Price Difference for Girls, Are we Paying PREMIUM to GIRL or OKT???

[Fiery dragon]

Originally Posted by Exciteme

Whether premium gal or special discount, ultimately i must feel comfortable to part (with) my hard earned money.

Totally agreed with bro Exciteme for this part. It's important to me to feel "worthwhile" after my session with the Thai FL be it $170 or $120.

Originally Posted by jasont

I have patronised the more expensive ones before and I'll say this, the difference in "quality" is negligible. I've taken cheaper OKTs whose hotel rooms are much better than those more expensive OKTs.

Well...Cat > $150 Thai FLs did "sometimes" come with better looks, body and provide better services with a bigger & better Hotel but i've received even better services from a Cat $110 pretty & nice body Thai FL with a normal Hotel. The choice or viewpoint is up to individuals...no OKTs can force their customers to patronise them. One party dying to "squeeze" the most $$ out of the customers & FL and the other parties(customers & FL) willing to be "squeezed".

[fantasyman]

U r right , support u and up your points

[lexus3rx]

I think 4 once I eat full nothing better 2 do n answer tis thread. Haha...

Xcuse me thread starter....

Y dun u turn the table around n ask urself if u r in the business now. When u do business, wat is ur main objective? Make s much money s possible rite? If u agree on tis, than I simply do not understand wat is ur objective in starting tis thread n stating wat u think is rite or wrong on wat the okt r doing.

4 all u knw, n I dun knw how u found out how much the gers received, the gers might b giving u wrong info isn't it?

Tats y I dun understand people like u lei....or mayb u alrdy did wat I 1 2 say now. Government say increase tis increase tat, eveything price go up, but no complain or dare not voice out in public lei...but now complaining abt tis kind of thing. I mean, patronising gers is a decision n choice u make urself not the government, n whether u 1 2 go look 4 the gers or not depends on ur own budget n guage ur own whether worthwhile or not rite???

so if everything are in ur own hand n its ur own call,y r u complaining?

[M_a_t_a_h_a_r_i]

Originally Posted by bigguy1980

These OKT charge them a service fee. (To pay for airticket, accomodation, logging, food etc)

But the agents always put that Food and Toiletries and CD will be supplied but them and the gals always thought that The OKT was the one supplying them with food, I always tell them that YOU are buying your own Food ,CD and toiletries .Simple calculation shows it covers the sum and even covers petrol for the OKT some of them kampong mah don't know how to calculate.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by astrozz

Let us not put our assumptions and get worked up over it. Unless you know/find out exactly how various OKTs/WLs work out their cuts . I know from some WLs that they have to pay for their own hotel stay , rooms are not provided by the OKT , so I am guessing different OKTs has different arrangements with their girls and as long as the girls and OKT can come to terms with it, why we bother ?

Generally , I will not go for OKTs who market their girls at higher rates . There are some who priced their LOS girls at 170/180 while the average is 150 giving excuses like very pretty, young, blah blah..... I have my own 'banned list' of OKTs I do not patronise no matter how good their girls can be , I dont even view their threads. There are enough supply of reasonably priced girls in the market , in fact , the supply is more than one can consume !

The bottomline is - we decide how much we wanna spend and where we wanna spend it.

Originally Posted by okietokie

Hi Bros,

Agree with bro astrozz


The bottomline is - we decide how much we wanna spend and where we wanna spend it.

I very much believe the OKT are earning thru "Commission" as all cheongster like us have to go thru him mah. ANd it also very much depend on the OKT's network or regular which eventually convince the OL to go under his wing of operation. That is why you can tell and see OL switching around OKTs.

And also for those FL who cant perform, you will realise, their stay is shorten to prevent any further reputation damage of the OKTs too.

Cheers bro !!! Hope i dun offend any bros !!!

Let's just say all I said is not based on assumptions. I have been cheonging for years and patronised so many OKTs when my friends book for me sessions.

To add a further note, my proficiency of thai language is so much better than many of these OKTs who operate thai FLs. So that is why I am able to find out how much these FLs get.

I do not want to drift on to whether which OKT collects TAX or which don't. Because it comes to more or less the same as the structure is different, end result is there. (But if the part on incurring loss, which I will explain in later part of this post)

I reiterate this simple fact again. I have no problems with OKTs who earns a cut from us. Don't come and tell us you are paying more for this FL to come SG and yet she is paid no different from other FLs. I only know that I am paying more to the OKT just because the OKT tells me a beautiful sweet lie that he is paying top bucks to get a top babe when in actual fact she is just paid like a normal FL same as from other stables.

As for the FL who can't perform, and gets sent back early. You think damage is done? The OKT already collected his 26 TAX slots into his pocket, so sending the girl back is the next thing he should do? He incur loss? I can't think of any loss when that 26 TAX slots already covers the HOTEL rates for the full 14 days plus the airfare. So the OKT will be more than happy to send her back so that can free 1 more room for the next girl to come down. If not those underperforming FLs, the longer they stay, the OKT will earn lesser and lesser. OKT just give you an answer, bro, I compensate you on your next visit. WTF? I still have to go and pay your FL next visit for you to compensate me.
It's like giving me a $20 shopping voucher with a minimum spend of $150 purchase.

So all these excuses are just wayang, talk cock.

OKT want earn our money, just be a bit more honest. As for those lanjiao studio pictures. Please lah, tell us we pay premium, Wah the pictures really premium standard. Fat girl, take until so Slim. Dark, take until so Fair. FLs at A-one hotel come tell us is Liang Jia Fu Nu. And since we paying premium, why no professional live pictures? Or is it OKT no money to buy a digital camera which now costs only $300-$400. Don't tell me OKT no money to buy.
The FLs really have to go to Ladphrao and pay 1000baht to get their studio pics FIXED. I used the word FIXED.

Tell us we pay premium, we pay you, but any action? So all the premium we pay all goes to lining their pockets rather than to our so-called interest.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by trax

I'm not trying to score points but just providing an alternative view, and I do agree with you fully on the bloody photoshopped pics. If indeed i was trying to achieve what you mentioned, i would have slammed you and spent my time posting "positive" FRs rather then bickering in your thread instead, dont you think?

If you can take a healthy argument... With regards to your above, I pose the question. Why do car importers bring in smaller, inferior, and/or cars that they make less profit on? But then again, on the other hand, I do see from your point as well. Why don't the agent bring in all the pretty ones instead and possibility increase his personal profits, leaving other agents to meet the demands on customers in the other market segments.

You can provide your side of your argument, but by doing that everyone can read and know. Whether they will have the misconception of you scoring points with them is up to them. But one thing for sure. OKT sure LOVES you.


If the car importer tells you he is paying more to bring in this car when in actual fact its the same as another and just want to con you of that extra $20000, don't tell me you will be so happy and say thank you to him?

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by lexus3rx

Y dun u turn the table around n ask urself if u r in the business now. When u do business, wat is ur main objective? Make s much money s possible rite? If u agree on tis, than I simply do not understand wat is ur objective in starting tis thread n stating wat u think is rite or wrong on wat the okt r doing.

4 all u knw, n I dun knw how u found out how much the gers received, the gers might b giving u wrong info isn't it?

You can tell us what is main objective. But got 1 OKT just PM me and tell me that if he has a choice, he would not want to be OKT. So is it a matter of choice or is it making money in shortest possible time.

Don't blame the girls for revealing the truth. I speak their language and this was what they asked me on the room rates and also the amount the got.
Why don't you ask the OKT whether what I said is the truth or not?

You want to make money, there is 101 ways. Pimping is a way. But to con us and tell us you pay the girl more(which is a bloody lie) when in actual fact the money goes to his pocket.

These people are no different from TT Durai from NKF. Tell us sad sob stories for people to donate when in actual fact is to line their pockets. It's only when the amount is revealed, the general public gets pissed.

Don't tell me you not paiseh if your are TT Durai?

It's good you stand out in support for your favourite OKT, because it will be to your interest when the next time you go and call their girls, they sure LOVE YOU DEEP DEEP and give you generous discount.

[Midnightiger]

I like to put in my 2 cents worth too.

Firstly, I really don't know what the fuss is all about.

Every FL coming to work already knows what cut they are getting and have already agreed including the first 25 or 27 customers' money going in for the room charges, toiletries, etc. So if they are not complaining, why are others complaining?

I don't believe that when we are paying a premium, our thoughts are that the money goes to the FLs. We pay the premium based on how we look at the FLs and how we feel, whether she's worth it or not. I mean, if a FL is not pretty, old, etc and the OKT tells us that she gets a higher cut so price increase, we'll go for it? I don't think so.

And with all th complaints that the OKT gets a higher cut when the price is higher, I don't see anybody commenting and say they will pay more to make it fair to the OKT for a $100 FL when the OKTs cut is $20. Do you? Do you give $20 to the FL and tells her to give it to the OKT since she's already getting $80??? I don't think so.

It's a buyer-sellers market out there. With whatever price being quoted, we look at the FLs, see the services provided, read the FRs to get confirmation, look ar our budget and decide for ourselves whether to go for it or not based on this. Definitely not based on what percentage the OKT or FL gets.

Regards
Tiger

[Footies]

Thats life man. Either you eat others or you will be eaten. The final choice is yours whether to use one okt or the other. For me, I take everything, photos and FRs with a large pinch of salt. If I don't like the price, I will not take the girl, no matter how pretty she is.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by Midnightiger

I like to put in my 2 cents worth too.

Firstly, I really don't know what the fuss is all about.



Regards
Tiger

I don't think you get my drift.
When price is pegged. We ask why?

Hotel rate increase.
Girl get more CUT.

If that is the case, Fair enough, I am more than willing to pay based on your reason.

If the OKT says, price increase, because he wants to get more CUT.
I wouldn't call his girl then.

So this is a so-called blatant way of telling a lie in order to line his pocket. And you want to tell me you condone this type of actions? No wonder some OKTs getting yaya-papaya in this forum when the things they do cannot see light

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by Footies

Thats life man. Either you eat others or you will be eaten.

So are you trying to express the notion that we are being eaten by OKT?

Eating the FL is not my style.

[Atrocious]

Sigh,

Dunno why I'm answering this thread when I've said this a million times.... U dun like it then dun patronise lor, come in here posting a thread on a topic thts been discussed to death accomplishes nothing except to waste bandwidth...

U seem to have loads of grieviances and have an arguement for everyone's point of view except bossman's... why is that, i wonder? scared that if u argue with boss he will put u into moderation? makes me kinda wonder about the conviction you have on the topic that u seem so passionate about.

If you really believe so strongly in what you stand for, why not put it into physical action? bring in your own stocks, charge the bare minimum, and increase the girl's cut... Then all the girls can go back with their pockets full and all the bros here can have cheap bonks, maybe u take a token $5 cut from every slot lor...

Basically, there're 2 things you can do here since u really duin like what u see... dun patronise OKTs here, stay at home and PCC or look for your own fun somewhere else like Bossman suggested... or back up your words with physical action like I mentioned above.

Opening one more thread like this and bitch about things is not going to change anything... the only thing you've achieved here is as I've mentioned just now, is wasting whatever precious little bandwidth we have.

Cheers!!!
Atrocious

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by Atrocious

Sigh,

Dunno why I'm answering this thread when I've said this a million times.... U dun like it then dun patronise lor, come in here posting a thread on a topic thts been discussed to death accomplishes nothing except to waste bandwidth...

U seem to have loads of grieviances and have an arguement for everyone's point of view except bossman's... why is that, i wonder? scared that if u argue with boss he will put u into moderation? makes me kinda wonder about the conviction you have on the topic that u seem so passionate about.

Don't worry, I wouldn't patronise those OKTS who say they charge premium to get good girls when in fact the extra we paying goes to their pocket.

I have a better suggestion for you, since you think that those kind of OKTs are right, it would be even better you tip your OKT more, so that they can faster climb up the shore and no need risk anymore by becoming an OKT. Since you believe in their lies and think they are right.

As for what sammyboyfor said, he said his points which was in reference to the tax issue. Mine thread was started based on OKT lying on paying premium to get good girls when in fact nothing extra was paid to get them here. If you still can't read, either you go get your brains checked at IMH or you get your eyes checked at any optical shop.

If your defence for them can get you extra discounts off your next procurement, I welcome your next reply.

[dexblu]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

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I reiterate this simple fact again. I have no problems with OKTs who earns a cut from us. Don't come and tell us you are paying more for this FL to come SG and yet she is paid no different from other FLs. I only know that I am paying more to the OKT just because the OKT tells me a beautiful sweet lie that he is paying top bucks to get a top babe when in actual fact she is just paid like a normal FL same as from other stables.

I dun tink its any of our biz to noe wats the arrangements between the gals n their agents. We pay $ to bonk. Can afford wat price range or u like which agent, jus go support them as ur pocket allows lor... Not happy with a particular agent or if u feel tat its overpriced... walk on to your next agent... Simple mah...

Tell us we pay premium, we pay you, but any action? So all the premium we pay all goes to lining their pockets rather than to our so-called interest.

As u have already pointed out in your "survey" n observations... NO ONE FORCES the gal to be a FL... Its a choice they make and they enter into this with their eyes WIDE OPEN !!! So i dun see wat the fuss is all abt. ? Free market = Freedom of choice. Simply put, who u wanna suppot, who u wanna bonk, how much $ u willing to part... THE CHOICE IS YOURS !! If u feel happy with ur bonk... and since u have the FLs welfare in ur heart... TIP them more or buy them gifts lor...

[Keng]

[QUOTE=raoulvii;2595567][FONT="Arial Narrow"][SIZE="3"]Don't worry, I wouldn't patronise those OKTS who say they charge premium to get good girls when in fact the extra we paying goes to their pocket.
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Hi 100kg poor ugly fatboy,

u obviously have your stand, other have theirs too..

This is not going any where...Let this die a natural death..
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TGIF..