Can I check with cheongsters or agents who has been in CP or CA during China Golden week Oct 1st to 7th, what's the action like?
I mean will CP be crowded with locals since it is national long holiday, ie lots of cheongsters? Also will be working girls be going home during this period?
In short, is CP or CA a good time to visit during the Golden holiday?
Many thanks.
You might aspect some mms went back lao jie with parents , sister as there is a few days of public holidays .....
But things might be more or less the same ....have fun .
Can I check with cheongsters or agents who has been in CP or CA during China Golden week Oct 1st to 7th, what's the action like?
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Originally Posted by jameschong1
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I was there last year during the Golden Holiday
if u talking about CP, then it's crowded with foreigners like Singaporeans, Hongkies, Taiwan kia etc
the big road guys lang lang stay at home to be with their wife
yo, i've been in CP for National Golden Week for the past 5 yrs and this is my favorite period in the whole entire year as locals are away for holidays with family and no hong kongers or taiwanese who are married will be there...as a matter of fact, no married man can find excuse to be in China as they are shut for a week... just dun listen to those who they think they know everything and they can be representative....
Haha, a lot of romeo around, looking for juliet mah. They just want to live the fantasy of a SYT seeing them as their white horse prince and ride bicycle together around the lake kinda of romance. Nothing wrong lah, just need to be careful, and be prepared to end it any time. Don't fall in too deep and drown lor.
I also want to be romeo, but always remind myself romeo died at the end of the story, so I don't dare
Bro post something new so that i can return 11 Apples...Cheers!!!
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whoremongers never die cos they just reunite in hell
SEAJ, what have you done to me? You have just brought the pedestal I put you on all these while, come crashing down. I have always followed your writings keenly and with alacrity.
To me, your POVs are always argued incisively, candidly and cogently. And being 'local' I thought you would know the 'lie' of the land and the subtleties of local custom and practice.
And so naturally, I thought you would be impervious to the mistakes, weaknesses and woes that afflicts old fools like yours truly.
Haha never mind, somehow I feel not so foolish or lonely anymore. So thank you all the same
And thanks also for your take of non-P4P industry girls in CP... its helping immeasurably in a current predicament of mine
As for that perennial lout, you are right, let's just ignore him the way FGG ignores another boor on this forum.
But 'goonish tub of lard?" hahahahaha, that's a classic, I'm still laughing my socks off......
Many thanks for your kind words - but really, there's no pedestal that ANYBODY can OR should be on for matters concerning Mongering and ChangPing. Everybody have their own likes and dislikes, own experiences and of course opinion.
Anybody that claims to be expert at these things are well mistaken and the actual idiots are those who insist that theirs is the only opinion that matters.
And of course worse still are those who will try to dominate all discussions with his own opinion as being the only valid one; making a mess of discussions, making trouble, stirring up prejudices, enlisting support to gang up on those who do not agree with him - and yes, even organizing en masse zapping campaigns even!! True idiot - and those who encourage him and participate are equally idiotic IMHO and like you say, best to just ignore these idiots.
Thanks all for the feedback. I guess I will be resting in CA for a few days before heading to CP or CP all the way during the Oct National holiday.
I think this coming trip I must spend more time in PZL since so many of the girls there can be bedded!
A quick contribution from my last trip a couple of weeks ago:
I noticed some bros saying MF not that good, but actually in my last outings to MF, I actually find the quality in MF good. Lots of syts. But key is you really need to be there very early as the better looking girls will be taken up very fast. Though the hardware in MF is older, it is still by far the cheapest ktv if you compare it with Yihao and Ouya. Yihao and Ouya still have their fair share of beauties. For Yihao especially for the lower cats, you really need to hunt in the room... Most good ones will not even make it out on the street.
For SN, Fuhao SN surprises me. Though a lot of the girls there are inflated price from other joints, the quality still good if you willing to pay. What impresses me the most is the 透视房 which I feel die die must try!
Also Fuhao is the other SN that I have tried apart from Meibao having the real waterbed... Very good experience!
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Originally Posted by FeiGohGoh
been to CP quite a few times these period ... expect crowds going thru borders ....avoid SZ, Lohou areas near borders ... CP shouldn't be too bad ... mms availability not affected at all.
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Originally Posted by Vertu
You might aspect some mms went back lao jie with parents , sister as there is a few days of public holidays .....
But things might be more or less the same ....have fun .
I might be still there during these period .
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Originally Posted by and_alloy
yo, i've been in CP for National Golden Week for the past 5 yrs and this is my favorite period in the whole entire year as locals are away for holidays with family and no hong kongers or taiwanese who are married will be there...as a matter of fact, no married man can find excuse to be in China as they are shut for a week... just dun listen to those who they think they know everything and they can be representative....
yo, i've been in CP for National Golden Week for the past 5 yrs and this is my favorite period in the whole entire year as locals are away for holidays with family and no hong kongers or taiwanese who are married will be there...as a matter of fact, no married man can find excuse to be in China as they are shut for a week... just dun listen to those who they think they know everything and they can be representative....
If my memory dun fail me, last year oct crash with 中秋节.
So the holiday is very long. All KTV dun have gals on 中秋. I went OY that night... Wow.. Guess what.. Only less than 30 gals turn up for work..
The rest should be more or less the same for the rest of KTV. The next 3 days that follow strength of gals still very little about 100+
Only start to get better after the 5th days.
Alot of gals went back hometown or goes on tour cause of the long holiday.
The pass few years, things is as per normal. And less crowd also.
It's the worst 中秋 n oct I have come across in cp... Lets pray this will be just a one off..
Was just sitting around with one of my mommy friends and we discussed how much KTV gals make.
Basically, the costs directly associated with being a KTV girl are as follows (approximately and generally)
- Either temporary work pass at 50/day or they need to pay a one time "entrance fee" which includes uniform etc: 900 - 1,200 depending on which KTV.
- When a girl is a permanent staff, then they pay 200 - 300 monthly administrative/other fee and are subject to further fines of 200 - 300 if they do not book a KTV room during the month.
- Their own rent/utilities etc: 400 - 1,500/month
- Their own Civilian clothes: approx 1,000 - 2,000/month (You still gotta look good when you go out with your client!!)
- Telephone re-charges - 100 - 200/month (and of course the all important handset!! These gals LOVE their fancy phones....and are always on the look-out for suckers who'd give them as a present - Don't YOU be that sucker!! LOL
- Daily expenses: 15 Hair blow, 15 Make-up, 30-40 for taxi or bicycle back and forth to the KTV, 30-50 daily food.
Then there is the Mommy deductions from their fee:
for 3-6-10 girls - 60-70 if just sitting and 160-170 if taken out
for 4-8-12: 90 for sitting and 190 taken out
for 5-10-15: 100 sitting, 200 taken out.
Just thought you guys would find this as interesting as I do.
Was just sitting around with one of my mommy friends and we discussed how much KTV gals make.
Basically, the costs directly associated with being a KTV girl are as follows (approximately and generally)
- Either temporary work pass at 50/day or they need to pay a one time "entrance fee" which includes uniform etc: 900 - 1,200 depending on which KTV.
- When a girl is a permanent staff, then they pay 200 - 300 monthly administrative/other fee and are subject to further fines of 200 - 300 if they do not book a KTV room during the month.
- Their own rent/utilities etc: 400 - 1,500/month
- Their own Civilian clothes: approx 1,000 - 2,000/month (You still gotta look good when you go out with your client!!)
- Telephone re-charges - 100 - 200/month (and of course the all important handset!! These gals LOVE their fancy phones....and are always on the look-out for suckers who'd give them as a present - Don't YOU be that sucker!! LOL
- Daily expenses: 15 Hair blow, 15 Make-up, 30-40 for taxi or bicycle back and forth to the KTV, 30-50 daily food.
Then there is the Mommy deductions from their fee:
for 3-6-10 girls - 60-70 if just sitting and 160-170 if taken out
for 4-8-12: 90 for sitting and 190 taken out
for 5-10-15: 100 sitting, 200 taken out.
Just thought you guys would find this as interesting as I do.
SEAJ
wow ... let's do a straight sum here ...
forget abt the one-time entrance fee 900-1200rmb ... assume she's a permanent staff ... 3 6 10 rate ...
mthly subscription 300rmb
mthly rental and utilities 1500rmb
own cloths and cosmetics 1500rmb
telephone recharge 200rmb
hair blow (20days) 300rmb
make-up (20days) 300rmb
transport (20days) 600rmb
food (30days) 1500rmb
total expenses per mth 6200rmb divide by 30 days = 206rmb per day ..
assume 20days of work ...
10 days ON (1000x10) = 10000rmb
10 days sitting (300x10) = 3000rmb
total collection 13000rmb
deduct 170 x 10 days = 1700rmb
deduct 70 x 10 days = 700rmb
total deduction to mommy 2400rmb
balance 10600rmb ....
expenses 6200rmb
left over 4400rmb per mth
wow ... let's do a straight sum here ...
forget abt the one-time entrance fee 900-1200rmb ... assume she's a permanent staff ... 3 6 10 rate ...
mthly subscription 3................
expenses 6200rmb
left over 4400rmb per mth
IMHO .... not a very lucrative job ...
Great calculations!! And yes, it really isn't all that lucrative is it??
Which really makes me wonder how is it that some of these girls can have as bad an attitude as they have when they manage to get our patronage?
These girls take our money and think "Wow - a thousand (or 600) - so easy! Not even thinking what their outgoings really are! And not thinking that their days are numbered.
Glad you are in agreeance, but wise men do think alike!
And fools seldom differ!
And you can easily tell the difference between the two by the contents of their writings and the perspicuity in the argument of their case haha
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Originally Posted by PuTonRen
Brother,
Well said from an experienced man.
Your command of English is still admirable. Bravo!
Haha, with words like 'khum lan knia,' my English is pretty ordinary, let me assure you.
As to being an experienced man, sincerely; I must decline the accolade. It's ill deserved. A bit player like me can't even hold up a candle to the many seasoned veterans, thats you included, in this forum, many of whom have played all over China. And again that's you included.
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Originally Posted by YHgod
Man's ego .
Go to ktv which almost all gals avail to bring back but dont want to bring back bcos can't find that feel
Go to PZL where all gals are masseur but wanted and try hard to bring back ended up spend lots of ai wan money .
Precisely Dr Watson! Many-a-times, its the thrill of the hunt, not the satiation of the kill. The quivering ecstacy of uncertainty (am I going to get a bonk?) rather than the mundane rigours of certainty (obligatory sex by payment of a set price.)
Can I check with cheongsters or agents who has been in CP or CA during China Golden week Oct 1st to 7th, what's the action like?
I mean will CP be crowded with locals since it is national long holiday, ie lots of cheongsters? Also will be working girls be going home during this period?
In short, is CP or CA a good time to visit during the Golden holiday?
Many thanks.
Wow I also going golden week this year. 1st time try this period. Heng the mid autum festival is from 18-22 sept.
My only hope is that the airport do not be flooded!
Any kind bros can share the international flight air port condition during this period pls? I am checking if there is a need to cater more time into the reach air timing when coming back... Dun wana miss another flight.
Now you know why, the rate now is 3 8 13. For take out of 1000 per night, these girls really don't make much. But of course the newbie would be happy with their 4k to 5k rmb net profit. Soon afterwards they will venture into the bigger KTVs at better pricing, makes more money and gets a bigger altitude to go with.
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Originally Posted by adidas88
wow ... let's do a straight sum here ...
forget abt the one-time entrance fee 900-1200rmb ... assume she's a permanent staff ... 3 6 10 rate ...
mthly subscription 300rmb
mthly rental and utilities 1500rmb
own cloths and cosmetics 1500rmb
telephone recharge 200rmb
hair blow (20days) 300rmb
make-up (20days) 300rmb
transport (20days) 600rmb
food (30days) 1500rmb
total expenses per mth 6200rmb divide by 30 days = 206rmb per day ..
assume 20days of work ...
10 days ON (1000x10) = 10000rmb
10 days sitting (300x10) = 3000rmb
total collection 13000rmb
deduct 170 x 10 days = 1700rmb
deduct 70 x 10 days = 700rmb
total deduction to mommy 2400rmb
balance 10600rmb ....
expenses 6200rmb
left over 4400rmb per mth
SEAJ: I agree with most of the post as to costs, but I think the expenses part is a bit high. I think I will do some more research on my next visit and try to get some more concrete facts. My regular girl has realized that her days in the trade are limited and wants to open a dog saloon which could be a good choice in a more upscale area. Other than that, I think her only choice is to become a mommie. She seems to realize that, but even she spends waay too much money, had to have a iphone 5, really nice top end shop clothes, etc. They don't seem to think their way through this. Oh well, not much we can do about it, and I for one am not going to support their bad decisions. mrclen