Nightlife in Chiang Rai/Mae Sai

[treex]

Hi folks. I will be heading and staying in this location for weeks because my parents live there - just wondering, since I've lost touch with this place for 6 years, any nightlife there that allow girls for sexual activities?

If not, any recommended locations got girls at least to see, and hopefully chance upon? Someone recommended Wang Thong pub in Mae Sai, but I doubt this is good. Its a secluded place, but if anyone's been there - kindly advise. Thanks!

[vmtech]

*looks around for pussyman72*

:rolleyes:

[Cupnoodle]

Well, my parents have a home in BKK. I will be in BKK earlier 2 days before my family because they have to settle some property issues in Hatyai. So i hope that made it a little clearer.

I have been to Bangkok before, in fact like 10 times - and i'm only 19! But i haven't been to those areas before. Can you advice which part of Bkk are those bars? As mentioned, taxis are relatively cheap, but I mean, Bkk is huge! Are there any provinces/hotel recommendations that are like 5-10 mins from those scenes?

Also, I'd be more than willing to try your tips to persuade the girl to come over. However, if I'm looking for overnight options, what do you have to recommend? Are those girls allowed to stay overnight? And which bars would you recommend for girls around 16-19 years age group - at least can relate better la, me so innocent and young, lol! Also, how are the damages like?

Lastly, it shouldn't be awkward if I'm going alone right? I'm going to budget myself of course - get the best deal for the best girl. I ever considered a social escort, but they're freaking expensive for those nice 19 year olds. Moreover, the agencies don't respond to overseas numbers because they appear as private numbers on their answering machines. So i cannot enquire :( My 1st time going to find a girl in Bkk, its going to my 2nd time bonking! Lol, first time was last night, in GL with a PRC FL. Hopefully girls in Bkk are much more accomodating and gf-like.

I plan to change about 700SGD to spend in thailand over 3 nights. (escorts and bar and cheap cheap hotel) How much will that compute into THB so i can budget my daily spendings.

Just to enquire - if i get an escort, but i stay in a 800baht 3 star hotel, it won't be frowned upon by the girl right? also, there are many room types and bed types - so which is the proper but cheap one ah? they got so many.. like double twin, single twin ... i just want a simple double bed, cheap cheap can already. thanks.

Erm, to clarify, I speak thai very fluently. It's just that i haven't embarked on a specific trip to such a red light district before within the Bkk area since I'm still young.

Ok, to my understanding, I should go to Nataree? Is that a vicinity or a name of a bar? Mmm, sorry ah, i got no hope with girls. So how should i approach the lady? I just see a girl I like, just ask if can Overnight, then negotiate the damages?

What is with the bar fines and stuff? Am i liable for that? And what are the charges for actually? Also, is there any like 1000/b a night hotel recommendations by anyone? Mmm, based that i stay in Sukhumvit area i suppose. I've seen a few hotels charging cheaply, but are they a problem for bringing in a guest for the night? The girl-friendly hotels freaking expensive la.. Erm, for transport, i think taxis not a problem, i speak thai, so its cool.

Is it appropriate to ask to see her age by any chance? And how much should i bring on such a trip. I don't know the market prices for such places. What if i get touted or mobbed? Can i reject? Lol, i very scared la. Need reassurance. The below 20's usually offer ON also eh? Mmm, interesting. How much am i supposed to reserve aside should i want a pretty decent looking girl, say like typical schoolgirl standard - normal looking, but with a tad of extra features. And what am i entitled to do with her? Would that be any restrictions, or they'll be like an escort - doing everything to please you? Also, i've heard some mention about nana, soi cowboy and patpong. Are those the different locations? Say if i choose to go to soi cowboy, are the girls there still decent looking or are they really BAD? I've got this website for this escort: www.bangkok-platinum.com/pammy.html - i'm actually interested in girls probably of this standard. Too much to ask?

Lastly, if i'm 19, i can make a reservation for a hotel there beforehand right? The girls won't probably look down on me i guess? And could someone break down the costs of the total dmgs of everything please, so i could be mentally prepared.

Erm, let's put it this way la, 400SGD for girls on 2 nights. That's probably like 4000B for LT. And how long's the duration? Since I'm pretty young, some peeps suggest I head to Nataree, cos the girls are like 16-20 - around my age lol. What is Nataree anyways? A pub, place? Any other places with the age of such girls?

What are the bar fines? Am i liable to pay for them? Also, i don't know the standard of girls there, so far any bad experience? Also, any tips on approaching the girls and negotiating? I can speak fluent thai, but i scared later nervous, then speak english better lol. how should i ask - but they understand english?

please advice on procedure.. this bro only 19

ps: i have credit card redemptions on hotels in the city, and my parents footing my airfare and everything. I claim to be going there on a trip with friends lol. So please advise.

well, my mom is a pure thai-chinese, and i've been to thailand almost every year for probably a month. despite this, i've yet to travel to the nightlife scene, thus it's pretty much of a culture shock to me.

reasons for quoting for syts is because given my age, it feels awkward having someone older to do it for ya - its very weird. moreover, i do understand there are lots of choices to choose from, but it would be nice to have a few reliable tips to assist me through this period.

as for my budget, i mean, i will be bringing much more than what i mentioned obviously, but my intention is to get the best deal for my buck. anyways, i'll probably just go there and figure out myself how best to handle the situation.

and lastly, and establishments in sg/th offer better exchange rates? so i can get best value? thanks. golden mile?

I am now in the midst of packing for my trip I'll be staying Majestic Grande for 4 nights. Anyways, maybe someone can lastly advice me further on the following please!

1) I'm new to the scene (2nd time doing it), what should I be wary about in Thailand Massage Parlor Scene? I heard its 2 hours, 1 shot right? Smooching and Fingering for instance, allowed?

2) Since I'll be in Sukhumvit, any proper recommendations? I'm heeding some bros' advice by going Thong Lor 26, and IRIE perhaps. Also, I might require some outcalls - these establishments offer them right? For clarification, Thong Lor and IRIE provides the added services right?

Are there anything else I should be cautious about in those establishments? I'm only 19, so if anything, it would be much be so helpful to me (although I'm fluent in Thai)

PS: Lastly, escort services not reliable is it? I've noticed a few nice girls on Five Star Escort. 9/10 of the previous escort agencies seem to have closed down - I can't make my mind how to spend the days there.

I will be going on 26th February to BKK, and I'll be residing in the Ambassador Suite in Davis Bangkok. Just wondering, if I have some guests with me, which bars would be best to bring them to? They're looking for something interesting, with novelty shows, and perhaps partial nude dancing and the works. Any recommendations would be much appreciated.

They are also particular about looks and SYTs - so best if you guys can recommendation a winner for me!

If you can speak fluent thai, you don't need to ask the people here. Because the people here all cannot speak as fluent as you.

If you do not have enough money to cheong, you have to ask your parents to give you more money. Tell your parents you are going for a praying trip, or going to do Tamboon for poor kids. On the pretext of doing good deeds and building good karma, this is one of the ways for you to get more money from your papa and mama so that your dick can cheong to his heart's content.

***Remember that to tell the girls that you booked, that the money you gave them is your papa and mama's hardearned money. If you tell them that, there is a possibility you can get them to give you some discounts.

Every year is 19 yr old, speak fluent Thai, have a home in BKK, been to thailand almost every year for probably a month!

[adidas88]

Every year is 19 yr old, speak fluent Thai, have a home in BKK, been to thailand almost every year for probably a month!

23/03/2007 = 19 yrs old
10/02/2008 = 19 yrs old :eek:

maybe his birthday fall between 11/02 to 22/03 ... thus he's still 19 .. :D:D

parents have home in BKK .. why booked hotel ??
parents have home in Chiang Rai too .... :eek:

[vmtech]

exactly, he is forever planning his trip

in this thraed say going this date, den other thread say going another week later. haha dunno which 1 is true.

[treex]

Aiyo.. to clarify all doubts - I'm turning 20 on 29th Feb. Leap year baby. Secondly - parents got house in Mae Sai and in BKK - I'm going to visit my parents in the north first before leaving south to BKK alone.

I said before already, when I was 18, they somewhat didn't allow me to book/check in because of my age. Now they allow, that's why I am going.

These are my flight details:

TG 402, Depart 0810 (SIN-BKK)
TG 130, Depart 1350 (BKK-CEI)

TG 1133, Depart 1020 (CEI-DMK)

TG 409, Depart 1635 (BKK-SIN)

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[vmtech]

These are my flight details:


and ur pt being? anyway you seemed to be planning this trip forever, and since the 1st time you posted, (you even PMed me) you have asked the same qns over and over again.

SYTs in MP, do they auto provide special, issit a must to tip or not, agg which 1 got SYT.

dude. i believe on the umpteen times bros here have shot you and replied you, you should have already gotten your answer long ago.
You type very well, so i suppose you read well too? or maybe u have a short term memory? it's ok! that's what the search function is for!!!!

[pocketrocket]

and ur pt being? anyway you seemed to be planning this trip forever, and since the 1st time you posted, (you even PMed me) you have asked the same qns over and over again.

SYTs in MP, do they auto provide special, issit a must to tip or not, agg which 1 got SYT.

dude. i believe on the umpteen times bros here have shot you and replied you, you should have already gotten your answer long ago.
You type very well, so i suppose you read well too? or maybe u have a short term memory? it's ok! that's what the search function is for!!!!

Where is he going again? (My short term memory failure relapsed again) :p :D

[adidas88]

Aiyo.. to clarify all doubts - I'm turning 20 on 29th Feb. Leap year baby.

OMG .... me only joking abt his birthdate and it came truth ??:eek:
Me better start predicting TOTO numbers now .... :D

[pussyman72]

*looks around for pussyman72*

aye how come my name kanna mention ah :eek: piang i only play chiangrai once lei, when my dear in temple. LOL

Maesai no chance to play lei last time ex stay there cannot fark ard but i know got ktv n pub near wangtong and maesai further down heading towards maechan got one, hang flower de hehehehe :D there is a BM disco in maesai maybe can try luck get a girl for a shot.

ah yo he 19 yo lei mai teach him bad lei. later go there kanna chop. speak thai dee mak ah then no problem looking for girls liao ma. ask hotel bell boy lar sure can get for u. :P

[yinyang]

Where is he going again? (My short term memory failure relapsed again)
..believe on the umpteen times bros here have shot you and replied you, you should have already gotten your answer long ago.
You type very well, so i suppose you read well too? or maybe u have a short term memory? it's ok! that's what the search function is for!!!!
Maybe hard disk kena re-format liao? Thought age only static with ladies 30 going on 31 forever?:p

[vmtech]

kanna own liao, i guess he wont be going bangkok already? hahaha

[pussyman72]

kanna own liao, i guess he wont be going bangkok already? hahaha


aye i wanna go isan lei i have one house in korat n one house in udon tahni. can u tell me any good place to play there. im now 26 after bday also 26. i got air ticket to proved i going there :D :p

[Mr.romantic]

knn this treex is another clown. hahaha. :D

[pocketrocket]

Maybe hard disk kena re-format liao? Thought age only static with ladies 30 going on 31 forever?:p

Groundhog Day :confused:

[Cum_Luver]

hi pussyman72,

ta ke and my long lost buddy..how are you getting on ???
i suppose must be veri the good good hor.
so long nv hear from you,though you MIA liao..

[Sabai_Sabai]

Heard that there are a lot of chinese speaking girls there, and also very fair like us. In fact they are chinese kou ming dang decendant, also aroung the north eastern side, Laos and thai border, but have not explore yet. Anybody has any experience, or lobang about where to find these chinese speaking girls?

[Volume]

U visit Mai sae very offen?

[Volume]

there is chinese girl over there...

[bobosasa]

there is chinese girl over there...

I use to go to Mae Sai once every 2 weeks, so let me share a little of what is there in terms of "nightlife" in Mae Sai.

1) BM Disco, the only disco in town, need to go after 11pm, may see some nice thai yai chicks. Unless you are damn handsome, can speak fluent thai or thai yai, unlikely to get lucky. This is not a pick up joint. It is where townfolks and ex-GL, ex-WL go spend money have fun with their friends.

2) "Ca-fare" like joint. This is similar to the Ca-fare in BKK, where it is a pub/restaurant like place where chicks sits with you and also go up stage to sing song every now and then and you are suppose to buy them flower ring. Some cute thai yai chicks to be found. But beyond talk cock, touch a little bit of hand, there is nothing much you can do. Almost all of them does not go for Short Time. And if you don speak thai, chances is zero. Damage is very modest, food at most 200-250B per pax, drinks - one bottle is about 400B. Tip 50-100B, flower ring - 50B.

There are a few of these in Mae Sai: One in Ban Pa Muet, just not far straight down from the PTT petrol kiosk junction if you are coming from the centre of town towards chiang rai direction. Another 2-3 on both side of the road towards golden triangle direction. Turn left at the PTT junction.

3) Freelancer - if you are staying in Wang Thong hotel, the bell boy at the door can get chicks to your doorstep. Offer a few times but did not try. 1500B ST

4) Behind Wang Thong - there is a row of low houses which are brothels, mostly burmese and akha girls, few thai yai girls, quality are low. Damage unknown. Din have guts to go in and ask.

Anyway, you can safely assume that all pretty girls in Mae Sai are rich and have large sum of money sent to them on a monthly basis, so while there are many pretty girls in Mae Sai, the cheong scene there sucks, unless you own one of those pretty girls and friends lah ;)

Of course, once you cross the border into Tachilek, the whole story changes... pills, girls, drinks, gambling all roll into one BIG INTEGRATED RESORT. :) .... But I no expert there, been there just 3-4 times.

[ahyong]

in Techilek foreigners except thais will have to pay 500baht to entry myanmmar for a max 14days visa, u will have to exchange your passport for a temperory pass. techilek market is full of pirated goods, from pirated CDs, VCDs to LV Bags etc... at a very cheap price. Thais love to go over to buy such stuffs.

There are many peoples walking around selling ciggerates at a very cheap price, brothers that smoke pls dont buy even it is so cheap as the ciggerates cannot be smoke at all. Just ignore them and dont talk to them else they will pester u all the way, remember just dont talk to them, they will go off automaticly.

There are many trickshaws parking at the borders to show u around techilek like temples, the famous tribes hill, etc... this will costs about 200 - 300 bahts? for foreigners.

to be continue....

[vmtech]

I use to go to Mae Sai once every 2 weeks, so let me share a little of what is there in terms of "nightlife" in Mae Sai.

Hi bro, glad to see you posting after disappearing for 2 years :)

in Techilek foreigners except thais will have to pay 500baht to entry myanmmar for a max 14days visa, u will have to exchange your passport for a temperory pass. techilek market is full of pirated goods, from pirated CDs, VCDs to LV Bags etc... at a very cheap price. Thais love to go over to buy such stuffs.
.

haha ahyong!, getting familiar there already yea?
anyway just something to add, instead of 500thb, the immigration takes USD10 too. And yes, USD10 OR 500THB. obviously give USD10 because it is only 300THB. why the big difference, i guess the dollar is much preferred by the Myanmar people. :)

[ahyong]

haha ahyong!, getting familiar there already yea?
anyway just something to add, instead of 500thb, the immigration takes USD10 too. And yes, USD10 OR 500THB. obviously give USD10 because it is only 300THB. why the big difference, i guess the dollar is much preferred by the Myanmar people. :)

yo bro welcome back to singapore, how is everything?


there are a few casino at techilek, one of the better one is RESORT, the casino is at basement, there is also a special for VIP that playing big bets. Chips can be exchange in thai baht, other currency also accepted but the rates are sucks, best is use thai baht.

Free foods and drinks provided. Free transport also provided outside the Resort to bring u back to hotel, border, or even back to maesai

anyway casino in Techilek nothing to shout about....

[vmtech]

yo bro welcome back to singapore, how is everything?


there are a few casino at techilek, one of the better one is RESORT, the casino is at basement, there is also a special for VIP that playing big bets. Chips can be exchange in thai baht, other currency also accepted but the rates are sucks, best is use thai baht.

Free foods and drinks provided. Free transport also provided outside the Resort to bring u back to hotel, border, or even back to maesai

anyway casino in Techilek nothing to shout about....


yoyo, well quite ok la, when going back maesai again? go together again leh :P

[ahyong]

yoyo, well quite ok la, when going back maesai again? go together again leh :P

very soon... :p

[CeiResident]

Pii yong ,kop koon nai kwaam wang dee tee mee hai kon tee meut-mua. dtae man kong mai koom kao jai chai mai, ok jaak chee-wit chan bpai mai yaak hai ter ta-lam dtua...:eek:


very soon... :p

[vmtech]

Pii yong ,kop koon nai kwaam wang dee tee mee hai kon tee meut-mua. dtae man kong mai koom kao jai chai mai, ok jaak chee-wit chan bpai mai yaak hai ter ta-lam dtua...:eek:

jialat, say my bad word i also duno u talking what lol

[CeiResident]

So when are we going to uncle yong's new bangalow in mae sai for house warming???:D:D:D

jialat, say my bad word i also duno u talking what lol

[vmtech]

So when are we going to uncle yong's new bangalow in mae sai for house warming???:D:D:D

it's ready already meh?

[ahyong]

i where got bungalow there.... i always stay piyaporn when i go maesai... 800baht/ night :p

[CeiResident]

It was ready long ago, uncle yong planning to acquire another 10 rai of land beside tesco lotus to set up a moo ka ta haven there nia!!!

it's ready already meh?

[CeiResident]

Uncle yong dun be modest, step into the streets of mae sai tell me which villager dunno Uncle Yong from singapore? 34 oni and he has bought the most expensive plot of land near tai thong hotel and hire 3 security guard who used to work for the drug warload khun sa... :D:D:D

Uncle yong when i got troublr can i show them the letter u given me in thai.. Is it a royal pardon???


i where got bungalow there.... i always stay piyaporn when i go maesai... 800baht/ night :p

[vmtech]

i where got bungalow there.... i always stay piyaporn when i go maesai... 800baht/ night :p

wah, den what makes me? my 1 night stopover at maesai was 250/night :X

[CeiResident]

My stay at suk sabaai place cost 180 oni nia :D

[vmtech]

hehe that makes us both damn cheap charlies

[CeiResident]

Ya, unlike our towkay yong, he is buying and buying more rais of land now. making it big in mae sai sia hehe..:D
hehe that makes us both damn cheap charlies

[sexcotty]

planning to visit mae sai soon.

Heard there is hotel/resort named angporn(not sure of spelling). Anyone heard of it?:o

[sohbuckkong]

Hi, on 24 Jan 2017, I and my friend going to Mongla from chiangrai. We have already book AirAsia. Both of us are new to chiangrai and Mongla. So if anybody is going on this date, we would like to follow u.

At the same time would appreciate if members could advice us on anything. Thanks

[Hurricane88]

Hi, on 24 Jan 2017, I and my friend going to Mongla from chiangrai. We have already book AirAsia. Both of us are new to chiangrai and Mongla. So if anybody is going on this date, we would like to follow u.

At the same time would appreciate if members could advice us on anything. Thanks

Bro, pls post in Best of Thailand sub-forum....do you want me to ask boss to move this thread over there...or I closed this thread...:)

[sohbuckkong]

Bro, pls post in Best of Thailand sub-forum....do you want me to ask boss to move this thread over there...or I closed this thread...:)

Move this thread over. Thanks. Now then I know there's a "best of Thailand sub forum".

[sohbuckkong]

I just saw in yahoo there's some fighting at the border town of Burma n Yunnan. I wonder is there any problem going to mongla. Are there any bro going mongla on the 24 Jan.

[BlueDragon193]

Inside Mong La, the Myanmar Town Where You Can Buy Drugs, Sex, and Endangered Animals.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/inside-mong-la-the-myanmar-town-where-you-can-buy-drugs-sex-and-endangered-animals

Mong La: Myanmar's Sin City.

http://www.mmtimes.com/index.php/lifestyle/travel/15777-sin-city.html

Undercover in Myanmar's Sin city where anything goes - BBC News.

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[TonyCheong2]

Want to try Mong La as using RMB as currency.

Mobile signal is also China!
My China mobile no can use in Mong La 555! :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

[1KnightinBKK]

Want to try Mong La as using RMB as currency.

Mobile signal is also China!
My China mobile no can use in Mong La 555! :D

New frontiers ah.. very adventurous bro.. mus start new thread if as sexciting as BKK :D

[lost99]

Bro, pls post in Best of Thailand sub-forum....do you want me to ask boss to move this thread over there...or I closed this thread...:)

I think this is a good idea to start a new Mong La thread, perhaps the only/last wild west sex town in Asia....

[TonyCheong2]

New frontiers ah.. very adventurous bro.. mus start new thread if as sexciting as BKK :D

I think this is a good idea to start a new Mong La thread, perhaps the only/last wild west sex town in Asia....

Mong La is not off the beaten track.
It's super f*cking off the beaten track! :eek:
Almost the same as entering a war zone with temporary seize fire treaty.

PRCs enter illegally just to gamble in the jungles furthur away from the border.
I'm still researching if able to get in Mong La via China side legally.

But the usual route tourist take is air travel to Yangon and then land travel to Special Region 4.
Super far journey.
On the humsup issue the Myanmar Chinese ST rates are dirt cheap. :p

The border town Ruili (Yunnan) also quite cowboy also. :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

[1KnightinBKK]

I'm still researching if able to get in Mong La via China side legally.
But the usual route tourist take is from Yangon and then to Special Region 4. Super far journey.

On the humsup issue the Myanmar Chinese ST rates are dirt cheap.

The border town Ruili (Yunnan) also quite cowboy also. :D

Love these new unexplored territories.. lol.. go there find some SYT and fulfill her dream of dating a foreigner, then we can play out our Korean superstar fantasies :D:cool::p

[lost99]

I'm still researching if able to get in via China side legally.

But the usual route tourist take is from Yangon and then to Special Region 4. Super far journey.

From another site, it appears some foregners have, but of course cannot confirm myself as i haven't been there. Even from China side, it's a long journey.

Need real visa to go to Mong La
Forget to mention, if you go to Mong La from Mae Sai, you need a real visa beforehand, the e visa letter does not work here, if you have visa, you do not need a guide to Mong La. If you go from the China side, most people just cross on a moto taxi without a visa, but it is officially illegal, but I see tons of Chinese do that all day, but one problem is big hotels will not accept customers without official entry stamps, but no worry there are many other hotels many with casino attached, will admit anyone even without any ID.

Another interesting thing is here is officially Myanmar but you see many Chinese police in uniform patrolling the streets.

my 2 pals from 141 site who traveled to China and made their way to the border Daluo, just took the motorbike and crossed the border without any immigration check, seems like all the tourists from China just come over without any travel documents

[TonyCheong2]

Love these new unexplored territories.. lol.. go there find some SYT and fulfill her dream of dating a foreigner, then we can play out our Korean superstar fantasies.

In Mong La confirm can be "Korean Superstar" while eating Monkey brains! :p

From another site, it appears some foregners have, but of course cannot confirm myself as i haven't been there. Even from China side, it's a long journey.

That means crossing from China will be the less hassle way but some form of risk taking is needed.
Non Chinese looking guys definitely cannot pull it off hahaha. :D

Nearest domestic Airport is Xishuangbanna Gasa Airport (JHG) 西双版纳嘎洒国际机场.
I think international flights will only stop at Kunming Changshui International Airport which is still very far from Mong La Town! :eek:

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

[1KnightinBKK]

That means crossing from China will be the less hassle way but some form of risk taking is needed.
Non Chinese looking guys definitely cannot pull it off hahaha. :D

Nearest domestic Airport is Xishuangbanna Gasa Airport (JHG) 西双版纳嘎洒国际机场.
I think international flights will only stop at Kunming Changshui International Airport which is still very far from Mong La Town! :eek:


if make some poor lass pregnant, every time want to visit father and mother hong gan

[TonyCheong2]

if make some poor lass pregnant, every time want to visit father and mother hong gan

Some more the puying most likely no ID and passport and impossible to bring to Singapore to marry also! :eek:

Only way is to pay a lot of kopi money to Mong La warlord to issue you "PR" pass for your family visits liao! :p
Some more damn chum if stay there no job.
Only way is become wild animal hunter or trader! :eek:
Your SAF jungle training really can put to good use liao! :D

*Disclaimer: Some busybody and cocky people claim my info and opinion are misleading as out of touch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

[1KnightinBKK]

Some more the puying most likely no ID and passport and impossible to bring to Singapore to marry also!

Only way is to pay a lot of kopi money to Mong La warlord to issue you "PR" pass for your family visits liao!


Hmm, online articles seem to suggest that most of the FLs there are chinese.. not exactly local..

I think many parts of Thailand still haven't explore finish :D:D

Someone told me Khon Kaen has the most thai daras, so alot of unpolished gems waiting to be unearthed.. :D:D

[TonyCheong2]

Hmm, online articles seem to suggest that most of the FLs there are chinese.. not exactly local..

The Mong La street FLs are Myanmar Chinese.
Not from China. :D

Same like those you see in Dannok's KPK area Clubs and KTVs.
Very fair and you cannot tell they are not PRCs until they talk. :p
After working many years in China I can tell from the accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GL2KOcRze4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LECZtHfjtxg

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[1KnightinBKK]

The Mong La street FLs are Myanmar Chinese.
Not from China. :D

Same like those you see in Dannok's KPK area Clubs and KTVs.
Very fair and you cannot tell they are not PRCs until they talk. :p
After working many years in China I can tell from the accent.

Have to call you Sifu liao, hope on my next visit to LOS can buy you a couple of shots, can't afford hand holding service..

[TonyCheong2]

Have to call you Sifu liao, hope on my next visit to LOS can buy you a couple of shots, can't afford hand holding service..

Haha ok but once I start to drink can become very crazy and joker! :p

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[TonyCheong2]

Another cowboy town to introduce to you guys.

Pangkham (Panghsang) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangkham) at Wa State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wa_State) (Special Region 2), Myanmar. :D

http://raypagnucco.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Pang-Kham.jpeg

http://www.todayonline.com/world/myanmars-remote-wa-state-suffers-fewer-chinese-come-party

PUBLISHED: 10:40 AM, JANUARY 22, 2017

PANGSAN, Myanmar - In a remote casino in northeastern Myanmar, China's pervasive campaign against graft has taken its toll. Hundreds of local traders and farmers place petty bets as low as 10 cents, outnumbering a few Chinese who were once the VIPs of a gambling hall decorated with chandeliers and Renaissance-style paintings.

"The business has been really bad since Chinese tourists stopped coming," said casino waitress Ling Ling who was considering leaving Pangsan, capital of the self-proclaimed Wa State that borders China, to look for better paying jobs.

The three-story gambling parlor, with some 1,000 workers, offers games from jackpot slot machines to high-stakes VIP rooms featuring bets of up to $16,000. It is deep in the Wa hills in one of Asia's poorest regions, where its majority ethnic Wa farmers earn an annual income of $115.

In the statelet the size of Belgium controlled by the United Wa State Army (UWSA), Myanmar's strongest ethnic armed group, the once bustling gambling industry is not the only casualty from the falling number of high-roller mainland punters.

From shopkeepers to moto-taxi drivers, local people said Beijing's tightening of visas for Chinese gamblers traveling to the Wa in recent years - part of the anti-corruption campaign launched by President Xi Jinping - has cast a shadow on livelihoods in the reclusive territory.

The Wa State is now trying to diversify its economy, which relies heavily on China as a market for its exports of rubber and metals such as tin.

Reuters visited the rugged territory in October - a rare trip by a major international news organization that offered a glimpse into the Chinese-speaking statelet of 600,000 people that is beyond the control of Myanmar leader Aung San Suu Kyi's government.

POPPY ERADICATION

The Wa State took shape in 1989, after the Communist Party of Burma disintegrated following a purge by Wa leaders. The 30,000-strong UWSA signed a ceasefire with the Myanmar army shortly afterwards and the two sides have not fought in years.

Wa leaders say the region, which used to grow opium on a vast scale, underwent an eradication campaign against the plant used for production of heroin more than a decade ago. Poppy fields were replaced by plantations, mostly rubber, as well as coffee and tea, they say.

Many plantations are backed by investors from China, alongside businessmen connected to the Wa State leadership. Their "state-supported private companies", as described by several Wa leaders, control key businesses in the territory from gasoline to mining.

"I hope there is more foreign investment so that I can diversify my business," said C Yang, son of a UWSA commander who owns a rubber plantation of 132 acres.

The stocky 25-year-old is typical of the wealthy, if narrow, Wa elite. The rubber plantation affords him a comfortable life in a mansion overlooking Pangsan, and fancy gadgets such as the newest model of iPhone and a fine-tuned Toyota Hilux truck.

All these goods are unattainable for regular citizens in Wa, where life expectancy, at 60, is 5 years below Myanmar and 16 years behind neighboring China. Some Wa farmers rely on a World Food Programme (WFP) operation to supplement what they can produce.

The agency, active throughout the area which has also experienced outbreaks of vaccine-preventable diseases such as tuberculosis, had planned to deliver 152 metric tons of food last year through its community asset creation program.

"We don't have enough doctors and we are in need for medicines. We need help from the international community," said Tun Kyi, who oversees the Wa Healthcare Bureau.

NO OPPORTUNITIES

The Wa education program is in an equally poor state. The illiteracy rate stands at 90 percent, with 83 percent of adults having less than a year of schooling or none at all, according to a 2008 report by Health Poverty Action.

That is in sharp contrast to Myanmar's illiteracy rate of less than 5 percent, based on data from the United Nations.

Business owners and the Wa political elite send their children to China for schooling.

"Their parents want them to learn Chinese and to work in China, because children educated in Wa schools can't join the Chinese education system and have no opportunities," said Wa Wa Myint, a teacher at an elementary school of 700.

Back in downtown Pangsan, bright, neon signs dangling from low-rise hotels, massage parlors and bars light up the main street a few minutes walk from a border crossing with China.

A rowdy birthday party is under way in a two-story karaoke lounge that resembles a Roman temple, with life-size sculptures by its gate.

In a VIP room with a giant screen playing Chinese pop songs, a Wa woman, wearing jade-dotted earrings and a ruby ring, offers her guests China-imported beer, red wine and locally-made liquor.

The hostess challenges her guests to drink as much as they can.

"You can't go home without getting drunk," she says. "This is how we party in Wa." REUTERS

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[TonyCheong2]

This is about as old west frontier as it gets but in the east. :p
Best part is working language is Chinese [Check], mobile signal is from China [Check] and currency of choice is RMB [Check]!
It should a piece of cake and plug and play for me. :D

Via Yangon/Mandalay, Myanmar
Too far away from the border towns of Mong La and Panghsang.

Via Yunnan, China
Too many unknowns via Yunnan, China borders as have to enter Shan State illegally via unofficial channels.
We are not PRCs so cannot take this risk in case get extorted by authorities.
I will follow if any commandos or special forces reece before and lead the charge. :D

Via Chiang Mai/Chiang Rai, Thailand
To get to all these dodgy cowboy towns such as Mong La and Panghsang the best and most cost effective way I think is to take an international flight to Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai.
Cross via Mae Sai/Tachilek land border and proceed via coach to Mong La or Panghsang.

I finally have an excuse to go Chiang Mai liao!
My last trip is in 2005!
Wow it has been 12 years since I stepped into Chiang Mai!
I feel so old 5555! :p

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[Happyman007]

I finally have an excuse to go Chiang Mai liao!
My last trip is in 2005!
Wow it has been 12 years since I stepped into Chiang Mai!
I feel so old 5555! :p

12 years ago CM also cowboy town, now CM is cow girl town.....neh neh big like cow with lots of milk :D

[TonyCheong2]

12 years ago CM also cowboy town, now CM is cow girl town.....neh neh big like cow with lots of milk :D

That means only cowboy towns can excite and entice me to visit.
No wonder I MIA from Chiang Mai so long! :eek:

555 now Chiang Mai loaded big with China man tourist dollars! :p

If I do re-visit Chiang Mai again I must go back to Nimanhaemin to see if I can get back the feel when I was not that jaded and my heart was not so hardened.
Looking on hindsight I may have gained a lot of experience but have lost the sanuk factor.
Sometimes knowing too much spoils the fun. :D

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[sohbuckkong]

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Almost the same as entering a war zone with temporary seize fire treaty.

I'm still researching if able to get in Mong La via China side legally.

But the usual route tourist take is air travel to Yangon and then land travel to Special Region 4.
Super far journey.
On the humsup issue the Myanmar Chinese ST rates are dirt cheap. :p............[/SIZE][/I][/B]

How cheap the ST.
Tmr I fly airasia from SG to chiangrai. From the airport, I hope there's bus to the border. I read that there's a bus from airport to allure resort in Myanmar side near the border. If I can reach Allure resort then I will stay here a night, if not then no choice but to stay overnight in mae sai or tachiliek. Hope to stay only in cheap guest house. Hopefully in mae sai or tachiliek I can find some travel agent to buy a bus ticket to mongla via kengtung. Lastly, I hope there's cheap guesthouse in mongla, even room with only fan is OK for me.
Hopefully in mongla there's cheap motorcycle for rent so that I can explore the town.

And last but not least, I will post my adventure and latest findings here. Hope there's internet access for me to post here live (within 24hrs) .

[1KnightinBKK]

Wah respect..

[TonyCheong2]

How cheap the ST.
Tmr I fly airasia from SG to chiangrai. From the airport, I hope there's bus to the border. I read that there's a bus from airport to allure resort in Myanmar side near the border. If I can reach Allure resort then I will stay here a night, if not then no choice but to stay overnight in mae sai or tachiliek. Hope to stay only in cheap guest house. Hopefully in mae sai or tachiliek I can find some travel agent to buy a bus ticket to mongla via kengtung. Lastly, I hope there's cheap guesthouse in mongla, even room with only fan is OK for me.
Hopefully in mongla there's cheap motorcycle for rent so that I can explore the town.

And last but not least, I will post my adventure and latest findings here. Hope there's internet access for me to post here live (within 24hrs) .

Wow glad that we have you as advance scout to reece first! :D

Mong La street FLs should not be more than ¥100 ST.
There are also KTVs with hostesses catering to PRCs.

Change RMB in Singapore for better rates before you step into Thailand and Shan State.
In such warlord states only cash, gold and bullets accepted. :p
Maybe China credit cards are accepted too.

In Mong La you can stay in cheap Motels run by PRCs.
Under ¥100 per night.
I believe there are more better quality hotels available also.

Mobile and internet all piggy back on China's network.
More advance than the other shitty Myanmar cities. :D

Respect the Army guys, local Myanmar Chinese (KMT decendants) and carry yourself well.
Make Singapore proud by planting the first flag for us there. :p

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[sohbuckkong]

Wow glad that we have you as advance scout to reece first! :D
. :p
Haha Helo Mr TonyCheong2, You r the ace n I hv read all that u post regarding Mongla, I envy u as u hv gone at the time when mongla was at its best.

Thanks for yr advice.

In fact this trip was decided 1.5 mths ago. Because it was a China lady we met in Sihanouk that chio us to go. Before I met her I hv never heard of this place even though this place was discussed many yrs ago in this forum.

In short, I then search the internet, this forum n ISG and regret that I should hv found this place earlier.

Well, is this place still as sinful as it was, the only way is to get in and find out.

Hope to post my first report here tmr night but of course it won't b mongla as I will only reach Mae sai or tachiliek.

[sohbuckkong]

Hi folks, I've nothing much to report except the following.After my plane reach chiangrai, we took a cab 800baht to the border.

We don't hv problems exiting chiangrai but at the Myanmar immigration, we must pay 500baht as the entry fee. They then took photograph of us, kept our passport and hand to us an entry document with our photo in it. They also say we cannot go to mongla because of fighting there.

The town of tachiliek is dead. Allure resort also is dead, no business, only 8 small time gamblers,

[TonyCheong2]

Bro sohbuckkong,

Appreciate your update.
So the recent introduction of visa free entry to Myanmar for Singapore passports does not apply to warlord states within Myanmar 555. :p

From Tachilek you can proceed to kengtung without any permits.
From there you can try your luck but it's a gamble though.
Situation in warlord states always changing. :D

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[sohbuckkong]

Bro sohbuckkong,

Appreciate your update.
So the recent introduction of visa free entry to Myanmar for Singapore passports does not apply to warlord states within Myanmar 555. :p

From Tachilek you can proceed to kengtung without any permits.
From there you can try your luck but it's a gamble though.
Situation in warlord states always changing. :D

ch with Thailand. Please use info at your own discretion.

According to the immigration officer, he says we can't go mongla because there's fighting there. But we r permitted to go keingtung. Last week I saw a report in yahoo saying there's fighting in kokeng near muse n d fighting quite bad. So I was mentally prepared this trip.

Yes, tmr I intent to take a bus go kengtung then try to go mongla from there. Alamak, I'm not afraid because last time I also in army.

But I never let Singaporean down, I gracefully paid the 500baht entry fee with some smile, aiyoo, what else can I do. AnywY, i realise that instead of paying 500baht, u r allowed to pay usd10 instead, so next time whoever wish to go in, just pay usd10 instead of 500 baht.

[TonyCheong2]

According to the immigration officer, he says we can't go mongla because there's fighting there. But we r permitted to go keingtung. Last week I saw a report in yahoo saying there's fighting in kokeng near muse n d fighting quite bad. So I was mentally prepared this trip.

Yes, tmr I intent to take a bus go kengtung then try to go mongla from there. Alamak, I'm not afraid because last time I also in army.

But I never let Singaporean down, I gracefully paid the 500baht entry fee with some smile, aiyoo, what else can I do. AnywY, i realise that instead of paying 500baht, u r allowed to pay usd10 instead, so next time whoever wish to go in, just pay usd10 instead of 500 baht.

Khun sohbuckkong,

I like your adventurous spirit! :D

I think the visa free entry for Singapore passport does not apply to warlord paradise Shan state supported by CIA in the past KNN 555.
The rule of law is the barrel of an AK-47 rifle! :eek:
Lan lan just pay the US$10 entry tax loh. :p

Do keep us updated on your progress! :)

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[sohbuckkong]

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In tachiliek, we went to the bus station to book a bus n o kengtung, the reception ask for our passport and so we told her that our passport with immigration and we show her our entry pass, she then say this pass is only allowed to be within tachiliek, that means cannot go keng tung. So no choice, we leave tachiliek and head towards chiangrai.

Mission failed . end of report.

[siam66]

Mae Sai ... Bus Station ... Kengtung :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCYPErfoEfs.jpg

[Bangkok Master]

In tachiliek, we went to the bus station to book a bus n o kengtung, the reception ask for our passport and so we told her that our passport with immigration and we show her our entry pass, she then say this pass is only allowed to be within tachiliek, that means cannot go keng tung. So no choice, we leave tachiliek and head towards chiangrai.

Mission failed . end of report.

Bro, the best way to get to Kengtung is to fly from Yangon as road trip is dangerous as along the way you might not know what will happen as there will be spot-checks and foreigners will be expected to pay bribes.

From Kengtung, you can engage a driver from MTT tour agency to head to Mong La as it will be a safer choice then to go on your own.

[yinyang]

Hats off to you guys to brave the outback and off the beaten track:p

My only experience was this longish drive from Chiangmai > Chiangrai > Tachilek. But I couldn't cross over as left my passport back in Chiangrai hotel unlike khun thais. Heard the border market across was a mirror image of the thai end.

Last week, I was that close to Myanmar -near mountain area Suan Phueng, Ratchaburi 2.5hrs west of krungthep. Tempted to check border out but then, I had the comforts of a resort (of many there). No 3G network jialat (only wifi to connect to civilisation).

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y525/yypb/dataRfCSdfNZ0LFPrHSm0ublXdzhdrDFhtmHhN1u-gMxR2hme8BGq_mfDSGJI5HdmfX6LnMtYYEH7NKGsf8a98QMaTt JTKiGRV3h1j5Eul_ExeqAHvRdNgdBqnPl_zps9ls4dnrq.png

Chalet, can party on rooftop :p

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y525/yypb/IMG_0757_zpsrl2ha1fk.jpg

[siam66]

:D ... Mong La ( Part 1 ) ... :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuKXbnKWBZU.jpg

[siam66]

:D ... Mong La ( Part 2 ) ... :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqbw_7Vo_eA.jpg

[sohbuckkong]

For bros in chiangrai , i found freelancers controlled by okt in this short and quite dark lane here. 19.901467,99.838062
Only operational at night. ST 1200baht. Most gals age above 22 to milf, very few syt.

[TonyCheong2]

THE FOLLOWING INFO IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE TYPICAL MONGERER WHO HAS NEVER TRAVEL SOLO BEFORE!
IF YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF STREET SMART AND "CRAZY" THEN PLEASE READ ON! :p

I will post research material on this thread for the benefit of Special Forces and Cuntmando soldiers heading to all the shady cowboy border towns.

I'm not afraid of American Style Spenders going to such exotic places and destroy the market rate because they will not have the will and guts to explore those risky destinations. :p

Via China

Xishuangbanna Gasa Airport (JHG) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xishuangbanna_Gasa_Airport)
Kunming Changshui International Airport (KMG) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunming_Changshui_International_Airport)

Nearest Airport to Mong La is Xishuangbanna Gasa Airport but the air ticket prices cost a bomb even if you fly from Guangzhou (CAN).
There will be stopovers if you are flying from outside of China using full service airlines.

Most economical way is still by AirAsia.

AirAsia has flights between:
Bangkok (DMK) to Kunming (KMG)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) to Kunming (KMG)

Via Myanmar

Yangon (RGN) is damn far from Keng Tung (KET).
Air ticket prices also cost a bomb.
Average price S$500 for a return domestic flight.

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[TonyCheong2]

Economical Land Transportation Options

Via Guangzhou, China

Using the high speed train/coach/private car combination is the most economical by far to head to all the shady cowboy border towns.

Guangzhou South Station 广州南站 <-> Kunming South Station 昆明南站
Travel Duration: 6 Hours, 15 Minutes
Ticket Cost: ¥480 one way

From Kunming City take a coach/private car to your final destination.

When I am old I may retire in Kunming.
Can have easy access to pussies of 4 different nationalities. :p

Laos
Mohan Port 磨憨口岸/Boten

Myanmar
Warning: Warlord state! No official entry. Unofficial entry only! :p
Daluo Port 打洛口岸/Mongla

Vietnam
Hekou Port Lianjian Center 河口瑶族自治县口岸联检中心/Lao Cai

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[TonyCheong2]

You can also go to the border town of PingXiang / LangSo.

That's at Chongzuo City, Guangxi. :)
Any action here? :D

Vietnam
Pingxiang Youyiguan Port 友谊关口岸/Cửa khẩu Hữu Nghị (Lang Son)

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[TonyCheong2]

555 looks like not much Special Forces and Cuntmando soldiers heading to all the shady cowboy border towns. :p

I think all very comfortable sticking to the ever price increasing Dannok? :D

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[BlueDragon193]

Mae Salong: Yunnan Chinese in Northern Thailand Celebrate Unique History.

http://www.chiangraitimes.com/mae-salong-yunnan-chinese-in-northern-thailand-celebrate-unique-history.html

[BlueDragon193]

Travel Across the Border from Chiang Rai to the Hidden Gem of Kengtung, Myanmar.

http://www.chiangraitimes.com/travel-across-the-border-from-chiang-rai-to-the-hidden-gem-of-kengtung-myanmar.html

[fcykeu]

Those punters intending to retire better do so early. Some of the mentioned destinations are no longer operating. Eg.

Laos:
Mohan/Boten
It's a ghost-town when I passed through the town on my way to Luang Nam Tha, 2 years ago
Vietnam:
Hekou Port
Vietnam Street is mostly moved to new Vietnam Village,about 4 km north
Pingxiang Yuyiguan, Puzhai
This place was reported closed by Sammyboy many, many moons ago

However, it's possible to explore a new border which is open to international travellers at Tian Bao/Thanh Thuy border.You can explore Malipo, Wenshan,China & Ha Giang, Vietnam.

PLs take note that NO questions or enquiries will be entertained.

[bacsi]

Recent crossing from Laos to Thailand. Please note new thai immigration regulation, that as of Dec 2016 onward, Singaporeans can only do 2 land crossings in thailand per calender year.

To go to Mongla from China, go to Daluo. Can catch a long distance bus from Jinghong to Daluo (~3hrs). At Daluo bus station, catch a motorbike or take minivan (full or about full then move) to border (3to4km from bus station). But China immigration only allow chinese nationals on tour (registered at the office near border) to cross. All foreigners not allow to cross. I tried this year, got turn back. China immigration explained that Mongla is not under Myanmar govt control and not consider international border. Few years back when visa is needed, a local acquaintance told me to take the illegal motorbike (20Rmb) to go over. Still available but not sure the price now. They take another route. May not worth the risk.

[tourniquet]

hi going to chiangrai nxt week, any good joints to intro? massage etc

[sohbuckkong]

Recent crossing from Laos to Thailand. Please note new thai immigration regulation, that as of Dec 2016 onward, Singaporeans can only do 2 land crossings in thailand per calender year.

To go to Mongla from China, go to Daluo. Can catch a long distance bus from Jinghong to Daluo (~3hrs). At Daluo bus station, catch a motorbike or take minivan (full or about full then move) to border (3to4km from bus station). But China immigration only allow chinese nationals on tour (registered at the office near border) to cross. All foreigners not allow to cross. I tried this year, got turn back. China immigration explained that Mongla is not under Myanmar govt control and not consider international border. Few years back when visa is needed, a local acquaintance told me to take the illegal motorbike (20Rmb) to go over. Still available but not sure the price now. They take another route. May not worth the risk.

Yes its confirmed that there r motorcycle taxis willing to bring u illegally fm daluo to mongla. But my friend sent me this whatsapp recently, in nov 2017 :-

"The chinese lady (a china lady we met in sihanoukville fortuna casino, and is now in mongla), told me recently 3 of her friends were caught while entering mongla illegally. They were jailed 6 months each. The casino agent could not help them. Furthermore they paid the agent rmb 500 each to enter mongla illegally. They could not get the refund."

I doubt the immigration in tachiliek border, myanmar, wil allow us to go keng tong and mongla. Pls let us know if its allowed.

[pojstemp]

Many yrs ago, I hired motorcycle guide fm big market in KengTung to Mongla.
Go thru the cold mountains. Spent few hrs there. Nothing, eccept look-alike Macau.

[sohbuckkong]

Many yrs ago, I hired motorcycle guide fm big market in KengTung to Mongla.
Go thru the cold mountains. Spent few hrs there. Nothing, eccept look-alike Macau.

Surely theres prostitutes there in mongla and people seĺling endangered animals etc.