Batam Info Thread

[Bigbird00]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

There are a lot of good food in Batam.

Hi
Yup. Maybe someday we can have a meal together too bro.

Cheers

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Bigbird00

Hi
Yup. Maybe someday we can have a meal together too bro.

Cheers

Sorry, lone ranger here.

[swamy]

Hi,

This is my first post here since im very new to this FR.

I go thro all posts for past 1 week & learned lots ( Thx Nono bro & others).

I planned my Trip Oct 1 & 2.
Im New Bie & plan my 1st Trip. I follow the SOP of Nano Bro. But,

I booked sindo Ferry Ticket to batam center @30$ (Got it from Gum tree)
( actually im looking to Hourbay as per NONo bro advise)

Looking for formosa Hotel. But, finally Booked Da Vienna Boutique Hotel at cost 44$ per Night.

Will Post again after My Trip.

My self & my friend planned for this Trip (Indians). We hope will enjoy the Trip since we both reduce our expectations by 1/2 as per Nono Bro advise & the mistakes are the future learning

[FreshJives]

Originally Posted by Kaboon

Thx bro. Look like not reli not many stock in new bery. If is Mon,i usually go joint around 130pm for more choices.

ok, noted...frankly i din see any SYT..maybe i am too earlier or hidden (above 1 juta) i dunno..hehe

[jc_wtc]

agree what u say.
[QUOTE=fishingman;13611110]i tink 70% of cewek in indo in tis trade surely got already for sm form std.

always must wearing condom for fucking for yr own basic protection.

[fishingman]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

HIV rate is the 3rd highest in batam in Indonesia, after Paupa n Jakarta. That's what I read.

Originally Posted by jc_wtc

agree what u say.

Often u see many many pple btm/balai no use condom fucking raw,these pple 99.99% aldy got sm STD. Wat they didn't knwing is wen smbody got kena STD or STI tat time,he lagi more easy kena HIV/AIDs than pple w no std.

People who have STDs are more likely to get HIV, when compared to people who do not have STDs.

Tis kind of thg not i say one hor. Got black & white tested on link above by govt site. I always like to tell pple,die straight away itself no scary. But it is how one person drag drag waiting to die but cannot die yet rotting away the process tat it's most scarier.

Play safe,play smart.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by swamy

Hi,



My self & my friend planned for this Trip (Indians). We hope will enjoy the Trip since we both reduce our expectations by 1/2 as per Nono Bro advise & the mistakes are the future learning

Does not matter indian or Chinese or malay. They welcome u for your money. .

Ang Mo? they expect more, still have the mentality that Ang Mo are rich.

Malays? Can also pass off as local, but beware they can spot your accent. Chinese? Speak like a local, they wont dare to chop u.

Overall, know the market rates, nego the prices down for ceweks. Food? Price are fixed, at food courts, restuarants . If go for sea food( live sea food), always ask for prices per kilo first before ordering.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by fishingman

Often u see many many pple btm/balai no use condom fucking raw,these pple 99.99% aldy got sm STD. Wat they didn't knwing is wen smbody got kena STD or STI tat time,he lagi more easy kena HIV/AIDs than pple w no std.

People who have STDs are more likely to get HIV, when compared to people who do not have STDs.



Play safe,play smart.

Yes, if someone has herpes, or sores, that's where the HIV virus enter. usually the person also dono about it.

Please becareful not to do raw. As stated. BATAM IS THE 3RD HIGHEST HIV places in Indonesia.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by Black Page

Reading these posts made me jumping on my chair!

Careful,dont fall off...

Originally Posted by Black Page

It's really uncommon for those girls in booking joints to play 3some, or attempting anything different from standard coupling between a man and a girl. They are rather "basic", if I may say.

This i must agree,it is truly uncommon for them to play 3some. Took me quite a while for me to coax 2 girls for 3some which i have been planning for a while. And believe me,it didnt turn out too well for the 1st time. Most booking joint girls are better on a one on one and they are more comfortable at it too.

Originally Posted by Black Page

I always think that you need to treat the girl as a Princess if you want to be King. This includes the risk to treat a girl as a Princess and being treated as sh*it, but that's unavoidable in this business.

Depending on individual.My hope was to be treated like a King so I dont like princesses or plan to treat any girl like one. I look for OWE therefore i believe i treat my girl more of a queen (with respect). And a Queen is above all except of course,the King himself,hehehe...

Originally Posted by Black Page

She and the other also told me about some bad experiences they have often with customers, people who treat them roughly and unkindly, including two Koreans who booked them once, brought them near Sakupang, and finally left them there without even paying their taxi to go back to New Berry.

Now,these is one of the major problem in this trade. The girls got treated badly,they bent their anger and frustration on the next customers of a particular country,or a customer got treated badly,they treat the next girl badly (or worse) with even more demands..the cycle will just goes on and on. Using some common sense to think,where is everyone ultimately going to end from there?

Imagine if the girls has that mentality, "either we treat others badly or be treated the same" when they were 1st being "treated" badly by their customer...you can probably guess the outcome of their next customer/s or the one after.

My solution : Stop this vicious cycle starting from me and myself.

"DO NOT do unto what YOU DON’T LIKE others do unto you."

I believe in Karma. I also believe i will reap what i sowed.

Note : I am not saying we should treat the girl/s so well that we entirely spoiled them. There should be a limit too,it is afterall a transaction.One needs to strike a balance.

Originally Posted by Black Page

"We do our best to give good service and some customers leave no tip"
See, there are two sides of the coin.

Since you talk about 2 side of the coin.

I shall illustrate some past travelling experience. Imagine this,I go to China,the girls in their massage shop gives me services like "ants up the tree" and "hooking up the Moon from the sea bed". I go to Thailand,they give some fantastic soapy massage. And then to Malaysia,where they offer some of the best services. All of a sudden i come to Batam but my mentality is still at China,Thailand and Malaysia. And naturally i will surely be "EXPECTING" something close to those kind of services that i got from those places.

My own expectation begin to stick to one of those places over time. But when i did not get what i am expected to have in those places,it is not considered a good service therefore may get frustrated becos i EXPECTED the same or something similar. Another example,i brought 2 guys to Batam. Guy A only cheong in Sillypore and Malaysia,guy B cheong all over Asia and some part of other contingent. Result : Guy A was able to enjoy Batam better than guy B.

These were my perspectives after some analysis.

[swamy]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Does not matter indian or Chinese or malay. They welcome u for your money. .

Ang Mo? they expect more, still have the mentality that Ang Mo are rich.

Malays? Can also pass off as local, but beware they can spot your accent. Chinese? Speak like a local, they wont dare to chop u.

Overall, know the market rates, nego the prices down for ceweks. Food? Price are fixed, at food courts, restuarants . If go for sea food( live sea food), always ask for prices per kilo first before ordering.

Hi Bro,

Few of my frnds went Balai few months ago. They choose the Girl there & the girls are rejected them bec they dont like Indians.

Few of my frnds went Batam & said many girls dont like Indians & ran away ( dont know the actual reason, may be the girl got any bad impression before ).

Actually I need the Advise from the senior..
My day-1 after i choose my girl (1pm) i want to go around to visit some places (max 3 places ). Pls advise i need to book any city tour package (1/2 day) or i can book any taxi to see around the places.

places i Interests :
1. Barelang Bridge
2.Buddhist Temple
3.Hindu temple

Thanks

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by name_less_user

Has anyone requested for a massage session without any clothing in a clean joint?

i did it once,but it has to be in a VIP room (standalone room and not those hall sharing room type) or better still, in your own hotel room and be prepare to pay special service pricing w/o getting the actual special service. It is a clean joint i went to tho,but its also a place with above average good masseur doing good massage.

Originally Posted by name_less_user

No for hanky panky but for therapeutic reasons since underwear can cause obstruction during deep, thorough tissue massage.

I do not how well you know about therapeutic massage but in different country,i believe it is done differently.

Thai massage : i realise that a good thai masseur doing massage NEVER leave their hands (or part of their body) away from my body. Thai masseur tends to know what they are doing when they are cracking the bones.

Chinese Massage :They were more onto pressing and pushing the muscles (veins) and flesh of the body which is called Tui Na.

Indo Massage : Usually i notice they will massage me from the top left to the bottom left and then move to the bottom right and upward right in one circular round.

Oil massage and no oil massage : i prefer no oil massage,to actually test the skill of the masseur. Masseur needs to exert more strength thru their fingers when there is no oil hence usually i get finger-press massage if i request for no oil. Towels will be used at times tho. Most girls doing non-oil massage perspire more.

Tantric Massage : Involve more onto a little pressing and pushing massage with more focus on nerve massage from their finger tip.

A good masseur in my view is someone who MUST know how much strength to use by just feeling the body of the person during when the massage was done and have to exert the "just right" amount of strength in every right spot of the body wherever her hands touches.

In my point of view,a massage session should never be painful unless there is an injury involved.

Originally Posted by name_less_user

Would I get into trouble for asking?

Depending on the texture and types of clothing material a masseur is wearing. Most if not all fabric will not hinder the process of a good massage. Having said that,most underwear/panties material do hinders the skin feel unless well,they are on G-string. Most masseur who knows their stuffs will get a cotton towel to put over my naked butt before they sat on it while massaging my back hence blocking their undies from direct contact with my skin.

If it is in a private room,i believe you are unlikely to get into trouble for asking. But still if the place is a clean one,be more sensitive and discreet tho,especially when there are people within hearing distance.

Hope i answered your questions.

[shahgila]

Originally Posted by swamy

Hi Bro,

Few of my frnds went Balai few months ago. They choose the Girl there & the girls are rejected them bec they dont like Indians.

Few of my frnds went Batam & said many girls dont like Indians & ran away ( dont know the actual reason, may be the girl got any bad impression before ).

Actually I need the Advise from the senior..
My day-1 after i choose my girl (1pm) i want to go around to visit some places (max 3 places ). Pls advise i need to book any city tour package (1/2 day) or i can book any taxi to see around the places.

places i Interests :
1. Barelang Bridge
2.Buddhist Temple
3.Hindu temple

Thanks

Hi bro,

I understand what you mean. I have spoken to some of the girls over there about this before. Quite a large number of them has the impression that Indians are bad customers. Some of my fellow Indian friends have also experienced some form of discrimination when it comes to booking cewek.

I remember a few months back when I brought some friends over to a joint to view the ladies. all was fine and dandy until these 2 Indian uncles came in and some of the girls (mainly the SYT) started scrambling to get out of the "Showroom."

I asked my regular cewek who was there and she told me that the girls are familiar with these two uncles. They have a reputation for refusing to use condoms and not tipping. Additionally, Indians have a reputation for getting drunk and rowdy when they are over there. Some have been known to be quite abusive and violent towards the girls. And as mentioned earlier, miserable tippers.

As such, word of mouth has spread that Indians are not ideal patrons.

My advise is to avoid going for the SYT (easier said than done, I know.) and go for the more matured MILFs if you are there for good service as the younger or newer ones will tend to have an attitude problem if they don't really have a good impression of you to begin with.

Most importantly, ask the lady if they want your booking to begin with as this will cut down on chances of attitude/runaways dramatically.

Stick with Bro Nono's list of recommended joints. I would recommend Sedona as the first place to go as the Papi there is quite upfront and honest about his ladies (at least to me anyway cause i have never had any problems with his ladies).

And try not to go overboard with the drinking (in front of the ladies) as the ladies will start to panic if they see how much you drink and they will prepare to cabut as they will anticipate trouble. That was what some of the cewek over there told me anyway.

Being Indian myself, i know it is more challenging than it should be, especially when i bring my other Indian friends over. The only advantage i had was that i have Malay features and spoke Bahasa.

As for your day trip, you can negotiate with taxi drivers (at your own risk) to make the arrangements.

Have fun with your trip and be safe. Wish you luck yeah!

[Dan82]

Anyone heading to batam this Saturday and Sunday..?
I am planning a 2 day 1 night trip if any bro interested to link up over there or go together.. will be staying at Formosa.. not a newbie there but also not a pro.. Haha..

[PigletDiDi]

Hi i be going this coming weekdays September 28~30
Any bros interested to tag along or link up at batam just leave a PM

[Kaboon]

Originally Posted by FreshJives

ok, noted...frankly i din see any SYT..maybe i am too earlier or hidden (above 1 juta) i dunno..hehe

Hw's the service? Cos i read frm Nono's notes tat Mon usually got quite a no. of cewek on rest or they rest longer & appear in aquarium a little later due to work hard on wkend.

thx for yr info,i jus need to confirm.