Siao liao - Page 3

Doenitz79 · #31 08-04-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bongster

Yeap... tat is quite true but dun forget if the ger has bleeding gums there is also a risk factor there. Anyway cases from oral sex etc are very rare... www.thebody.com, there is a theorotical risk still.. most cases of HIV in Singapore involving heteorosexuals are thru unprotected sex and frankly if you have ons esp at discos etc, sometimes the alocohol gets to you, or you might think... local ger lar, educated, should know how to take care of herself.

I am afraid that some people might take my words or more accurately Mr Winder's words for the green light to go for BBBJ.My advice is don't-there are also many other nasty infections you can get from a sick WL's saliva.

WWEF · #32 08-04-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thaivisitor

KNN, can't you imagine what he's going thru right now? Give him a break!

Hi, bro TV, we all noe that he going through a very difficult time now....
From his previous posts, he seems a TN and HC chiongster...and he actually advised all samsters to wear a cap.....
I am not going to debate how he was infected, as we all noe, anything can go wrong, even with a CD.

But 1 life is already affected by this....excluding the WL.
So many ppl visit HCs/TNs everday, and the results can be devastating. Thats why we ask where he think he was infected....
We don't mean harm, and i am sorry if i sounded selfish or self_centred or watsoever...
The info is going to be very impt. for all of us here...
Again i empathize, my heart goes out to him...i hope he can find the courage soon..
No offence, pls, just my few cents worth.
PEACE.

beckham · #33 08-04-2005, 03:29 PM

yes, i do agree with WWEF and all the brothers here, i believe +++u bro should caution us where he got it from, so we can take extra caution in the future...

+++u bro, do take note that if you do need any help, you can request here, if possible, we can try and help you out of this crisis...

#34 08-04-2005, 03:30 PM

This thing make the brothers in the forum very worried. I looked through Bro Togu previous posts and most of them highlight his preference for TN and HC. He claims an aversion to GL as pp would recognise him. As I frequent the legal houses and use CD all the time (ALL THE TIME) I wonder if Bro Togu go the legal ones or not and does he wear CD. Balaji oredi say that there are no HIV cases in Geylang in the recent News. We want to amke sure at least legal GL houses are safe. All the bRos here wanna know where Bro Togu did it and did he wear CD or not.

righteousness · #35 08-04-2005, 03:33 PM

Actually his main problem now will b how to get wife to go 4 test.

I suggest this.. if he was married recently, say one or 2 years, can say 'I used to do it wif my previous gf, so y not check up to play safe'? But if he was married longer then dunno liao

bongster · #36 08-04-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DienBienphu

This thing make the brothers in the forum very worried. I looked through Bro Togu previous posts and most of them highlight his preference for TN and HC. He claims an aversion to GL as pp would recognise him. As I frequent the legal houses and use CD all the time (ALL THE TIME) I wonder if Bro Togu go the legal ones or not and does he wear CD. Balaji oredi say that there are no HIV cases in Geylang in the recent News. We want to amke sure at least legal GL houses are safe. All the bRos here wanna know where Bro Togu did it and did he wear CD or not.

Bro great to know you use CD all e time, however let mi warn you, cases in GL are not publicised, many of the WL retire suddenly because of failed health checks.

1) Imagine a house got HIV+ wat will happen to biz.
2) Many Thai and sometimes occasionally Cat 150 do RAW, read the tirak threads in GL forum.

Anyway FL are the most dangerous and die die die must wear cap. There are many who dun even care abt condom, if you dun believe walk down GL ask those indon minah say can dun wear bo, they sure say RAW they dun mind.

bongster · #37 08-04-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by righteousness

Actually his main problem now will b how to get wife to go 4 test.

I suggest this.. if he was married recently, say one or 2 years, can say 'I used to do it wif my previous gf, so y not check up to play safe'? But if he was married longer then dunno liao

Bro I have pmed Togu and waiting for his reply as I have professional help that could be aid to him. I know Togu has been online today but I have not received his pm... please Togu reply mi asap so I can get you in touch wif the people relevant in this field. I hope Togu chooses the right action. There are 2 roads to choose, namely the right one which is to take ARVs and lead a near normal life and with the use of condoms keep the disease in check or the wrong one which is to swear like Leonard(read my signature) who wants to spread the disease by going ard doing RAW.

#38 08-04-2005, 03:56 PM

http://www.moh.gov.sg/corp/about/new...do?id=30670856

Balaji's speech. Its interesting when he mention about geylang

thaivisitor · #39 08-04-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by righteousness

Actually his main problem now will b how to get wife to go 4 test.

I suggest this.. if he was married recently, say one or 2 years, can say 'I used to do it wif my previous gf, so y not check up to play safe'? But if he was married longer then dunno liao

I understand the concerns of fellow bros here. In fact, I myself would also want to know but I refrain from asking as I feel that if he wants to let us know, he will do it.

He will have a lot of "main" problems.

It is by law that the wife will have to go for test, and so does the recent people he have sex with.

Breaking the news to the family and wife is going to be one hell of a difficult. The family is going to know how and where he got it, who he might have pass on. His wife will know for sure the amount of cheonging he has done, etc. Whatever family consequences he may have to face, it is sad but he has to face it. If his wife wants to divorce him or whatever, there's nothing he can do about it. But if his family forgive him and provide him with support, than God Bless his family.

I tried to imagine myself in his situation. Really don't know what the fuck to do is considered right.

All I can do is wish him the best.

collin_23 · #40 08-04-2005, 08:43 PM

Bro DienBienphu,

There is no way to make sure that all legal GL houses r safe. Many of the WLs in the legal hses engage in RAW sex also. A few of the WLs had told me b4 that condom breakages r common if they r not careful. This is because many a times if customer immediately went in after the BJ with the condom on, the WL without any lubrication as such condoms will break, esp when they had served many customers during the day and had already cummed many times.

Only safe sex is abstinence till marriage or PCC gently. lol. (In case u PCC too hard than injure it. )

There is no point in asking him where or whom he suspected he got from. He may not be too sure himself either so how to answer u all, moreover his condition now.

Sex with condoms r not 100% safe either. There r so many kinda stds out there and any 1 will have disastrous consequences if affected.

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Originally Posted by DienBienphu

This thing make the brothers in the forum very worried. I looked through Bro Togu previous posts and most of them highlight his preference for TN and HC. He claims an aversion to GL as pp would recognise him. As I frequent the legal houses and use CD all the time (ALL THE TIME) I wonder if Bro Togu go the legal ones or not and does he wear CD. Balaji oredi say that there are no HIV cases in Geylang in the recent News. We want to amke sure at least legal GL houses are safe. All the bRos here wanna know where Bro Togu did it and did he wear CD or not.

Quill · #41 08-04-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by +++ugawa

I just receive my verdict. I have develop the antibodies and positive in the HIV test.
Now the doctor asking me to tell my spouse about it and want us to go for counselling.
The doctor also said need to register my name inside the book.
Me very down now, how to tell my family about it ?
Very very regret, wish I can turn back time.
Anyone also in that situation ? Can share how you go through it ? Me very depress and lonely now.
I advice other bros out there if can please reduce commercial sex. No joke here. I am one of the statistics.

Our prayers go out to Mr +++ugawa. Nobody deserves to be infected with HIV. While treatment is expensive in Singapore, I would advise him to see an infectious disease specialist soon about his options and what needs to be done next. Mr +++ugawa is probably newly infected, has not displayed any symptoms and has a high cd-4 count. He may not need to be put on ARV medication so soon. But his case would require monitoring.

There's also no point asking how he was infected. While most people say they wear condoms, remember that it has to be worn consistently. Also, there are no absolute guarantees in life. Condoms, though effective in preventing STIs, have a failure rate of about 5 per cent for whatever reason.

Casual sex is a risky business. The best anyone can do is to keep that level of risk to the minimum.

Quill

ayako · #42 09-04-2005, 01:33 AM

Telling wife about it is difficult. But some people may get infected from wife or girlfriend. What happens if tell wife and wife says: chey, I already have it now then you know. then how?

Not that I want to pressure and probe. Anyway better to clarify where the HIV was from. Can help make the world a safer better place.

Actually if I am infected with HIV I can't be bothered to come online to tell people about it because I will be worried day and night. Unless I really want to tell people the danger of raw. If really want to tell danger then 帮人帮到底 tell where get it from better. But also difficult to remember get from where as HIV will take some time to confirm.

john lone · #43 09-04-2005, 01:49 AM

just want to say - stay positive and be strong. i know it is
very depressing now, u need to pull through, in time they may
come out with a new vaccine.

all the best, if u need people to talk to, can just drop a line.

take care.

OkoBoko · #44 09-04-2005, 01:59 AM

[QUOTE=+++ugawa]I just receive my verdict. I have develop the antibodies and positive in the HIV test.
QUOTE]

Be strong my friend, u really needs yr family supports now. Hope yr wife can accept it.

#45 09-04-2005, 05:17 PM

Another source of danger:

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread...183#post897183

Swinger parties

Asked about the safety practised during
swingers’ meetings, the source confessed
that it is often neglected in the heat of the
moment.
“You can say that safety is aimed at not
getting any of the women pregnant. You
see, people are quite charged. It is difficult
to interrupt them and say: ‘Hey stranger,
please put on a condom before you continue’.”