[nono1973]

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

We zhun zhun went to BOTH BCS and Nagoya mall to hunt for seats and dam must wait until 10pm for proper seats (not first 2 rows) , also got to try the famous curry rice similar to Singapore's scissors cut outside BCS Mall , I think it's called Kedai Kopi Harapan Baru. 30k for a plate of rice and a bottle of teh botol. Thanks for the tips will go HB mall for a walk next time.

This look really interesting to me...hehehe...where is the exact location if you dont mind and thank you for sharing.

*i have been having the almost exact same kind of food for lunch nearly everyday in Sillypore over the last 4 months,hehehe...

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

My friend took a new girl from Bunga @ 1.5 juta that can't speak or understand much english plus he's quite reluctant to keep conversing using translator. The girl has an positive attitude , she's 19 and she looks alot like a Singaporean but probably she's still new thus lacking in the service department. She just gong gong slept throughout the whole night , while my friend is putting up his gentleman air and let her sleep (didn't take initiative to start) then sleep sleep sleep next moment it's already a new day. Only 1 bonk in this whole trip. Wasted money and time to join me in this trip.

New girl,especially very young new girls...will be a little more wilful,a little more playful (less matured and less responsible)...and may have a bit of princess element,hehehe...

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

His previous girl was a very service oriented kind and speak all 3 languages hence he has all the high expectations up there. He did contact her but she's not available on that day and still honor his word to go with me hence I felt quite bad.

Language-wise,one can always talk to the OKT...to see if the girl speaks certain language or if one has other "special" request. Works well 80% of the time. 1st trip good,doesnt always mean 2nd or following trips will be just as good,but what i know is when 1st trip is not good,usually next following trip will be better.

I boils it down to expectation and it will auto drop if i am face with a 1st not-so-good trip. But if the 1st trip was fantastically good,then the following one MAY most likely not be as good (unless one takes back the same girl) becos the expectation was already at an all time high on the 1st.

(Its actually a psychological factor. So i dont exactly brood over a fail Batam trip becos i know my next one will be better,hehehe...)

Another things is,lets not forget Batam girls usually need to go back to their kampung or somewhere else in 3 to 6 months time ;or since they were so good,they might be bought over by some rich bros as mistress,so if one choose to refuse to learn the trick to getting the "right" girl and constantly stick to the same girl,he will eventually have to face a "no-good-girls" exist in Batam situation and it will then be the end of his Batam trail.

I often hear one of my ex.collegues (60+ of age) whom i met during the beginning of my Batam trips says,"In my many years cheonging in Batam. Batam has no decently good girls,just simple cheap fuck,thats all.",hehehe... i didnt choose to correct him as it may seems impolite, as in his many years in Batam,he didnt know the way to walk from Formosa Hotel to Nagoya Hill Mall until i showed him.

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

You should probably understand more than I do when a bro in the group has taken the short end of the stick lol , it will also leave some bad taste in ourselves too. Previous trip all 5 had a great time but this time only 2-man trip so I had to take half of the grief

I believe i can completely understand this part becos if the friends who joined me didnt have a good time,i wont feel good either. Vice versa,if i join others i also try my best to enjoy myself so as not make the host feel not-so-good.

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

It's pretty much summed up about the problems , some guys just need the right girl and right chemistry to make his trip a good one. Like your recent trip , chemistry between guy and cewek plays a big part , couldn't agree more.

I have been emphasizing on expectation all these while. It is kind of difficult to explain becos many will mixed lowering expectation with lowering requirement. I see many problems lying with the customers as much as the girls they had over my mere 2 years in Batam. One of my aim since nearly day 1 i wrote my Batam trip summary is to HAVE "a good time all the time" whenever i am in Batam (like most senior bros i saw and knew). And i dare say today,i "almost" always have a good time with my girls,hehehe...

I go with senior bros who has been in Batam over 10 years,i go with bros who just visited Batam for the 1st 1 or 2 times,i even joined bros who has been residing in Batam staying in Batam hotels for 29 days a month (there are actually quite a handful of them). Most if not all senior bros who has been in Batam for many years has no problem with practically ANY girls anywhere (they already knows what Batam has to offer,what they are after and the Batam culture). I envy them and i try to learn from them.

Some problem/s at most time lies mainly with the new boys. And i already listed their problem/s out in some of my summaries (including myself as a newbie). The 1st and foremost problem is their EXPECTATION. They expect Thailand kind of soapy massage,Philippines girl's GFE,Japanese girl's OWE,Vietnam's no-hand services,China girl's KC-power etc etc,hehehe...and that was ONLY their 1st or maybe even 2nd Batam trip.

Cant really blame them becos they are new,so they really didnt know what Batam has to offer. So my advise to them is to observe,get used to (or adjust to) the Batam cheonging culture,to see if they are suitable and to see if they can find what they are looking for...afterwhich,simply blend in and enjoy.

Any country i go to for mongering,i always believe that chemistry is crucial. I have already stated how i would pick my Batam girls (link/s can be found on the 1st page of this thread where i hold most of my collected info) :

https://sammyreviews.store/showpo...ostcount=32592

...and till today,i am sticking to the above methods. They were my keys to enjoy Batam,almost everytime in every trip today. And i will always remember,chemistry is 2 sided.

Me too,need to fail quite a few times in order to be able to have a good time almost all the time in Batam and i am still learning as i go along.

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

I treated my girl like my best girlfriend and in return she gave me a great night.(not in terms of money but gestures , I didn't shower her any gifts but I hand plucked all the prawns/bones that she ate , making sure she feels happy and comfortable together during my stay)

Well,i didnt go to that extend tho,but i notice some bros do that and their girls doing the versa to them too. However,i did pick up food from the plate that were lesser reachable to put on their plates,but the same action,i do it for the other bros who joined me too.

At times,I kept my girls occupied with computer games on a 33 inch LCD TV when i am out,hehehe...or have an in-room Karaoke session and/or even a massage session.

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

Then it's the expectations one should have when going to chiong , my friend is much older than me so it will be rude for me to convey this part to him and lecture him how to chiong.

Sound like those time i go with my part time boss (also much older than me),hehehe...really dont know how to tell him or his friends and my words will likely sound rude to them. But they are big spender,each of them spending more than S$1500 per trip,so they do have a good time eventually (let money do the talking). But they only visit Batam once every 6 months on the average,thrice per year at max.

Originally Posted by SibeiNew

I'm also going to be like you liao lah , every month plan a trip to go and relieve stress until someday when I encounter a bad experience that irks me from going back

Bro,try solo at least once. And find link up with other bros whenever possible. Just to see if you like it. Once you become flexible enough to go with group,go solo or solo with some link up,it can means you wont be restricted.

Bad experience,every country and everyone will surely have. How to overcome or prevent a bad experience is knowledge,hence i am always in search for solutions to problems. I see a problem encountered by bros here or in my Batam field trips itself,i imagine myself being in their shoe,how will i overcome it at their state of mind back then? Hence i am still learning.