Need help in appealing for entry of my VN wife with a criminal record

[FT86]

Originally Posted by milf5554

Cheating $500 from RWS = to stealing $$$ from the Government !

RWS is the milk cow of the Government!

SHE IS BANNED FOR LIFE!

Somehow I think what you said is true..

[momogaga]

Contrary to what other bros say, I would like to encourage and respect TS for his good intention for his parents and most importantly his sacrifice and unconditional love for his wife, despite all the troubles that his wife got into. That is what keeps us living and fighting TS. Love will find its way. I would consider seriously living in Vietnam permanently with your wife. As great as Singapore sounds, life has more sides to it than what a typical Singaporean life can offer these days. Of course I know you will make it soon with your business based in Vietnam. You are already adventurous enough and dare to take risk. All the best and have faith friend.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by momogaga

Love will find its way.

It's more like "Stupidity lasts forever".

Anyone who wants to marry and procreate with a crook and a gambler must be seriously lacking in some department.

What sort of moral values is a mother like that going to pass to her children!

[crood]

I heard of problematic maids changing identify/passport to get in to SG again, not sure applicable to TS's wife.

[Lost2013]

Originally Posted by crood

I heard of problematic maids changing identify/passport to get in to SG again, not sure applicable to TS's wife.

ICA takes fingerprints from foreigners, all 10 of them, a and scans them pretty frequently.. even when you did not do anything wrong. So I highly doubt it works. Also, foreigners who went to work as a lower leveled job, maids/construction worker, it's quite difficult for them to enter SG again.

Originally Posted by momogaga

Contrary to what other bros say, I would like to encourage and respect TS for his good intention for his parents and most importantly his sacrifice and unconditional love for his wife, despite all the troubles that his wife got into. That is what keeps us living and fighting TS. Love will find its way. I would consider seriously living in Vietnam permanently with your wife. As great as Singapore sounds, life has more sides to it than what a typical Singaporean life can offer these days. Of course I know you will make it soon with your business based in Vietnam. You are already adventurous enough and dare to take risk. All the best and have faith friend.

Thank you very much for your kind words. I am actually doing well here with my wife in Vietnam.. And I do encourage people to get a foothold in other countries if possible, while Singapore "rebuilds" itself back into a country instead of a huge SG Inc. company for the next few years.

To tell you the widely accepted truth, SG passport is what all foreigners wants. Not staying in SG itself. Earning $2,000 in VN and spending $1,000 a month is much better than earning $5,000 in SG and spending $4,500 a month.

A freehold, fully furnished 4 storey house + land in Ho Chi Minh City (5*15m *4 stories) (S$150,000) in VN is definitely better than a 99 years leasehold of a HDB toilet (4Rm+Assume toilet as 1rm: $500,000/5 = $100,000).

1.5 years here and no accident nor theft. (Though for 23 years in SG, nothing bad happened to me.. Safety is changing in SG now. Use Crime/Population in %.)

So yeah, why not?

Originally Posted by FT86

Somehow I think what you said is true..

True or not, it's in a Superposition. It can be true and untrue at the same time until I try to do something myself. Like sticking a USB into a port. You never know if it will fit or not, unless you try or look at it.

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

It's more like "Stupidity lasts forever".

Anyone who wants to marry and procreate with a crook and a gambler must be seriously lacking in some department.

What sort of moral values is a mother like that going to pass to her children!

It's all about the money, don't you think so? As someone who is the one who created this forum, that promotes what you deem as being "a crook and a gambler", isn't it all about the money? As "realistic" as you are trying to portray, we are in the same line. You earn your money via housing advertisements for commercial sex and online betting. My wife earns her keep via housing and connecting these people who provides the services. So what's with all the hate?

Also, I believe I am not giving people the image of me being a sheep, or someone who just follows without questioning. Able to be with such person and understanding such situation and trying to solve it, I am sure I am able to teach moral values to my children properly. I am also trying to set things straight for my wife. Have you tried to guide others to a better path, or negativity is your best forte?


No disrespect and cheers,

(MightNotBe)Lost2013.

[gombak1970]

why dont you start setting up business in SG with your wife name as partner and concentrate make sure you run it successfully within tis year or 2... make sure your wife holds a job profile with key responsibility in the company even though for the start she had to work remotely from viet due to no entry into SG.. i am sure if your company is able to generate millions turnover and both you have ur wife earns loaded say $100k or $200k per annum salary, ALL PROBLEMS GO AWAY!!...

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by Lost2013

It's all about the money, don't you think so? As someone who is the one who created this forum, that promotes what you deem as being "a crook and a gambler", isn't it all about the money? As "realistic" as you are trying to portray, we are in the same line. You earn your money via housing advertisements for commercial sex and online betting. My wife earns her keep via housing and connecting these people who provides the services. So what's with all the hate?

There is no hate involved. I don't know you or your wife from Adam. However when it comes to marriage and procreation I will choose a far better gene pool.

[Lost2013]

Originally Posted by gombak1970

why dont you start setting up business in SG with your wife name as partner and concentrate make sure you run it successfully within tis year or 2... make sure your wife holds a job profile with key responsibility in the company even though for the start she had to work remotely from viet due to no entry into SG.. i am sure if your company is able to generate millions turnover and both you have ur wife earns loaded say $100k or $200k per annum salary, ALL PROBLEMS GO AWAY!!...

I am planning to, but from the looks of it, it may not be that simple as to start a company which will have a turnover of 1 million anytime soon. 1) Business is business, unless you got a underground job going on that generates a lot, and then declare profits for your legal business, any normal business will seldom reach more than 10% of capital as profit monthly. I wanted to do this to hasten my wife's PR, but things went wrong before I could execute it. 2) Sg very messy now.. ~.~ LoL..

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

There is no hate involved. I don't know you or your wife from Adam. However when it comes to marriage and procreation I will choose a far better gene pool.

Life is about choices and chances. Not random ones. You can create an opportunity for something, but if the other related thing is not there, there is no chance for it to happen. If there is a choice for a better one, who wouldn't? So why not improve the situations of ones who are there by chance and the ones that are of each of our own choices?

As for better gene pool. I highly doubt most of us here has that kind of chance, let alone a chance to chose.. Hahahahaha..

[momogaga]

Some people didn't know what they were getting into when they married or did not marry for the right reasons. I can empathise with TS in some sense.

[porscheclub]

Well, we should applaud TS for making a stand by sticking with his wife. Giving up his livelihood & restart in a foreign land that few Singaporeans dare to.

A word of caution for TS, keep a plan B for yourself only. A private bank account that only you & parents/sibling knows that have access to in case shit happens, again.

I've seen enough of how wives & husbands of different races/ages took off in hard times. Very few couples stick through together especially when you're terminally sick, crippled and penniless.

[damong777]

Originally Posted by porscheclub

Well, we should applaud TS for making a stand by sticking with his wife. Giving up his livelihood & restart in a foreign land that few Singaporeans dare to.

A word of caution for TS, keep a plan B for yourself only. A private bank account that only you & parents/sibling knows that have access to in case shit happens, again.

I've seen enough of how wives & husbands of different races/ages took off in hard times. Very few couples stick through together especially when you're terminally sick, crippled and penniless.

will admire the guts of TS.

As for plan b, must put under your parent name in case of divorce or other legal issues.

[Summerhillt]

Brother TS , I can feel your agony. Right now at this point of time I can only state that you might be truly in love. You think that the grass is greener over at the ho chi minh side. But your only 25. Theres a very very long road ahead of you.

You want to choose her as your lifelong partner. We have totally no say in that but I wish you the best. (: Marrying and getting along with a foreigner is really not an easy deal. But I see you 25 years old can job hop still can open drink stall. Not bad what you.. got do sideline ah ? Haha.

I read the part your wife even got you to get air ticket for the indon girl in lockup. Yea , girls like this are hard to find. But you sure singapore don't have any ? Now you might think that who am I to say this ?

About 2-3 years back. I too met a wl in ktv. Shes a vietnam girl. Also those type shy shy sit down beside me than shy shy don't know what to do. Romance blossomed. I dare say I really felt that it was true love. I even decided to let go everything in SG and to go with her overseas.. but LDR simply is so hard to maintain. I even got her a laptop and even hooked up an internet connection to her place just to webcam her everynight. She stays in those really shit hole. Not forgetting at least 5 digit amount spent on her.

Love makes you do stupid things but you will find it all worthwhile if you think shes the one.

Ica will simply not give a flying fucking fuck about your appeals. Firstly Singapore is a very very realistic country. Hence we can get shit done so easily and fast. ( Takes 3 days to open a registered business ) Your wife went jail before. Your not a high income earner. Your wife and your education background are not high. Even S pass need degree now. The govt would not even classify you as a normal family nucleus.

Don't really blame the ICA. I mean the first day you chose her you know it's not going to be that smooth sailing right ? But filial you , want to make your parents happy. I say getting them over to Vietnam is really hard depending on their age. I suggest you just faster make a baby in Vietnam and than register the baby as a Singaporean. Get the baby back like let your parents take care or what.. Tell your wife that even if it hurts to leave the child but its for the child own good. Education system is def better and living condition too..

Good luck TS and godsend.

p.s If your baby is a boy , he has to serve 2 years for the govt who banned your wife. hahahah.

[hoian]

TS I have a simple solution for u. Bring her to JB and set her up with a small biz... mani/pedicure/hair salon etc. U can also stay with her there while visiting your parents back in SG anytime u are free.

[Lost2013]

Originally Posted by porscheclub

Well, we should applaud TS for making a stand by sticking with his wife. Giving up his livelihood & restart in a foreign land that few Singaporeans dare to.

A word of caution for TS, keep a plan B for yourself only. A private bank account that only you & parents/sibling knows that have access to in case shit happens, again.

I've seen enough of how wives & husbands of different races/ages took off in hard times. Very few couples stick through together especially when you're terminally sick, crippled and penniless.

Noted bro and thanks. I have my some cash savings in SG, but not that much, if anything happens, I got at least 6 months worth savings to restart anew again. So, should be good to go..

Originally Posted by damong777

will admire the guts of TS.

As for plan b, must put under your parent name in case of divorce or other legal issues.

Thank you bro. It's cash on hand (old notes) with my parents. Anything, they can use it also. I don't really trust the banks anyways. Nor does it feel good letting them use my money to earn money.. Hahaha..

Originally Posted by Summerhillt

Brother TS , I can feel your agony. Right now at this point of time I can only state that you might be truly in love. You think that the grass is greener over at the ho chi minh side. But your only 25. Theres a very very long road ahead of you.

You want to choose her as your lifelong partner. We have totally no say in that but I wish you the best. (: Marrying and getting along with a foreigner is really not an easy deal. But I see you 25 years old can job hop still can open drink stall. Not bad what you.. got do sideline ah ? Haha.

I read the part your wife even got you to get air ticket for the indon girl in lockup. Yea , girls like this are hard to find. But you sure singapore don't have any ? Now you might think that who am I to say this ?

About 2-3 years back. I too met a wl in ktv. Shes a vietnam girl. Also those type shy shy sit down beside me than shy shy don't know what to do. Romance blossomed. I dare say I really felt that it was true love. I even decided to let go everything in SG and to go with her overseas.. but LDR simply is so hard to maintain. I even got her a laptop and even hooked up an internet connection to her place just to webcam her everynight. She stays in those really shit hole. Not forgetting at least 5 digit amount spent on her.

Love makes you do stupid things but you will find it all worthwhile if you think shes the one.

Ica will simply not give a flying fucking fuck about your appeals. Firstly Singapore is a very very realistic country. Hence we can get shit done so easily and fast. ( Takes 3 days to open a registered business ) Your wife went jail before. Your not a high income earner. Your wife and your education background are not high. Even S pass need degree now. The govt would not even classify you as a normal family nucleus.

Don't really blame the ICA. I mean the first day you chose her you know it's not going to be that smooth sailing right ? But filial you , want to make your parents happy. I say getting them over to Vietnam is really hard depending on their age. I suggest you just faster make a baby in Vietnam and than register the baby as a Singaporean. Get the baby back like let your parents take care or what.. Tell your wife that even if it hurts to leave the child but its for the child own good. Education system is def better and living condition too..

Good luck TS and godsend.

p.s If your baby is a boy , he has to serve 2 years for the govt who banned your wife. hahahah.

Thank you for your encouragements and sharing your story bro.. Long road it is... But in chinese, 人生短短己10年, a few 10 years and we're gone.. Not really that long if you look at it that way.. So I chosen what I chose ba..

SG got, but taken or see me small fry.. Don't want together with me.. Or.. I didn't even try.. Hahaha.. But most likely it's because when I am slightly younger, I got the mindset of not staying SG because of the way my parents are quarreling everyday.. $.. I believe those who are from SG but not there anymore, it's the same reason..

LDR, same, not easy. And you spent so much already some more.. And at some point of time when wanting to give up, you might not know if you really love her, or because the time and effort and, of cause, money spent on her, that makes you not willing to let go..

And the method SG is doing things.. It's the reason why it's going the way it is heading now.. Got a Pub boss complain to us, if the girl know she going back already, she will use all methods to get money from customers, without thinking of those who will be there for a longer time. I think SG is heading that way.. getting money from residence.. till there's nobody left there.. LoL.. I somehow would like to thank ICA for making this move on me.. At least I got a bigger exposure to the world out there..

Hope you gotten someone special already too bro.. =D

Originally Posted by momogaga

Some people didn't know what they were getting into when they married or did not marry for the right reasons. I can empathise with TS in some sense.

Yup.. Young and foolish.. But now I'm pushing both of us to a better path.. Should be alright.. And time, it's really passing really.. really fast.. I kind of get scared sometimes.. Ha... =\

Originally Posted by hoian

TS I have a simple solution for u. Bring her to JB and set her up with a small biz... mani/pedicure/hair salon etc. U can also stay with her there while visiting your parents back in SG anytime u are free.

Thinking of setting up an import company there after a while.. Import VN stuffs over.. Hoping to not get into manual work.. So this would be a better option.. My parents fly over to VN often, and I go back to SG sometimes too, but got NS so quite difficult.. LoL.. Anyways, thanks for the suggestion bro!

[Xyberduke]

Originally Posted by Lost2013

Hello everyone,

I am a Singaporean, 25. I knew my Vietnamese wife since Mar 2012 and got married in May 2013. I have been in Vietnam for the past year and a half with her after she was deported back in Aug 2013.

I met her when I was finishing studying at ITE, after NS. Just before starting to work. I do not have anything valuable on me other than my youth and Singaporean Citizenship. So I jumped into the relationship like most kids would do.

Fast forward, I got a job, worked for a year, got lied into quitting my current job to join a bank IT job that was "confirmed" but end up gotten KIV (Keep In View), and eventually lost into the abyss.. I started a juice stall and tried my best to work things out financially. Got too busy and my wife went astray.

This was only after 3 months into my business and marriage. Her friends asked her to follow them to RWS casino for a round or two while I was out working. Little did I know that she continued gambling for a whole month before the incident took place. Along with a lost of about $30,000.

She was kind of neglected by me while I was at work, Vietnam having problems with her own family, and the lost of $30,000 over the period, she started betting on multiple tables to hasten her recovery. The "friend" of hers, who is there only to ask winners for some "lucky money", went to "suggest" her to take back her bet when the banker didn't notice that she lost the bet. Her "friend" showed her once and it worked, she wasn't caught and it seems easy enough to do too.

My wife is not stupid to do such a thing, but by playing multiple tables, she sometimes did not know whether if the results are out or not yet and with her "friend" following her, prompting her to take the bet back on the tables, saying you didn't lose, she did it. And one fine day, she was caught. Caught for cheating a mere $200, and 2-3 more incidents of less than $50. Amounts that my wife can easily earn in Vietnam.

It was after lunch hour. I've received a letter from ICA that says I am able to apply for Long Term Pass for her that very morning. Thought she wakes up late, so I thought I would tell her after lunch. This sounds so much like a story but I guess stories comes from experiences of people.

I rushed down to RWS and she was sent to Clementi police station. I ensured her that I am right behind her. Went over there only to receive a call from her investigating officer that she is sent over to Cantonment HQ. Caught a glimpse of her entering the police car. She saw me there, and I mouthed the words of "Don't worry, I am there for you", and I can see that she felt slightly relief.

Your only avenue is to approach your MP. They will help under any situation. This is SOP, please do this first.