Orchard Plaza

[knightnight]

Juz wanted to check with other seniors, I have seen this massage shop on the first floor with quite a lot of Chio girls hanging out asking "massage Sir?"
Most of them, I noticed were PRC wearing skimpy clothes..
Can anyone update on the charges/services etc., please.
If there is info anywhere, please give me a link.
Hope I dont get flamed for this.....
Thanks in advance.
Knight

[leekme]

This is a repost FYI. I think previous thread with this post is already deleted.
-----------------------------
Recall reading some reports that foot massage shops were providing
extra service there, decided to give it a try. Arrived about 9 pm,
there was a massage shop on the 1st floor but I prefer some where
more secluded from the passing crowd.

Took the escalator to the second floor, and there was another massage
shop right in front of me. Before I can by pass, a 40+ lady, Lisa,
asked me if I would like to have a massage. I glanced into her shop,
there were 2 empty massage seats for foot reflexology, and 2 cubicles
with folding doors further to the back. There was a young girl, quite
pretty and slim standing beside her, smiling at me. I wonder if I
have VICE written on my forehead or Lisa was super lao chio and can
smell a horny prick a mile away, cos when I tried to say no, I am
just looking around, she persisted and presented to me that they have
full body massage service as well. So I asked her how much, and she
pointed to me a sign on the window that states "Massage 30 min -
$40". Eh a bit expensive to me, cos $36 will pay you through 45 min
of HC plus all kinds of facilities and food. Here, no facilities or
food, and not say high class place, $40 for 30 mins! I was taken a
back. But what the hack, I thought to myself, I am here for the
thrill and to check out something new. I pretended to say that's
expensive and say I wanted to look around first, but she was very
persuasive, say that everywhere here more or less the same price,
plus the young girl beside her keep smiling to me, so I gave in. I
paid her $40 and she asked me to follow the young girl out of the
shop??!! Where could she be bringing me to?? More thrills, my heart
pounded faster by another 2 beats.

Jenny brought me to another shop around the corner on the same level
that was closed. She unlocked the door, pushed the sliding door aside
and in we came. I was a small little unit just enough room for a
single size mattress on the floor and about 2 feet of space at the
end for you stand and change (bros with claustrophobia should avoid).
There was also a slim six feet book shelf with a spare brand new
pillow, some massaging oil, tissue paper, etc. You can tell that this
is a make shift setup and probably only recently made available.

I stood there for 2 seconds, looked at Jenny, and asked her if I
should remove my clothes (act blur). She didn't say anything, just
smiled and nodded her head once, as she take place sitting on her
heels, like a Jap, on the side of the mattress. There was no towel
provided, so I didn't take off my underwear, just in case it isn't as
I have imagine and she start screaming that I expose myself to her.

I lie on my stomach and the massage was SOP. We chatted and I found
out that she's from China, 22 years old, came to Singapore to learn
English, and worked for Lisa part-time only. She was pleasant
looking, slim, and had straight shoulder length hair. Her spoken
Chinese doesn't have a strong accent, so initially I thought she's
from Malaysia or even local. She was wearing black jeans and a simple
spagetthi stripe blouse. I should say that she has the girl next door
look.

After about 15 mins working on my back, she made me turn over and
asked if I wanted any other service. Again I tried to play by ear and
asked her in return what other services were there? She only offered
one service, "Beat Aeroplane" in Chinese, aka HJ. I asked her how
much and she wanted an exorbitant $80 for it!!! I laughed (politely)
and said that it was expensive. For $80 in HC, the girl would have
used her mouth She went Eeek! and I can tell from her expression
that she has never and cannot imagine giving a guy a BJ. This will
add to the many reports of Chinese girls doesn't do BJ myth. In any
case, she asked me how much would I want it for, I said $50 plus
strip naked, and she didn't seem very impressed. She must have
thought initially that I could be milked off my cash easily. After
some hard bargaining we settled for $60 and she will strip half.

She removed my underwear for me, and started working on my little
brother. It was not the usual up and down motion thing, and until now
I still can't really figure what she did. Didn't really care as long
as felt reasonably good. I waited for 1 or 2 mins and she didn't
strip, so I helpped myself. Her back was facing me initially, so I
just glob and carress them gently from behind. After a while I slowly
turned her around, her tits were small, half a handful, and soft.
Nipples and aerola were reasonably well formed, nipples about the
size pencil erasers. She allowed me to kiss and suck her nipples,
shiok! Unfortunately, she didn't seem to be stimulated or sensationed
in any way, so I stopped and concentrated to cumming myself. I told
her to lick my nipples to help me cum. She subtly asked for more
money as it was not agreed from the start, money face! I thought to
myself. Even though I didn't agree, she proceeded to satisfy me with
the licking, so I guessed she was kidding or just trying her luck
about the extra money. I came grabbing tightly to her breast, and it
felt good. She cleaned me up and we got dressed. I paid her $60 + $10
tips. I prefer to give tips rather that agreeinig to pay more
upfront. She was quite please with my little generousity, and told me
that she usually works weekends only, in case I wish to come back to
look for her.

We went back to the main shop and she served me some Chinese tea. Now
there were 2 caucasians sitting around and another girl by the
entrance. I chatted with Lisa and asked her how business. She claims
that it used to be much better before more competition moved in. I
also found out that the other girl was called Joanne, not as pretty
as Jenny, but had better curve and a CFM face. I was curious if she
did the double on the caucasians at the same time, but Lisa was quick
to state that only one of them had a massage, the other just came
back from walking around.

Overall it was a trip worth exploring since it is new to me. I don't
think I will revisit since the price is not attractive, total $110
burnt!

I explored the building a little after that. As it was already 9:45
pm, most of the stores are closed. Only one other massage palour
tried to solicit business from me, but there must be at least 4 - 5
of them in business there.

Surprise find of the night was a store that was selling sleazy stuff
operated by a Filippino guy. There were all kinds of condom,
ticklers, lazy viagra, sexy underwear etc. There was even a battery
operated pussy that he showed me, and boy must I say it looks and
feels like real. Don't get me wrong, I merely touched it with my hand
and stick my fingers in. The rubbery texture will provide good
friction for the sensation feeling especially when you turn it on and
the pussy start gyrating in twisting and turning motions. The guy was
extremely friendly and proudly showed me his range of products as the
shop is new and I was the only customer. I bought a luminous condom
for $5 just for the sake of his good service. I am not sure if he has
a license to sell these products, but bros who want to check out the
place better do it fast in case he doesn't and get busted soon. His
store is facing Orchard Point on the first floor next to a Greek
restaurant.

Here are the ratings for the sexploration:

Name: Jenny
Looks: 7.5
Boobs: 5
Body: 6 (slim not much curve)
Height: 1.52 m
Hair: Straight black shoulder length
Skin: Smooth and fair
Attitude: 6.5
Service: 7
HJ: 7
BJ: ??
FJ: ??

[knightnight]

Hey Leekme,
thank you very much for the info...I seem to get a cling of the issue........thanks again

[Spaceman]

Originally posted by knightnight
Hey Leekme,
thank you very much for the info...I seem to get a cling of the issue........thanks again

Finally somone speaks...Thanks leekme....

[goodybag]

Originally posted by leekme
This is a repost FYI. I think previous thread with this post is already deleted.
-----------------------------
Recall reading some reports that foot massage shops were providing
extra service there, decided to give it a try. Arrived about 9 pm,
there was a massage shop on the 1st floor but I prefer some where
more secluded from the passing crowd.

Took the escalator to the second floor, and there was another massage
shop right in front of me. Before I can by pass, a 40+ lady, Lisa,
asked me if I would like to have a massage. I glanced into her shop,
there were 2 empty massage seats for foot reflexology, and 2 cubicles
with folding doors further to the back. There was a young girl, quite
pretty and slim standing beside her, smiling at me. I wonder if I
have VICE written on my forehead or Lisa was super lao chio and can
smell a horny prick a mile away, cos when I tried to say no, I am
just looking around, she persisted and presented to me that they have
full body massage service as well. So I asked her how much, and she
pointed to me a sign on the window that states "Massage 30 min -
$40". Eh a bit expensive to me, cos $36 will pay you through 45 min
of HC plus all kinds of facilities and food. Here, no facilities or
food, and not say high class place, $40 for 30 mins! I was taken a
back. But what the hack, I thought to myself, I am here for the
thrill and to check out something new. I pretended to say that's
expensive and say I wanted to look around first, but she was very
persuasive, say that everywhere here more or less the same price,
plus the young girl beside her keep smiling to me, so I gave in. I
paid her $40 and she asked me to follow the young girl out of the
shop??!! Where could she be bringing me to?? More thrills, my heart
pounded faster by another 2 beats.

Jenny brought me to another shop around the corner on the same level
that was closed. She unlocked the door, pushed the sliding door aside
and in we came. I was a small little unit just enough room for a
single size mattress on the floor and about 2 feet of space at the
end for you stand and change (bros with claustrophobia should avoid).
There was also a slim six feet book shelf with a spare brand new
pillow, some massaging oil, tissue paper, etc. You can tell that this
is a make shift setup and probably only recently made available.

I stood there for 2 seconds, looked at Jenny, and asked her if I
should remove my clothes (act blur). She didn't say anything, just
smiled and nodded her head once, as she take place sitting on her
heels, like a Jap, on the side of the mattress. There was no towel
provided, so I didn't take off my underwear, just in case it isn't as
I have imagine and she start screaming that I expose myself to her.

I lie on my stomach and the massage was SOP. We chatted and I found
out that she's from China, 22 years old, came to Singapore to learn
English, and worked for Lisa part-time only. She was pleasant
looking, slim, and had straight shoulder length hair. Her spoken
Chinese doesn't have a strong accent, so initially I thought she's
from Malaysia or even local. She was wearing black jeans and a simple
spagetthi stripe blouse. I should say that she has the girl next door
look.

After about 15 mins working on my back, she made me turn over and
asked if I wanted any other service. Again I tried to play by ear and
asked her in return what other services were there? She only offered
one service, "Beat Aeroplane" in Chinese, aka HJ. I asked her how
much and she wanted an exorbitant $80 for it!!! I laughed (politely)
and said that it was expensive. For $80 in HC, the girl would have
used her mouth She went Eeek! and I can tell from her expression
that she has never and cannot imagine giving a guy a BJ. This will
add to the many reports of Chinese girls doesn't do BJ myth. In any
case, she asked me how much would I want it for, I said $50 plus
strip naked, and she didn't seem very impressed. She must have
thought initially that I could be milked off my cash easily. After
some hard bargaining we settled for $60 and she will strip half.

She removed my underwear for me, and started working on my little
brother. It was not the usual up and down motion thing, and until now
I still can't really figure what she did. Didn't really care as long
as felt reasonably good. I waited for 1 or 2 mins and she didn't
strip, so I helpped myself. Her back was facing me initially, so I
just glob and carress them gently from behind. After a while I slowly
turned her around, her tits were small, half a handful, and soft.
Nipples and aerola were reasonably well formed, nipples about the
size pencil erasers. She allowed me to kiss and suck her nipples,
shiok! Unfortunately, she didn't seem to be stimulated or sensationed
in any way, so I stopped and concentrated to cumming myself. I told
her to lick my nipples to help me cum. She subtly asked for more
money as it was not agreed from the start, money face! I thought to
myself. Even though I didn't agree, she proceeded to satisfy me with
the licking, so I guessed she was kidding or just trying her luck
about the extra money. I came grabbing tightly to her breast, and it
felt good. She cleaned me up and we got dressed. I paid her $60 + $10
tips. I prefer to give tips rather that agreeinig to pay more
upfront. She was quite please with my little generousity, and told me
that she usually works weekends only, in case I wish to come back to
look for her.

We went back to the main shop and she served me some Chinese tea. Now
there were 2 caucasians sitting around and another girl by the
entrance. I chatted with Lisa and asked her how business. She claims
that it used to be much better before more competition moved in. I
also found out that the other girl was called Joanne, not as pretty
as Jenny, but had better curve and a CFM face. I was curious if she
did the double on the caucasians at the same time, but Lisa was quick
to state that only one of them had a massage, the other just came
back from walking around.

Overall it was a trip worth exploring since it is new to me. I don't
think I will revisit since the price is not attractive, total $110
burnt!

I explored the building a little after that. As it was already 9:45
pm, most of the stores are closed. Only one other massage palour
tried to solicit business from me, but there must be at least 4 - 5
of them in business there.

Surprise find of the night was a store that was selling sleazy stuff
operated by a Filippino guy. There were all kinds of condom,
ticklers, lazy viagra, sexy underwear etc. There was even a battery
operated pussy that he showed me, and boy must I say it looks and
feels like real. Don't get me wrong, I merely touched it with my hand
and stick my fingers in. The rubbery texture will provide good
friction for the sensation feeling especially when you turn it on and
the pussy start gyrating in twisting and turning motions. The guy was
extremely friendly and proudly showed me his range of products as the
shop is new and I was the only customer. I bought a luminous condom
for $5 just for the sake of his good service. I am not sure if he has
a license to sell these products, but bros who want to check out the
place better do it fast in case he doesn't and get busted soon. His
store is facing Orchard Point on the first floor next to a Greek
restaurant.

Here are the ratings for the sexploration:

Name: Jenny
Looks: 7.5
Boobs: 5
Body: 6 (slim not much curve)
Height: 1.52 m
Hair: Straight black shoulder length
Skin: Smooth and fair
Attitude: 6.5
Service: 7
HJ: 7
BJ: ??
FJ: ??

I have tried the one with the Japanese Name....I think is NAGOYA.
They are charging 35 for 30 mins. They have 3 rooms with folded door. They have a few chio bu, always sitting outside the shop and will ask when you walk pass. I have try the one which if you look at the glass panel with a big advertisement massaging. Sorry forgot her name. She told me that she is train in Shanghai and a beautician.

[sexybabe]

Wow. Is the story taken frm ani sci-fi stori bks?



No offence. Jokin onli.

[leekme]

It's not a story but a FR, which is 101% genuine. Anyway there's no mention of science or technology, so not sure where you get the idea of sci-fi.

Leek
Originally posted by sexybabe
Wow. Is the story taken frm ani sci-fi stori bks?



No offence. Jokin onli.

[kimchi]

Leekme,

great report, me went OP quite regularly n 4 da shop dat u mentioned, never quite noticed any young girls, mayb i nvr really
look into the shop or its not my luck, da usual 2-3 old ladies r da 1 dat usually approached me. Da 1 at da other side near da bridge 2 Orchard Point 've few young n old chio but can sense there r no service n it's expensive. Wat abt da shop beside da 1 dat u go??saw 2 guys talk to 2 girls n they went in, da girls even close da shop door!!!! Its Malay girls btw.

I nvr try any of da massage there, went there just 2 visit frend so mayb 1 of these days......

[leekme]

My FR was written about 4-5 months back (repost), so not surprise that gals have changed or left. Not sure about any other shops in OP coz it's really to ex for me. For me it's more JSP, GLH, PPC and TC, these days. Quality of gals may not be as good but damage is less than half usually (me poor man). Some more often can get more than just HJ. Come to think of it, quality in MY may not loose to OP, and price is still less than half. Yah, maybe MY not so comfortable and no privacy.

Leek
Originally posted by kimchi
Leekme,

great report, me went OP quite regularly n 4 da shop dat u mentioned, never quite noticed any young girls, mayb i nvr really
look into the shop or its not my luck, da usual 2-3 old ladies r da 1 dat usually approached me. Da 1 at da other side near da bridge 2 Orchard Point 've few young n old chio but can sense there r no service n it's expensive. Wat abt da shop beside da 1 dat u go??saw 2 guys talk to 2 girls n they went in, da girls even close da shop door!!!! Its Malay girls btw.

I nvr try any of da massage there, went there just 2 visit frend so mayb 1 of these days......

[knightnight]

getting more curious I went today and walked a bit around the shop beside the bridge to the next building. A few PRC (I guess) came out and started their same story.
I quickly asked, what services you offer?...the older looking one jumped back saying bj sir, hj sir, if you want fj also Sir...want? want? Cheap Cheap one for you Sir....Blah Blah....
I peeped inside the shop but could not see any cubicals or rooms.
Afraid of being taken for a ride, I rode off.........
Thank you all for your inputs!!!
Getting exciting and who knows, I might end up with a FR in a day or two........

[LeeYokeYuen]

Originally posted by knightnight
getting more curious I went today and walked a bit around the shop beside the bridge to the next building. A few PRC (I guess) came out and started their same story.
I quickly asked, what services you offer?...the older looking one jumped back saying bj sir, hj sir, if you want fj also Sir...want? want? Cheap Cheap one for you Sir....Blah Blah....
I peeped inside the shop but could not see any cubicals or rooms.
Afraid of being taken for a ride, I rode off.........
Thank you all for your inputs!!!
Getting exciting and who knows, I might end up with a FR in a day or two........

Personally, I won't recommend the place because of the price. What you get can be considered a rip-off. But if you like to try a PRC then I guess it's not too bad sample there.

Don't compare them to HC or GL because you will be dissapointed. The experience is totally different. It's good if you are in need of a quick BJ or HJ. or if you are totally inexperience. Then they are ideal. Think of it as ATM service and not actual Banking services. I think that is the best description I can think of.

Try the one on the second level next to the overhead bridge. The ladies are better and the rooms (or shops) are decorated nicely.

There are no showers so I don't recommend if you plan to do something else after the service because you will have the scent of After-Fuck all over.

The service prices are very steep and you can't touch them much unless you are doing FJ. At the beginning $100 or HJ, $150 BJ and $200 FJ was the price quote by one of the prettier ones. Now the prices have come down a bit. but still pricy nevertheless.

Problems, the cubicles are not sound proof and the towels you lie on is reused and the hand towel use to clean up your cum has a scent.

Overall the girls are friendly but just not worth it.

[rahl]

I can confirm that the OP shop near the bridge do provide specials, including FJ. You can bargain below the offered prices but in the end it will still be above what you get elsewhere. FJ - 160 and HJ - 60, but don't quote me :)

It's all the true the crampness of the rooms and lack of facilities. But the girls are young amd attractive, and from what i know, friendly enough.

[HC man]

Originally posted by leekme
This is a repost FYI. I think previous thread with this post is already deleted.
-----------------------------
Lisa was super lao chio and can
smell a horny prick a mile away,
Does this Lisa the super lao chio do message for people . Did you ask her or can you give us the shop Tel Nos. i call up mysalf thank bro.

[leekme]

Bro,

Quite sure that if you want her, she can do it. All the girls learn the kung fu from her.

Please allow me to clarify, Lisa is super lao (40+), but chio average only. At least one good point of her is she's slim.

I threw away her namecard liao, so no number.

Shop is already heavily hinted in FR, plus her name, you surely can find it!

Leek
Originally posted by HC man
Does this Lisa the super lao chio do message for people . Did you ask her or can you give us the shop Tel Nos. i call up mysalf thank bro.

[HC man]

Originally posted by leekme
Bro,

Quite sure that if you want her, she can do it. All the girls learn the kung fu from her.

Please allow me to clarify, Lisa is super lao (40+), but chio average only. At least one good point of her is she's slim.

I threw away her namecard liao, so no number.

Shop is already heavily hinted in FR, plus her name, you surely can find it!

Leek ok thank Bro. leekme and take care!!!!

[darkshiver]

Hi Leekme,
Just curious, your signiture for the yahoo group, is it still on?I can't find it on yahoo.
Originally posted by leekme
Bro,

Quite sure that if you want her, she can do it. All the girls learn the kung fu from her.

Please allow me to clarify, Lisa is super lao (40+), but chio average only. At least one good point of her is she's slim.

I threw away her namecard liao, so no number.

Shop is already heavily hinted in FR, plus her name, you surely can find it!

Leek

[i_m_yr_farsher]

fantastic report!

btw, i havent tried any prc yet. some1 recommend pls? places with prc that looks like students. thanks!:p

[leekme]

Of course on! I am there everyday. Don't need to find, just click the link below. Try Again.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sgcheapthrills

Leek
Originally posted by darkshiver
Hi Leekme,
Just curious, your signiture for the yahoo group, is it still on?I can't find it on yahoo.

[liketoplay]

went to orchard plaza last week and tried the massage shop on the 2nd floor. go up the escalator and you'll see the shop right in fromt of you. I was serviced by this Shanghai girl , 23 yrs old and not bad looking. indicated the price to me $40 for half hr and $70 for full hour. Quite ex but took an hour anyhow cos that day feeling horny.... half hour too short to fully enjoy. there's only 2 tiny cubicles in this shop and you can hear wht's gping on in the next cubicle. anyway massage my back and legs for abt 30 mins before asking me to turn over... my bro standing already by then.I was looking at her hthroughout the session when she massaged my front before she pops the question shyly : yao bu yao ann ze li " I smiled to her and asked the price.... Damn ex... $60 bucks ! Told her tt its too expensive but she told me that's her price. I went for it anyway since I'm already there. Her hj so so only. After that gave me a warm towel to wipe my face and she uses another to clean my load. her breast are nice though....Overall quite expensive considering the setup and only handjob. total costs me $110.

[dennisbkp]

hi bro, I have tried this gal too.

[darkshiver]

Bro,
expensive man for just a HJ.

[LeeYokeYuen]

Originally posted by liketoplay
went to orchard plaza last week and tried the massage shop on the 2nd floor. go up the escalator and you'll see the shop right in fromt of you. I was serviced by this Shanghai girl , 23 yrs old and not bad looking. indicated the price to me $40 for half hr and $70 for full hour. Quite ex but took an hour anyhow cos that day feeling horny.... half hour too short to fully enjoy. there's only 2 tiny cubicles in this shop and you can hear wht's gping on in the next cubicle. anyway massage my back and legs for abt 30 mins before asking me to turn over... my bro standing already by then.I was looking at her hthroughout the session when she massaged my front before she pops the question shyly : yao bu yao ann ze li " I smiled to her and asked the price.... Damn ex... $60 bucks ! Told her tt its too expensive but she told me that's her price. I went for it anyway since I'm already there. Her hj so so only. After that gave me a warm towel to wipe my face and she uses another to clean my load. her breast are nice though....Overall quite expensive considering the setup and only handjob. total costs me $110.

Rip off.

They think they got golden hand.

[seekfun]

Just a question, where is Orchard Plaza? Is it near Orchard Tower??

[Tomahawk]

you know orchard point? the building to the right of centrepoint? orchard plaza is just to the right of orchard point. the one with a konica shop downstairs and also one selling suitcases.

tomahawk

[waypastprime]

Originally posted by seekfun
Just a question, where is Orchard Plaza? Is it near Orchard Tower??

Orchard Tower is in between Delfi Orchard and Palais Renaissance.... Whereas Orchard Plaza is just right beside Cuppage Plaza... ;)

[AVIATION]

Originally posted by liketoplay
went to orchard plaza last week and tried the massage shop on the 2nd floor. go up the escalator and you'll see the shop right in fromt of you. I was serviced by this Shanghai girl , 23 yrs old and not bad looking. indicated the price to me $40 for half hr and $70 for full hour. Quite ex but took an hour anyhow cos that day feeling horny.... half hour too short to fully enjoy. there's only 2 tiny cubicles in this shop and you can hear wht's gping on in the next cubicle. anyway massage my back and legs for abt 30 mins before asking me to turn over... my bro standing already by then.I was looking at her hthroughout the session when she massaged my front before she pops the question shyly : yao bu yao ann ze li " I smiled to her and asked the price.... Damn ex... $60 bucks ! Told her tt its too expensive but she told me that's her price. I went for it anyway since I'm already there. Her hj so so only. After that gave me a warm towel to wipe my face and she uses another to clean my load. her breast are nice though....Overall quite expensive considering the setup and only handjob. total costs me $110.

I was thinking what if the reverse of towels was used previously on another customer ???:p heeheehh

[gentingman]

Hi Bro Leekme,

Are you aware of any other Yahoo closed grp discussion forums on local HC gals?I heard there is one quite popular one,but the moderator has closed it's membership.Any idea how to join that forum?

Thanks

[lancerglxi]

Originally posted by gentingman
Hi Bro Leekme,

Are you aware of any other Yahoo closed grp discussion forums on local HC gals?I heard there is one quite popular one,but the moderator has closed it's membership.Any idea how to join that forum?

Thanks


I am the Moderator for the closed HCG group. You can always email me for membership application. I wanted to weed out alot of kids and free-loaders. We always welcome geninue contributers.

[seekfun]

Originally posted by Tomahawk
you know orchard point? the building to the right of centrepoint? orchard plaza is just to the right of orchard point. the one with a konica shop downstairs and also one selling suitcases.

tomahawk

Thanks Bro. Found the place and went to have a look. Noticed a number of massage shops and KTV. Was appraoched by some ladies to have a session of massage, cost $40 for 30 minutes. Din really try cos just pass by.

How is the KTV there? Any one tried b4? Any recommendation of which massage palour to try?

[alfred]

Hey, anyone can advise how to get to the HCG in yahoo group, i have been waiting for the membership approval but no reply.

Thanks:confused: