who has a long time bf, but who treats her like shit,ie he doesn't fetch her from wk,doesn't call her the whole day long and never considered for her well-being at all. On the contary, I have always been there for her through these days tat I started liking her, and I have also expressed my feelings for her through a very conincidental incident. Her ans was that she needed time to sort her thoughts through, and she didn't want me to become the third party in the relationship. As Fate will have it, the day after I expressed my intentions for her, she had this huge quarrel with her bf. The thing is I am in the knowledge that this other colleague of mine has actually fallen for me, she is a nice lady, and would make a gd gf. I actually hate myself for even harbouring the thoughts that should I wait for the gal I like,or try my lot with this other colleague who has actually likings for me. Truth is, the clock is ticking and I am no longer that young to grapple with much heartache. Bros here, if you were me, what would u do?


firstly, u can try to watch the movie The HOliday, i caught it last nite..its abt xmas r/s romantic movie..tells a lil abt how to handle r/s...

jokes aside..

its all natural for all to think for themselves...the truth is, the colleague which has a long term bf is MAYBE seeking attention from her bf...she maybe jus using u as way to get her bf's attention...u know wat i mean...so she may not be as INTO u as u think... whereas on the other hand you have a gal coming to u and telling you her feelings...she hopes u fall for her too, are u? ask yourself this qn...u are jus like a kid in a toys dept now..... my advice is , u cant have the best of both world..take yr pick and dun regret.......

ask yourself if u like the gal who told u her feelings...or your heart lies with another one...or none of the above as u are jus have a crush on both gals...yes its complicated...welcome to the world of falling in love...nothing is as messy as love....:D

[surfer888]

At least, I won't live to regret not trying. She was also somewhat waiting. Have to be thick skinned and brave enough to step up and ask sometimes.

Life's greatest mysteries lie just around the corner, only if we are willing to try.

Totally agree. The worst thing in life is regretting not trying and spending your whole life wondering "what if..."

My motto when it comes to matters of the heart... do first, think later... but meanwhile harden your heart and put on your safety belts and brace for a hard fall.

[vesfreq]

Totally agree. The worst thing in life is regretting not trying and spending your whole life wondering "what if..."

My motto when it comes to matters of the heart... do first, think later... but meanwhile harden your heart and put on your safety belts and brace for a hard fall.

And, most important thing is always have the "Safety helmet" for the little bro. :D

Its a tough one. Gals are hard to understand on one hand, yet it is a joy to find the right one to spend time with.

Going out with this gal I like can be quite tricky. Already holding hands, but she don't really want it to be known openly. The path in a relationship can be shaky. What to believe and what not to believe? But, just have to try and stop thinking too much, like you said.

Its friday man. Time to kick the road and zoom zoom. Merry x'mas people.

[axeman24]

its all natural for all to think for themselves...the truth is, the colleague which has a long term bf is MAYBE seeking attention from her bf...she maybe jus using u as way to get her bf's attention...u know wat i mean...so she may not be as INTO u as u think... whereas on the other hand you have a gal coming to u and telling you her feelings...she hopes u fall for her too, are u? ask yourself this qn...u are jus like a kid in a toys dept now..... my advice is , u cant have the best of both world..take yr pick and dun regret.......

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Haizzz.... thats why I hate this type of girls used us men to make their bf jealous in the end who lose out, we do. KNN, I remember once when I kena like this before and good think I found out earlier and I fuck the girl upside down in front of all my ex-colleague (Whom was also my ex-colleague) till she cry and my boss call me in to his room after that to find out what happen. Anyway that time I have already tender and was about to left the company for another job so just let go. After I left I heard she left to cause she was too pai say to stay on. Think of it now I can laugh but at that moment I was so damn piss off with this girl.

[playboy82]

well, jus knock off from work, and seems like the most difficult part of single hood is that when you are feeling super down, as you got no special someone to date for christmas and yet in front of all ur colleugue, you still must pertend to be happy, must force a happy face out, when you know it is almost mission impossible when they braging in front of you where they go with their loves one, how will they spend the christmas... its jus so... i dunno how to say..

[vesfreq]

well, jus knock off from work, and seems like the most difficult part of single hood is that when you are feeling super down, as you got no special someone to date for christmas and yet in front of all ur colleugue, you still must pertend to be happy, must force a happy face out, when you know it is almost mission impossible when they braging in front of you where they go with their loves one, how will they spend the christmas... its jus so... i dunno how to say..

u r not alone also. After work, I went for a spin. Its hard to stay happy, when fact is that (deep inside us) there may be something bugging us. Its harder still to keep that happy smile and say that "I'm really really happy" and show that very wide grin.

I find it hard sometimes too. So what if there is someone we like. Its always like trying hard and harder and even harder to keep that motivation alive and keep going. It takes days/ weeks/ months/ years to build up this motivation, but takes lesser than a few moments to lose it. Nothing comes easy, at least that is what the man up there has somewhat promised.

Keeping that motivation, sometimes, becomes so difficult that its like telling yourself that things will be alright after getting through the hurdles, but point is that these hurdles are never very visible.

It takes one or two of these hurdles to bring down the motivation and lose everything. Things that were hard won end up lost overnight. To stay on and remain motivated or not? The question of whether to sustain motivation and keep trying becomes even harder to answer.

Whether single or attached, this motivation keeps us alive. Without it, it can be frightening. For singles, the sight of couples walking merrily down the streets is even more daunting.