How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type

[jamezwit]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

If you have a BY, why u let her pick where to stay?
Shouldnt you just get her a place and say like.....NAH....U STAY HERE!
Guess you must be a ladies man.....u not in control dude!!!!!!!
Bad....BAD!

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company. And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support). :-)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by jamezwit

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company.

Ah, i see

Originally Posted by jamezwit

And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time

That's why there are agents to do the legwork

Originally Posted by jamezwit

and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support). :-)

So based on this, mean you loaded now liao la...eh bro, can pass some over to a poor poor man to spend?????

[warbird]

Originally Posted by AAdam

Thanks for the information...

Apparently, it seems like all these baoing belongs to those people who have the financial power to have a go. It will be a tall order for normal working folks to participate in this game.

out of curiousity, how much does it cost to be in this game in Singapore & China?

The prerequisite for BY-ing is moolah.

The cost varies widely in Sin n China. I should leave this for more experienced bros to answer as my personal experiences may not be typical.

Personally, in SIN, I hv been paying SGD 8-12k a month plus rent, etc. for full-time BY-ing n 4-6K if they continue to run KTVs. For exceptional cases, I hv paid much more...

In China, the same type of gals will require RMB15-25K in SZ, 10-15K in Wuhan n 5-10K in a small town for full-time BY-ing.

A pretty 17 yo in 秦皇岛 （some place in Hebei）demands RMB10k a month only. She wont come to SIN ( when she turns 18 in 2 months) for 5X more plus expenses.

Originally Posted by jamezwit

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One of my BY gave me a fright before, when she randomly pick a rental place that is next block to mine. Postive thing is convenience, when need to release stress, it's right next block, but think of the embarassment if she runs into me downstairs and call out to me or worse sticky sticky hold hand. Die on the spot if seen by neighbour or family. I quickly told her to reject that flat saying random reason that I know the area and it's not safe etc.

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

If you have a BY, why u let her pick where to stay?
Shouldnt you just get her a place and say like.....NAH....U STAY HERE!
Guess you must be a ladies man.....u not in control dude!!!!!!!
Bad....BAD!

Our chairman is always right.

We men must hv control n power in the RS.

Piss them off n they will beg for more. Suck up to them n we lose everything.

Originally Posted by MillerV

Great Post!!
Be Cool! Be a MAN, Do the RIGHT thing!!!
=) I like this post

Nothing is more attractive to a woman than a man who is always cool n in control.

Originally Posted by jamezwit

This one a bit different, I only need to pay partial of her rent because she works as an executive in a listed company. And trying to arrange and get master room is a lot of work and I no time and not really alot of money (at that time, got another BY that I support).

Hi bro jamezwit,

OK, understood.

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Ah, i see

That's why there are agents to do the legwork

So based on this, mean you loaded now liao la...eh bro, can pass some over to a poor poor man to spend?????

Hi Mr. Chairman,

Haha...no no no, he should pass some to me first as I need it more urgently!!!

Cheers!

Bro WB

[jamezwit]

Originally Posted by warbird

The prerequisite for BY-ing is moolah.

The cost varies widely in Sin n China. I should leave this for more experienced bros to answer as my personal experiences may not be typical.

Personally, in SIN, I hv been paying SGD 8-12k a month plus rent, etc. for full-time BY-ing n 4-6K if they continue to run KTVs. For exceptional cases, I hv paid much more...

In China, the same type of gals will require RMB15-25K in SZ, 10-15K in Wuhan n 5-10K in a small town for full-time BY-ing.

A pretty 17 yo in 秦皇岛 （some place in Hebei）demands RMB10k a month only. She wont come to SIN ( when she turns 18 in 2 months) for 5X more plus expenses.

Bro WB

My experience is different, which I put it down to the type of girl. Mine are all students (not those using student pass to work at KTV or WL) or real working professional (one of the PRC girl here as childcare teacher, as I checked her out at her workplace) and one as an executive in a factory (I picked her up at het workplace a few times). They are lonely, most times are betrayed by BF back home or just want a BF that can show a bit (or a lot, up to you lah) of understanding and treat them nice. So mine range from 800 (only to offset rent) to 2k (my limit).

[warbird]

Originally Posted by jamezwit

My experience is different, which I put it down to the type of girl. Mine are all students (not those using student pass to work at KTV or WL) or real working professional (one of the PRC girl here as childcare teacher, as I checked her out at her workplace) and one as an executive in a factory (I picked her up at het workplace a few times). They are lonely, most times are betrayed by BF back home or just want a BF that can show a bit (or a lot, up to you lah) of understanding and treat them nice. So mine range from 800 (only to offset rent) to 2k (my limit).

Hi bro jamezwit,

You r truly a master for getting the gals u want at low expenses. You must be very romantic, charming n hv excellent self control.

I did hv a brief RS w/ a Presidential Scholar at NUS, a 19 yo PRC gal (see my posts in late Dec 2009) who only wanted 4K a month (I think she would hv accepted 3K a month). She had to study hard n I could meet her only twice a wk. My main concern was that her pussy might not be exclusive to me.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

There is a 26 PRC virgin (?) in SIN who is a non-WL OL who is looking for a BF to take care of her. She is a very decent n nice gal. What she wants is relatively modest. She is interested in having the right feelings n rapport n money is of secondary importance. She is a good fren n former roommate of my GF GG. Any interested bros may PM me.

A good fren, a very experienced playboy, once told me abt kissing when I was still wet behind my ears. "If a Chinese gal willingly allows you to french her, her pussy is yours ( at least 99% true ), but not so w/ Ang Mo gals..."

Decades later, I can confirm that he is spot on n his axiom holds true for KTV gals n non-WLs alike.

Sometimes there is a long lag time between kissing a gal n tasting her pussy. The longest is w/ the SH songbird SS aka CD. It took 5 months.

Another sex guru sent me some interesting advice on KISSING. I like share it w/ bros here.


SIX GOLDEN MOMENTS WHEN YOU'D BETTER KISS HER

You've probably been conditioned your entire life to aim for that
all-important first kiss with a woman when you've walked her to her
doorstep at the end of an evening together.

Forget that. Why save it for the very last?

Besides missing out on all the potential excitement that could have
happened earlier in the night, you end up looking like every other
unimaginative dork she's dated since middle school.

That said, I fully get that making the first kiss happen at exactly
the right time seems as if it's easier said than done.

But no worries. I've got your back, as always.

Here are a half-dozen moments that are tailor made first kiss
opportunities just about every time:



1) When She's Talking Nonstop


This goes double if she's mildly perturbed over something. Perhaps
she has started to go on about her bad day at work, her mean
professor and/or an evil co-worker.

But even if she's just turning a bit too much into a "Chatty Cathy"
in general, here's a universal truth that every man should know.

You already know that the best way to shut up a group of noisy guys
is to put food in front of them. But if you want to shut a woman
up, kiss her.

And don't be surprised afterward if she forgets what she was
talking about.

The caveat here, of course, is that we're assuming her excessive
chatter hasn't negatively affected her attractiveness to you...which
I understand could be a distinct possibility.


2) When You Are Opening The Car Door For Her

A lot of people want to pronounce chivalry dead at the scene.

But as I've said in The Man's Approach program, if you don't bother
to open the car door for a woman you're missing out on one MASSIVE
opportunity to get the first kiss out of the way.

I mean, where else can you literally corner a woman and actually
have her feel safer, warmer and fuzzier as a direct result?

This is money, I tell you.


3) When There's Even The Briefest Of Pauses After You Lock Eyes At
Close Range

The tragic part about this particular phenomenon is that EVERYONE
recognizes when it's happening.

But the problem is that far too many of us come down with a sudden
outbreak of "Too Good To Be True Fever" when it happens FOR US.

Learn from the movies, gentlemen.

Admit it. Every time you've ever seen a guy bonk at this point in
a movie, you knew he was blowing it. And the guy who gets the girl
in that same movie NEVER misses the cue, does he?

So when you're talking to a woman--or are even just generically
present with her, frankly--and you find yourself a foot away from
her staring into her eyes wordlessly as if the world were standing
still...it is.

And the world is standing there screaming, "KISS HER NOW!"


4) When Plans Change Or Certain Interruptions Take Place

Okay, this one's a bit trickier.

What we're referring to here is NOT when a major crisis hits or
when you've got to act fast to correct something that's a pressing
concern.

We're also NOT referring to when her babysitter calls telling her
to "come home immediately" or when she flakes out on you. Of
course not.

What we ARE talking about is when you're given the GOLDEN
opportunity to take a slight glitch in your perfect plan and boldly
show that your overall demeanor and personal control over the whole
situation are NOT affected by it.

The Notebook is not on most guys' list of favorite movies, but
there's a certain scene in it where the guy and the gal are in a
rowboat together surrounded by swans.

The "storybook" moment is rudely interrupted by a sudden torrential
rainstorm.

As the woman starts fretting about the situation, the guy does the
right thing. He grabs her and kisses her brains out, turning the
whole melee into the hottest five minutes either of them has ever
experienced.

Nice going, there.

Your version might not be as dramatic.

Nevertheless, that locked door to a restaurant you thought was
still open or even changing a flat tire in a tux probably should
lead to a first kiss...provided you're a Big Four man with a woman
along who is attracted to you.


5) Whenever She Expresses Slight Embarrassment Or Good-Natured
Regret At Having Said Something Silly

Ah yes...I love this one.

If a woman is concerned over having embarrassed herself a tiny bit
in your presence or thinks she just said something silly, that's a
universal sign that she's digging you.

What better way to reassure her when she's experiencing such worry
than to remove all doubt that she hasn't messed up nearly as badly
as she thinks?

Kiss her, already. Make it all better.


6) Whenever You Instinctively Sense That She's Expecting It

This one is along the lines of the third point above, but more
generally applicable.

ANY time you get the unmistakable vibe that she WANTS to be kissed,
you not only SHOULD kiss her you'd BETTER kiss her.

I mean, how many hints does a chick have to drop, dude? Start
getting them. Otherwise, she's going to think you're either gay or
a total wimp.

The bottom line here is that most women LOVE to be kissed and they
WANT to be kissed by a man they like.

When you are on a first date with a woman and she appears to be
enjoying herself, you could probably kiss her without much drama
and with great success.

If you're on a second date with her, you can consider that a
foregone conclusion. She wouldn't BE THERE if she wasn't feeling
attraction.

Knowing that, remember the six golden moments I've described for
you today and you'll never be at a loss for gauging the RIGHT TIME
for that first kiss to happen ever again.


Be Good,

Mr. XYZ

[chenzong]

Wow, this thread is still going strong, and so is Bro WB!

[MoralEpitome]

Yes....great source of inspiration....

[hock19]

I have been reading through this thread and there are two areas that I would like to make some comments, coming from my experience.

It appears that to bao a SYT, it seems that a vast amount of money is involved. Say 8k plus as per what one of the bros mentioned. And on top of that you need to be at the top of the "manhood" chain to claim that woman. I believe this is due to you wanting a pretty and nice SYT which other guys are after. I have been also been involved with gals from china, but I prefer older than SYT. Maybe early 30s. Some of those, I have had a very good relationship for the past year. When she is in sin, we go for a bonk, say once a week, and she does not go with others. We don't even go shopping, but if she needs money, say to extent passport, or whatever, I help contribute. I don't pay all! Just to tell them that they too need to earn their keep. When she is in china, I go there for a couple of days and we spend the days in the room, cuddling up, except for lunch and dinner where we go out. So, in general, when in Singapore, in the average, it is below $1k per month. I tell them that I cannot afford a lot of money and actually tell them that if they want money, then they can go find a rich guy. But I treat them as a person and a woman, and when I ask them why they like me, they say, that I treat them well. This then goes to the next topic which I read in this thread and that is how to threat them in bed.

I always make them enjoy and cum, and I do not necessary need to cum to enjoy myself. So I can last a couple of hours and in china when I am with them, I must ensure that I come say when I am ready to sleep then I cum, and then rest till the next morning. I think one should thread them like a woman. Like in bed, going to sleep, you would fall asleep in each others arms.

So maybe, giving them good sex is something to get them to like or remember you to the extent that they would enjoy your company, and not have cash coming in the way. Off course, I am fair to them as well, and will give them an equivalent or more than what I wouldmgive them, say on a per bonk basis.

Although, most bros would say that money is foremost in their minds when they come to sin, It might be that I am naive, but I always hope that the girls that I wish to know would like me not just from the money point of view. I guess sometimes, it works and sometimes no!!

So in conclusion, maybe how much money you give the girls depends on your relationship with them, and giving them good sex also helps!

And btw, this MILF which I mention that I don't give too much money is really a looker, and not your average street walker. There was one afternoon, after a bonk in a hotel, and when she was walking to my car, she was walking 100m in front of me. A guy in a BMW or was it an AUDI, came and followed her and then asked if she needed a lift to anywhere. When she told me that, it really made my day.

[Dragonkeep]

Originally Posted by hock19

It appears that to bao a SYT, a vast amount of money is involved. Say 8k plus as per what one of the bros mentioned. And on top of that you need to be at the top of the "manhood" chain to claim that woman. I believe this is due to you wanting a pretty and nice SYT which other guys are after. I have been also been involved with gals from china, but I prefer older than SYT. Maybe early 30s. Some of those, I have had a very good relationship for the past year. When she is in sin, we go for a bonk, say once a week, and she does not go with others. We don't even go shopping, but if she needs money, say to extent passport, or whatever, I help contribute. I don't pay all!

I always make them enjoy and cum, and I do not necessary need to cum to enjoy myself. So I can last a couple of hours and in china when I am with them, I must ensure that I come say when I am ready to sleep then I cum, and then rest till the next morning. I think one should thread them like a woman. Like in bed, going to sleep, you would fall asleep in each others arms.

And btw, this MILF which I mention that I don't give too much money is really a looker, and not your average street walker. There was one afternoon, after a bonk in a hotel, and when she was walking to my car, she was walking 100m in front of me. A guy in a BMW or was it an AUDI, came and followed her and then asked if she needed a lift to anywhere. When she told me that, it really made my day.

Great sharing and personally helpfully self-validating. I think your notes gel with something I have been wondering about too - that the $$$ support factor seems very much tied to the age factor for the gal. There's clearly IMHO a sort of market at work out there.

I have a very sweet MILF (Goat year) working at TAM on my reserve bonk list -a very nice and warm gal from Hunan with an amazing smile and great set of teeth (done commercials before with them). Helped her move house, find a new place, pay say a month rent at PPC for a solo room etc. I can agree my experience mirrors the points you make - I hardly pay anything much else for the bonks we've had compared to what the SYTs demand. The GFE with my MILF is also so high sometimes I get guilty with all that splurging on SYTs!! This brings to mind my first long term local Singapore FB (an ex-SQ gal MILF) -that was really a pure bonking relationship for 7 years. All for free except for the occasional meal treat. The other plus factor for the MILFs I've known is their maturity and general capacity for TLC. They have seen it all by then I guess and realise the competition out there. I sometimes have to crack the whip with SYTs to get them down to earth - although I must admit when they flash those sexy youthful looks to get their way ... sheesh, sometimes the iron will cracks

I am sure your MILF is a great looker (from the BMW story you have) - and if your experience gels on this point too, a number of the very young (say under 24) tend to be kinda stiff and less adventurous in bed. In other words, I have found the sex quality to be much much better with the older ones. I have had no issue doing all kindsa kama sutra with my mid-late 20s onwards types. Like you, our bonkings in China are also pretty much all-day / night affairs and I settle for a cum before sleep pattern after the first day (where shooting 2 loads after such a long absence has been the SOP for a while!!).

[MillerV]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro jamezwit,


Knowing that, remember the six golden moments I've described for
you today and you'll never be at a loss for gauging the RIGHT TIME
for that first kiss to happen ever again.

Be Good,
Mr. XYZ
[/SIZE]

Mr XYZ is GOOD!
Glad i read the whole posting!!
Thanks WB

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Get a SYT, be ready to service
Get a MILF, be ready to be SERVICED!!!
Same tot bro

[warbird]

Originally Posted by chenzong

Wow, this thread is still going strong, and so is Bro WB!

Hi bro chenzhong,

Long time no see. Will u come back in Dec?

Originally Posted by MoralEpitome

Yes....great source of inspiration....

Hi bro ME,

I hv read ur posts in many other threads.

You r a master of leverage! You're getting great returns n all the fun w/ very modest investments.

Originally Posted by hock19

I have been reading through this thread and there are two areas that I would like to make some comments, coming from my experience.

It appears that to bao a SYT, it seems that a vast amount of money is involved. Say 8k plus as per what one of the bros mentioned. And on top of that you need to be at the top of the "manhood" chain to claim that woman. I believe this is due to you wanting a pretty and nice SYT which other guys are after. I have been also been involved with gals from china, but I prefer older than SYT. Maybe early 30s. Some of those, I have had a very good relationship for the past year......................

So maybe, giving them good sex is something to get them to like or remember you to the extent that they would enjoy your company, and not have cash coming in the way. Off course, I am fair to them as well, and will give them an equivalent or more than what I wouldmgive them, say on a per bonk basis.
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So in conclusion, maybe how much money you give the girls depends on your relationship with them, and giving them good sex also helps!

And btw, this MILF which I mention that I don't give too much money is really a looker, and not your average street walker.............

Originally Posted by Dragonkeep

Great sharing and personally helpfully self-validating. I think your notes gel with something I have been wondering about too - that the $$$ support factor seems very much tied to the age factor for the gal. There's clearly IMHO a sort of market at work out there.

I have a very sweet MILF (Goat year) working at TAM on my reserve bonk list -.................................I sometimes have to crack the whip with SYTs to get them down to earth - although I must admit when they flash those sexy youthful looks to get their way ... sheesh, sometimes the iron will cracks

I am sure your MILF is a great looker (from the BMW story you have) - and if your experience gels on this point too, a number of the very young (say under 24) tend to be kinda stiff and less adventurous in bed. In other words, I have found the sex quality to be much much better with the older ones.....

Hi broshock19 n Dragonkeep,

Ths so much to both of u for sharing ur sexploits n insights. Both of u appear to enjoy RS w/ MILFs...

Unfortunately, I prefer SYTs n those chio gals <25. They must hv a certain looks that I find attractive. In addition, they also must hv my preferred body proportions. I can't help it.

However, one of my best fxks is w/ a 27 yo MILF from Hubei, which I detailed recently. She serviced me very well n had COS herself n even squirted. Sadly she is still in China...

Yes, giving regular COS to a gal is vital, but by itself is often not enuff to get a gal addicted to or fall in love w/ a man. Other psychological triggers n conditioning r necessary. Ironically, a financial arrangement may be an impediment.

You see, a gal falls in love w/ a man NOT for who he is, but for how he makes her feel (especially abt herself). In a BY-ing RS, no self-respecting gal will feel good, especially if the RS is relatively short-term. So it will take more time n effort in BY-ing for a BAO-ee to fall for a BAO-er. That is a fun game, isn't?

Indeed, we men pay a lot more for exclusivity n for the oppty to KC these gals. Whether it's cost effective depends on each individual. For me, it's worth every penny n then some. Why? I'm hving all the fun while learning a lot abt life, abt oneself n abt others, etc...in the interim, I hv discovered the meaning n importance of self mastery n unconditional happiness. I'm greatly indebted to all my current n former mistresses for making my transformation possible, hehehe. Oops, I should also mention all my frens/bros who hv also played a vital role in my formative months (not years yet).

Just my 2 cents, experienced n esteemed bros r invited to comment on n/or refute my hypothesises.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by MillerV

Mr XYZ is GOOD!
Glad i read the whole posting!!
Thanks WB

Yes, Mr. XYZ is quite a guru.

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Get a SYT, be ready to service
Get a MILF, be ready to be SERVICED!!!
Same tot bro

Mr. Chairman,

Yes, ur statement is very true. But most SYTs in a BY-ing RS r more than willing to learn or else they hit the road...hahaha.

Ths for ur call the other day. It's always a pleasure to receive a call form the Chairman himself.

As I mentioned, I'll be meeting a PRC gal in an Indonesian island. No KC. I just crave her youthful yet voluptuous body...

Her student visa was rejected n she is coming to SIN on a singer permit. I'll support her only if it's the non-working type.

Cheers!

Bro WB

[hock19]

Originally Posted by Dragonkeep

I am sure your MILF is a great looker (from the BMW story you have) - and if your experience gels on this point too, a number of the very young (say under 24) tend to be kinda stiff and less adventurous in bed. In other words, I have found the sex quality to be much much better with the older ones. I have had no issue doing all kindsa kama sutra with my mid-late 20s onwards types. Like you, our bonkings in China are also pretty much all-day / night affairs and I settle for a cum before sleep pattern after the first day (where shooting 2 loads after such a long absence has been the SOP for a while!!).

Totally agreed. The younger ones might be better looking but to me, it is on the surface. MILFs tend to be more "understanding" in the relationship and there is much more GFe feelings between me and them, which translates more into sex and passion which is what bro Dragonkeep mentions . And they seem to also be more appreciative if you treat them well.

But after saying that, sometimes, a good bonk with a young pretty girl is good for the system and ego, but I doubt if I would bao a younger girl for the above reason.

But generally, I prefer older, say 26+ or even 30+ as maybe I am an old cock!!

ha ha

[jamezwit]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro jamezwit,

You r truly a master for getting the gals u want at low expenses. You must be very romantic, charming n hv excellent self control.

I'm average in everyway, in fact "slightly" overweight haha. I just learning from failures and successes (first few BYs). Human being, unfortunately and fortunately, are not like plants where a bit of attention and nourishments will do great, but it's the outcome of randomness that we enjoy the varieties? ;-)

Now, I practice a bit of self confidence when we actually want to know the BY whereabouts and activities especially since they are student or executive with day job. But I leave hints/questions here and there (how r u today? still dosing off at that particular lecturer? your boss still making advances at you? How's your headache? etc) but no directive to say they must update me. They know they are BY, but a bit negative if told to report their every move, so hinting works for me so far, and they know if they don't keep us happy, there goes the purse string (even though however little $ it is in my cases) and the hints also works double as showing concern ;-)

Originally Posted by warbird

I did hv a brief RS w/ a Presidential Scholar at NUS, a 19 yo PRC gal (see my posts in late Dec 2009) who only wanted 4K a month (I think she would hv accepted 3K a month). She had to study hard n I could meet her only twice a wk. My main concern was that her pussy might not be exclusive to me.

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If only can see twice a week, I see your concern. If it's up to you to determine any two nights without prior arrangements, still a bit troublesome.

And good sharing on the kissing thing. It works for me in a cinema 20mins into the show on second date, after that can't keep our mouths away from each other too long and hands also go everywhere during the show.

[jasdude]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Get a SYT, be ready to service
Get a MILF, be ready to be SERVICED!!!

cannot agree more . education of the young is important . so when they turn milf they know how to return the favour .