Boh-moh, Black Magic & Spells Etc

[MacDD]

Originally Posted by leakypipes

For bomohs or other ppl who keep jinn/spirits, cannot die until the entity is passed to someone. As far as I can recall from what my elders tell me, cannot exorcise. Only can pass on.

Yes . It is true to a certain extent. I was very curious about jinn/spirit keeping and I did ask different masters about it. What I know from them is this :
The above you mentioned is the “blindman ignorant” type of jinn/spirit keeping. And just as the person keeping the spirit/jinn – that same jinn or spirit is also keeping him. It is a relationship and never one-sided , except that the person have big disadvantages – he/she has a shorter life-energy span compared to the jinn/spirit and the human is generally unable to go into their worlds to do things like what djinn/spirit can do in the human world.

And like what bros mentioned in this thread – ultimately these type of djinn/spirit – they know that they have control over the human. Just that it must be the human to initiate the keeping relationship first. Once the human initiate “blindly” without doing proper “homework” – the person is finished.

Pray to God later on , or become what Christian, monk etc won’t help. Because if the Djinn/spirit cannot affect the person if he get scared because he embrace God or become a monk – his bloodline (children), and loved ones will surely get it from it(them). Djinn(Toyol) also got family and friends, can send it’s family/friends/soldiers to over-run the person and his family/loved ones.

Damn suay if you are the person’s love one or child. The only way for you to not get the aftermath impact is to disavow / disown the person – cut off all ties with the person (legally, spiritually and socially). Remember : the person whole-heartedly initiate the keeping in the first place – like signing the devil’s contract in blood.

So if the person want to leave this (blindly accepted) djinn/spirit relationship - yes - make a deal with the djinn/spirit to pass it on to someone ignorant who whole heartedly accepts. Again - this is bad karma. Damn bad. The person will still kena.



Then there is the “proper” way. But requires a true Djinn-keeper master to be the broker for the starting of the relationship. It is mutual – and either Djinn/spirit and the person can leave the relationship without repercussions.

Problem is this : when meet such a master – we don’t know his real intentions like why truly truly offer to bridge human and djinn/spirit. What’s in it for the master. Etc etc.

Final thing I know about this is – there is NO such true Djinn/Spirit-keeper master of good and pure heart who would offer such “services”, even if the person is desperate , dying, or been whacked by spirits and seek spiritual thing to help, (don’t even talk about wanting love, career, or money – which are small things) whatever etc. None.

Originally Posted by fishingman

No wondering powerful spirit master all look very old hag,mayb bcs is they cannot die easy.

If look hag, confirm his/her karma is sealed. Almost zero chance for turn-around.


Sorry I type lor sor

[fishingman]

Originally Posted by leakypipes

I see. But what you mean different ball game?

I tinking he meaning more power spirit,not the normal kind.

then all the normal thing we discuss here won't work so well.

[fishingman]

Originally Posted by ah rat

Monk by right should stay in temple.How cone yiu can see them staying in hotel.

i also see nw a day u go funeral can see monk drive big brand car themselves to attend funeral chanting for the dead ppl ceremony at hdb blk dwnstair. i saying is 1 monk one car type & is i see with my own eyes.

Sinkapore monk all very rich.

Go si ma lu also ard guan yin temple there can see monk smoking in grp.

[leakypipes]

Originally Posted by MacDD

Sorry I type lor sor

Not at all. Very detailed. Now I feel like I dodged a bullet.

[ah rat]

Originally Posted by fishingman

i also see nw a day u go funeral can see monk drive big brand car themselves to attend funeral chanting for the dead ppl ceremony at hdb blk dwnstair. i saying is 1 monk one car type & is i see with my own eyes.

Sinkapore monk all very rich.

Go si ma lu also ard guan yin temple there can see monk smoking in grp.

Heard from a monk ,telling that his girl is pregnant

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by fishingman

U got experience dropping in yr dreaming? Tat meaning i dream i falling frm far high place i also don't knw where & just keep on dropping & dropping but never fall to the ground kind until i wake up full of sweating. & even wake up still got a bit feeling of the falling feeling. Quite scary.

Yes. Yes. Finally i found someone that understand what i had gone thru during my childhood days. Its kind of nightmare. Woke up all sweat. Really scary i must say. That black figure very huge overtowering me and like u said i kept falling, like going into a never ending tunnel. But when i grown up i dont have such dreams anymore though occasionally i do drank those amulets burnt to ashes and dipped into water to drink. But that was years years back. I did check with my Javanese/malay friends. I am a baba. So malay language no problem. Do mix around with them in kampong. so learnt a thing or two from them. Later i gather that black object is actually a jinn i.e. according to Islam scripture. But in taoisim point of view is an angel. So we leave it here to individual belief.

Originally Posted by leakypipes

I see. But what you mean different ball game?

Some people gamble for small. Some gamble for big. U want big prize, meet the boss. Chief satan. But the stake is high. He will trade for your soul.

Originally Posted by fishingman

away frm temptation also.

chanting meditation accutemullate energy

I almost join my Malay group of friends for a "expedition" trip up Gunong Ledang. Theres a cave. Lots of mystery there. Though I am a Chinese, they still welcome me but i must stay away from pork. Too bad, i couldnt make it as last min my company need me to settle some urgent matters.

[nitecrawllerr]

Several bros who had PM me for ctc for help. My apologies for not reply to all of your PM. I am running short of space too.

I have posted the Thai temple address at Lor 16. Please do help yourself. Go personally to the temple and make appointment to meet the Master. To put on record, i have not been in touch with the master for many years now. But my friends told me hes still there.

[the_e_ones]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

I have posted the Thai temple address at Lor 16. Please do help yourself. Go personally to the temple and make appointment to meet the Master. To put on record, i have not been in touch with the master for many years now. But my friends told me hes still there.

Bro nitecrawllerr, had returned your nice gesture!

Cheers and Enjoy!

[Dino1]

Originally Posted by fishingman

Smtime malaysia one also got cm sinkapore,but must knowing the schedule. So source still malaysia 1st.

Sinkapore many bluff one,later ask me go guan-yin-ma.com ,download talisman,print out to burn & drink sure siao liao man ....hahaha...

i only joking here

Well, we are just sharing.
In fact source need not be just Malaysia. Hong Kong and Taiwan not bad.
End day, believe in n not superstitious.
Most ppl r normally being con atre those being over superstitious.

[Dino1]

Originally Posted by sky_liner2

Interesting bro, what is Jing Shu? Any link to view? Can you find this locally?

Yes of cos.
Jing Shu 经书 taoist scripture

[atee]

Originally Posted by fishingman

U got experience dropping in yr dreaming? Tat meaning i dream i falling frm far high place i also don't knw where & just keep on dropping & dropping but never fall to the ground kind until i wake up full of sweating. & even wake up still got a bit feeling of the falling feeling. Quite scary.

But bro. Why always got such dreams according to bro nightcrawler experience after drinking holy water? I mean suppose to be holy. Why have such scary dreams? Just curious.

[atee]

Originally Posted by Dino1

Yes of cos.
Jing Shu 经书 taoist scripture

Bro u study taoist scripture?

[leakypipes]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

Some people gamble for small. Some gamble for big. U want big prize, meet the boss. Chief satan. But the stake is high. He will trade for your soul.

Oh I see. I've been told by someone i consider a reliable source that not every soul has same value (he's not local). My soul is low value. Sell also no point =D

[Dino1]

Originally Posted by atee

Bro u study taoist scripture?

Hey bro, some master ask me to chant as it good for oneself.
Are you into it too?

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by fishingman

i also see nw a day u go funeral can see monk drive big brand car themselves to attend funeral chanting for the dead ppl ceremony at hdb blk dwnstair. i saying is 1 monk one car type & is i see with my own eyes.

Sinkapore monk all very rich.

Go si ma lu also ard guan yin temple there can see monk smoking in grp.

You think such monks have real powers?