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Originally Posted by Marvis
If that's what u are looking at,i'd suggest u head for hotels that has massage service that closes after 11pm btm time (which is mid nite SG time).
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Thats what i do too,hehehe...good advise.
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Originally Posted by Marvis
Economic has been good in SG during 2015,people has the money to go further than btm. The number of new hotels in btm has gone up as well.
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One of the reason why i still prefer to travel to Batam is becos it is very near Sillypore,hehehe...and part of my hotel rooms were paid for by the company i worked for as some kind of "employee privileges" (hehehe...). So after calculating my number of annual leaves/off-in-lieu and monthly "entertainment" claims, Batam is still my preferred choice.
My main problem during travelling to Batam is the ferry ticket cost of S$48.00 but i have manage to conquer this part by making most of my colleagues,bosses and some of my company's customers pay for it,hehehe...so now i practically travel free if i go to Batam but dont eat (eat only hotel free breakfast) ,dont bonk and dont massage....hehehe....
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Originally Posted by Marvis
Yes,end up those who truly knows start keeping all the good stuffs to themselves.
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It is circumstances like this that makes most who know whats lesser-known share discreetly. Not a really big issue,becos most who over-tip or over-pay dont exactly travel to Batam regularly. Their average traveling to Batam is about twice and maybe just thrice a year.
But i am NOT saying it is alright to spoil market. The least one could do is try not to. Just to quote an example,Sillypore used to be value for money to many foreigners in terms of service standard,choice,efficiency and cost. Today,it has become the most expensive city in the world.
And Batam should be fast catching up with Sillypore in terms of its higher cost. History of Batam in this forum has spoken for itself. (i do read other threads on Batam in this forum too)
6 cities in Indonesia with the Highest Cost of living :
https://sammyreviews.store/showpost.p...&postcount=172
And Batam was ranked number 5. Let's not forget around 60% (maybe more) of the tourist came from Sillypore. This has serve as a reminder to myself,not to over-pay or over-tip. I dont like Batam to be turned into Sillypore or anything close to it. And i do know (and understand) that my action/s in Batam regardless how "micro-mini" it might seems will impact its future.
Of course,everyone think and play in Batam differently. One kind of rice do feed many kind of people in this case,hehehe...i just play my own Batam game my way.
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Originally Posted by Marvis
I'm sure they will impose charges on late check out too. I never like these 4 star hotels in btm. 2 star & 3 star hotels were more flexible in their rules & usually offer better service. I believe nearly every kind of hotel will impose charge for lost of room key/card. It is after all the guest fault.
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I checked out as late as 3pm and checked in as early as 9am+,hehehe...see how i was spoiled in the some 2 stars and 3 stars i stayed in.
Losing of hotel property is definitely a guest fault,room key definitely considered as hotel property.
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Originally Posted by flyingarrow
Went to Tulip Massage, was quote 400k for FJ. The 1st floor used to be hair salon setting but now they had made it to look like a fish tank setting (with those wide U-shaped red sofa), not sure if it will turn into joint? 
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Hmm...i think i have said this before,when these girls in MP has more than 2 customers per day,prices for special service auto goes up and this kind of thing usually happens during CNY,New Year eve,X'mas eve and super long weekends.
I will be looking forward to give Tulip Massage a try becos the way you say it sounds interesting to me. (i trust your FR) Thank you for sharing.
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Originally Posted by Nulgath
In Indonesia,quoting of the price & its final after-bargained price is entirely different.One will usually end with 40-50+% off if they bother to bargain. Fyi,A3,A5 & Nice Massage were sister shops.
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You seems well-versed with the Indonesia bargaining culture.
For your info,A3,A5 and Nice massage also has relatively consistent massage standard.
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Originally Posted by Nulgath
Give them a "take it or leave it attitude", tell them nicely u went to next door massage shop yesterday which u get 100k hj & 200k fj. Be firm,high chance their price will auto-drop & it can easily comes down to 150k hj & 250k fj if u push a little further. If they don't drop then don't take their special. They will be more worried than you. You lose your 60k-70k/1hr-1.5hr massage entrance fee (u can still walk over to next door shop to try again),they lose 1 rotating queue to earn a customer willing to take up special service. And almost all the time,they only have 1 customer per rotating queue for 1 whole day.
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Well-said,well-said. I couldnt have said it better. The girls in the massage shop were on queue number to serve walk-in customers,so depending on how many girls are there working in a massage shop.
Most time,some shops will have about 10+ girls divided in 2 different shifts from morning till night time from different shops (meaning to say, 2 to 3 massage shops can share about 20+ massage girls). And a massage shop average has about 10 customers per day. So on the most average ,they only have one customer per day and on lousy days,they have one customer every 2-3 days.Of course, during weekend peak sometime they will have 2-3 customers/day.
So end of the day,whether they can earn "your special service amount" (be it hj/fj) or not is up to your "mercy". Not many people (were intelligent enough) who travels to Batam for massage knows how to use this point to their advantage. You must have been quite a season cheongster at the Utama massage area.
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Originally Posted by Nulgath
To pay 200k for hj & 400k for fj behind Utama area,i think high class place like Altlanta spa,Octopuss spa & other hotel-base massage offers equal or if not better deals + they have quality massage. No need to go to those rundown Utama shop area. I see b4 in prev btm thread,those who are hard-hearted enuff can even get 100k hj & 250k fj in Altlanta spa.
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Bingo bro!
If i choose to pay more than 200k for a hj / more than 350k for a fj,i will go hotel type of massage or Men's spa type of massage (Octopus,Altalanta etc). Better ambiance,cleaner pillows,no mosquitoes,cleaner bed sheets,fresher air etc and definitely the shower area has hot water to use too,hehehe....and yes,their massage will almost definitely be consistently good too. Most of their overall general service definitely surpass those from Utama row of Massage shops.
(note : i am speaking about paying more than 200k for HJ and 350k for FJ as a basic guideline for myself. I will however pay a little more (about 50k extra) for SYT indo Chinese massage girl)
Let's not forget that Hotels and Men's Spa massage girls were also on "rotating queue" too. The thing is their salary higher and commission from the per hour massage fee were also higher,hence they werent as hard up as girls from Utama rows of massage shops. Not forgetting the volume of customers going there is more too (Utama side is more scattered). Therefore you can see during weekends,King Massage girls has your definition of "take it or leave it" attitude when it comes to special service. They need not rely on doing special service to survive as according to the girls,most if not all customers will tip them something even if no special were offered.
For me,if this shop dont give me what i ask for,i go other shop or come in another better time. And i AM NOT losing any money on the 60k to 70k per hour or per 1.5 hour massage becos i pay for what i got. I still get my massage,right? Hehehe...
Looking forward to you sharing more if there are those really good stuffs in Batam,bro.
Cheers!