Issue with ICA

[Exis7ence]

Any bro have experience bringing a vietnamese girl into Singapore?Previously, about a year ago...she was denied entry into singapore.Will she stand a better chance if im flying back together with her?

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Exis7ence

Any bro have experience bringing a vietnamese girl into Singapore?Previously, about a year ago...she was denied entry into singapore.Will she stand a better chance if im flying back together with her?

Answer is no even if you are travelling with her because how are you related to her...

The ICA officer will not call you or let you follow to the cubicle even if you are queueing behind her...

Entry is purely on her merits...If you dun want to take chance then you can apply tourist visa for her to get approval before she fly in but you need to be her guarantor. I suggest you dun be her guarantor if you are not single...

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by Exis7ence

Any bro have experience bringing a vietnamese girl into Singapore?Previously, about a year ago...she was denied entry into singapore.Will she stand a better chance if im flying back together with her?

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Answer is no even if you are travelling with her because how are you related to her...

The ICA officer will not call you or let you follow to the cubicle even if you are queueing behind her...

Entry is purely on her merits...If you dun want to take chance then you can apply tourist visa for her to get approval before she fly in but you need to be her guarantor. I suggest you dun be her guarantor if you are not single...

There is a difference being "denied entry" and "blacklisted". U need to find out more details from her and hopefully she will be truthful to u and will relate what happened one year ago when she was interviewed.

"Denied entry " is not "blacklisted". ICA can impose temporary ban on the subject on his/her initial visit and the ban can be uplifted by the subsequent officer on duty on the next visit based on certain criteria.

Even for people on the blacklist, there are still "ways" for them to enter Sg. Just that not many people knows the way around it.

[pusielover]

Originally Posted by vbkk

There is a difference being "denied entry" and "blacklisted". U need to find out more details from her and hopefully she will be truthful to u and will relate what happened one year ago when she was interviewed.

"Denied entry " is not "blacklisted". ICA can impose temporary ban on the subject on his/her initial visit and the ban can be uplifted by the subsequent officer on duty on the next visit based on certain criteria.

Even for people on the blacklist, there are still "ways" for them to enter Sg. Just that not many people knows the way around it.

but then the "subsequent" officer may likely base / follow
the former temp ban data to reject. It's always safe to follow. Rejecting will not hurt him in anyway but if he approves n something bad happen, he will bear responsible for approving.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by pusielover

but then the "subsequent" officer may likely base / follow
the former temp ban data to reject. It's always safe to follow. Rejecting will not hurt him in anyway but if he approves n something bad happen, he will bear responsible for approving.

Just too many possibilities nowadays why a girl denied entry...ICA officer too dun want to review too much...unless you have friends inside ICA who can quietly tell you...

I wrote this before...a girl went to hotels with many different guys in Singapore can be a possible reason for deny entry in future trips...all hotels captured the ID of both girl and men...if men are usually different married men then this girl was deemed as undesirable or family risks...

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by pusielover

but then the "subsequent" officer may likely base / follow
the former temp ban data to reject. It's always safe to follow. Rejecting will not hurt him in anyway but if he approves n something bad happen, he will bear responsible for approving.

Every new trip into Singapore will be based on their own merits. Previous cases of denied entry prior to this trip only serves as a reference and not necessarily mandatory to follow. Most if not all subjects themselves are aware what is the possible reason that they are refused entry. It's either insufficient funds,no onward return flight back, frequent traveller with long staying records, suspected illegal working are some of the most likely reasons. Officers are able to retrieve ex records of entering Singapore including embarkation cards fill in records.

If a genuine traveller is here for tourist reasons ( mind u, that means to visit Singapore and that does not include visit BF/etc ). It's a social visit pass. For tourist purposes. Not for visit BF and whatever reasons u can come up with. Officer is able to sniff out whether u are here to visit or other purposes.

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

Just too many possibilities nowadays why a girl denied entry...ICA officer too dun want to review too much...unless you have friends inside ICA who can quietly tell you...

I wrote this before...a girl went to hotels with many different guys in Singapore can be a possible reason for deny entry in future trips...all hotels captured the ID of both girl and men...if men are usually different married men then this girl was deemed as undesirable or family risks...

There is no need for the officer to tell the girl/guy why he/she was denied entry. Interview is conducted between the officer and the subject. Questions will be thrown to the subject in the room and should a question/s be thrown repeatedly and does not satisfy the officer's curiosity , most likely that is the reason why u are send back/banned. It's just whether the girl willing to tell her BF/customer/ friends the truth or not.

Going to hotels with different guys WILL NOT pose as a reason for being denied entry into Singapore. ICA database does not have the ability to access records of the following. Yes all hotels captures the data but the data will only be accessed when some incidents take places and a search warrant need to be issued by the police to access the records.

Putting down different addresses of residence on different visits will affect a girls chances of entry. Officer will doubt the purpose of her visit as well as the relation between her and the person involved.

[pusielover]

Originally Posted by vbkk

Every new trip into Singapore will be based on their own merits. Previous cases of denied entry prior to this trip only serves as a reference and not necessarily mandatory to follow. Most if not all subjects themselves are aware what is the possible reason that they are refused entry. It's either insufficient funds,no onward return flight back, frequent traveller with long staying records, suspected illegal working are some of the most likely reasons. Officers are able to retrieve ex records of entering Singapore including embarkation cards fill in records.

If a genuine traveller is here for tourist reasons ( mind u, that means to visit Singapore and that does not include visit BF/etc ). It's a social visit pass. For tourist purposes. Not for visit BF and whatever reasons u can come up with. Officer is able to sniff out whether u are here to visit or other purposes.




There is no need for the officer to tell the girl/guy why he/she was denied entry. Interview is conducted between the officer and the subject. Questions will be thrown to the subject in the room and should a question/s be thrown repeatedly and does not satisfy the officer's curiosity , most likely that is the reason why u are send back/banned. It's just whether the girl willing to tell her BF/customer/ friends the truth or not.

Going to hotels with different guys WILL NOT pose as a reason for being denied entry into Singapore. ICA database does not have the ability to access records of the following. Yes all hotels captures the data but the data will only be accessed when some incidents take places and a search warrant need to be issued by the police to access the records.

Putting down different addresses of residence on different visits will affect a girls chances of entry. Officer will doubt the purpose of her visit as well as the relation between her and the person involved.

What an expert n confident explanation! Cheong hu heng li zou lol

[vbkk]

Originally Posted by pusielover

What an expert n confident explanation! Cheong hu heng li zou lol

Haha, just providing more precise and exact details on the situation. "Cheong hu Heng li zou" means what ? Haha. I dun understand.

[remyken]

Cheng hu heng li zou

Means u can become the government

When u become the prime minister remember zao me, ok

Haha jus kidding

But then again ah. I think our ICA sibei, cb and xialan. I don't like the way they do things

[Cheeky GUI]

guys, how about those taiwanese and koreans.

how come those taiwanese at HFJs can come for 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years respectively.

what pass they sign?

what are the reasons and chances that they will be deported back at the airport? are they legit to work in HFJs? and if they were never caught during a raid, meaning they can keep coming back to singapore to work in HFJs?

why are thais and prcs more heavily scrutinised than taiwanese and koreans?


reason im asking is bcause i recently know a TW girl from one of the HFJ, and she told me one of her friends recently was stopped and deported back at the airport.

she is going back TW and after that coming back sg after CNY. my question is what are the chances that she also kana stopped at airport and deport back? what reason need or totally no need any reason?

[Hurricane88]

sounds like these taiwanese gals have WP to work in HFJ if can keep coming in...I may be wrong but if not then gal will sure U-turn back soon...

the gal is the best person to tell you the truth...unless for some reason she did not...

Originally Posted by Cheeky GUI

guys, how about those taiwanese and koreans.

how come those taiwanese at HFJs can come for 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year and 2 years respectively.

what pass they sign?

what are the reasons and chances that they will be deported back at the airport? are they legit to work in HFJs? and if they were never caught during a raid, meaning they can keep coming back to singapore to work in HFJs?

why are thais and prcs more heavily scrutinised than taiwanese and koreans?


reason im asking is bcause i recently know a TW girl from one of the HFJ, and she told me one of her friends recently was stopped and deported back at the airport.

she is going back TW and after that coming back sg after CNY. my question is what are the chances that she also kana stopped at airport and deport back? what reason need or totally no need any reason?

[stillgottheblue]

If you are a ang mo from AU or USA, you will not be stopped. My colleague did a 3 times u turn and was allowed in 3 times until the application for a working pass was applied.

This is how realistic Singapore is.

[cuscorex92]

when u com across a article bout 3rd party breaking up families, or vice activities...hardly u see the party involved is kr,tw,us or ru...who r the popular nationalities?

[Cheeky GUI]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

sounds like these taiwanese gals have WP to work in HFJ if can keep coming in...I may be wrong but if not then gal will sure U-turn back soon...

the gal is the best person to tell you the truth...unless for some reason she did not...

there is no truth to be hid from me.. it's just my own curiosity...

her air ticket back TW today got a stamp that reads WPSP, i assume means work permit season pass...?

so as long as they find an agent to help them 办签证, they sure won't kana stopped at make to fly back at the airport right? cos the 证 is legit...?

[damong777]

Originally Posted by Cheeky GUI

there is no truth to be hid from me.. it's just my own curiosity...

her air ticket back TW today got a stamp that reads WPSP, i assume means work permit season pass...?

so as long as they find an agent to help them 办签证, they sure won't kana stopped at make to fly back at the airport right? cos the 证 is legit...?

As long as have valid permit and employer did not cancel, they are allowed in based on validity of permit.

Most of tw and kor are on word permit as dancers etc so are valid for one month 2, 6 or 1 yr. 2 yrs one for entertainer may be less.