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#2041
06-05-2009, 01:55 PM
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Now no more this price liao ..that was promotion a few months ago.
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#2042
06-05-2009, 08:32 PM
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Yesterday I decide to give LiLi's girl another try and boy did I make the right decision. LiLi remembers me and remember which girls I have tried. She said she will introduce a young, fair and cute girl. Got a call about 45 mins later and went to pick her up.
She's rather short.. about 1.53m but she is very fair with short hair. (Something new for me) She seems shy as we took the elevator upstairs. After chatting a little bit she asked me what service I wanted - nice.. play innocent? We took a shower together and I started the action, started caressing her etc. Once we are on the bed the action started. She loves to be painted and fingered.. she came twice. Later on she showed me the bite marks on her arm, she did that to prevent herself from screaming. The FJ was excellent, she is willing to try different positions. After about 2-hours of fun.. I'm spent. When she left she didn't ask for a tip or taxi fare but I gave her extra anyway - well worth it. Name: Yang Yang Age: Didn't ask but young perhaps early twenties Looks: 9/10 - girl next door look Boobs: 8/10 - B cup and perky Body: 8/10 - smooth fair skin with a bit of baby fat BBJ: 10/10 - take it slow and deep for a good 10 minutes FJ: 9/10 - she really enjoyed it RTF: Hell.. yeah..
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#2043
07-05-2009, 12:08 AM
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#2044
07-05-2009, 11:55 AM
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i think i tried the same girl. unless lili has another yangyang also short and short hair. looks is not bad, she says she is a beautician by trade. agree with your FR, except i may not rtf 
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#2045
07-05-2009, 10:09 PM
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Bro Bjboo,
I guess it the same girl - she did mention something about that. Torn between going back to her and trying others. Do you have any good recommendations? Quote:
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#2046
08-05-2009, 10:23 AM
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3some?? Don't have that kind of energy
 2some is something to consider.. Quote:
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#2047
09-05-2009, 09:40 PM
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Lilli's girls are excellent service providers and I strongly recommend Fei Fei to anybody interested.
I tried her earlier this week, and was very satisfied. FR Name: Fei Fei Age: 23 Looks: 7/10 - cute, but not SYT Boobs: 7/10 - very perky, loves to be grabbed, but slightly smaller around B cup. BBJ: 9/10 - lots of saliva, very wet, long duration, excellent. FJ: 9/10 - she was extremely wet the throughout the entire process, very enthusiastic, worked hard to make me come. Participated in a multitude of positions. I'm looking forward to booking more of Lilli's girls in the coming week. Pretty good for Beijing standards.
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#2048
09-05-2009, 10:02 PM
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Re: Beijing Recommendations
First of all, as a new member I felt I would immediately contribute by writing a “Guide for Mongering in Beijing”.
I am moving to Singapore, and hope to exchange information with some of the seasoned pros in Singapore. The observations below primarily apply to Beijing, but I think they can generally be applied to any city in China. There are hotels, bars, KTVs, and Saunas everywhere, it is just a matter of finding them. I will only comment on the pay-to-play (P2P) business in this post as I feel the “freebie” scene actually costs you more in the long run both financially and emotionally. I encourage other senior members to comment/revise my observations below – I certainly do not claim to know everything about the scene in Beijing, but want to throw out some general information. I have decided not to provide any specific locations as I do not want to point Law Enforcement Officials to any of the remaining venues, but a Mongers in China can be divided into 2 general categories – the visitor, and the resident. While this is a very obvious observation, it should be considered when you read the posts on this board. My perspective of a “good deal” might be very different from yours, and we are most likely both right. Residents typically have a bit more flexibility, but often do not want to bring girls back to their own apartment. With more flexibility they often are more price conscious – if I don’t take someone tonight, there is always tomorrow night. Residents also have the ability to develop a deeper relationship with the “regular” girls who work at his local pub. He can become protective of the girls, and the girls will sometimes become protective of him. Visitors are normally in China for a short time, working during the day time, and free at night. They stay in hotels where they can normally take girls, unless they are traveling with their spouse or co-workers. Visitors will typically spend more money that a resident – after all, when is the next time they will be in Beijing? So many factors affect the price that you will pay that I am hesitant to even generalize prices. Factors include venue, nationality, age, perceived beauty, amount of time “in the business”, time of day, day of the week, and even the day of the month (is rent due soon?). I have known many young, good looking guys who think they should get a discount simply because the girl should want to go with them anyway. Experience has shown that this attitude will typically cause the girl to charge you more, or give you worse services. Generally speaking multiple visits to the same girl will almost always improve the experience, but not always. If you are a resident and setup a “regular” visit with a girl you can typically negotiate a better rate than if you go with a different girl every time. The key is to simply discuss the situation with the girl. From her standpoint it is always better/safer to go with someone she knows is not crazy then to risk going with a stranger. Holidays Major holidays in China are always a time for crack down in Beijing, so you can expect these times to be slower than others. The major holiday in China is Spring Festival. It’s date is based upon the lunar calendar, but typically in late January or early February. In the weeks prior to Spring Festival the police will begin raiding bars, clubs and KTVs. In addition, most of the working girls will go to their home town for the holiday, so if you are a visitor you will be out of luck during this holiday. Other major holidays to be avoided include May 1 – International Labor Holiday, and the first week of October, which is the holiday honoring the founding of the People’s Republic of China. The Girls Chinese girls can be found everywhere; you are in China, after all! If a girl speaks good English then she is probably working for herself, i.e. free-lance. Girls in Saunas, BBS, and Streetwalkers may be girls from the countryside who have been brought to the city under the assumption they would be working a straight job, only to be thrust into this business. Most are simply trying to earn money in the “Big City” to send back home to their family. Some get caught up in the life style, and are just looking to make a quick buck. Just like any job, there are many different girls enter this business for many different reasons. You can get a young (18 years old) Chinese girl from the countryside, who speaks little if any English, for a short time for around 300 RMB. A girl in her early 20s that speaks decent English will probably ask for 1000 RMB for short time, but will probably go for 600 RMB. Chinese girls will typically ask to be paid up-front. I recommend you offer to pay half up front, and half after the fact. Otherwise the girl has no motivation to provide a good experience. I find Chinese girls to be more mechanical, approaching their job with a professional attitude, but that is just my opinion. Most Mongolian girls are free lance, but some were deceived into entering the business with the promise of a good job in Beijing. Price will range from 600 RMB for short time, up to 1500 RMB for all night. Most Mongolian girls do not expect to be paid until after the act, so if one asks to be paid up front I would be a little suspicious. In my experience the Mongolian girls provide a more passionate, girlfriend experience (GFE), but experiences vary. Most of the Russian girls are in Beijing on some type of “indentured servitude” arrangement – someone paid for their travel from Russia to Beijing, and they have to work off this cost. They are very firm on price because they must give back a certain amount back to their “handler”. As I recall they charge 1000 RMB for short-time, and 2500 RMB for all night. Many of the Russian girls in Beijing will not go with Westerners – they prefer to take Chinese men who will pay them more, and finish faster. While residents might be interested in the Russian girls, if you are a visitor to China then why go after something you can get find “back home”? You can meet a girl in your hotel room before 11 pm without difficulty. After 11 pm you may have to register the girl at the front desk. If this is the case, than she will need a valid passport – ruling out the Chinese girls. Don’t worry about registering the girl – if anything she will be less likely to try anything funny because the hotel has her name and passport information. For short time most girls will have an apartment. It is typically safe to go back to the girl’s place, but keep your wits about you, and don’t expect anything fancy. Another alternative is to meet a girl at a sauna. They are open 24 hours a day, and most of them have rooms for rent just like a hotel, only by the hour. You would each enter the sauna and then plan to meet “up stairs”. If you are looking for a long time experience, or think you may want to try to convert a short-time to a long time, it is best to take the girl back to your place. Sauna Sauna’s in the west often spark visions of homosexual activities, but in China this is not the case. They are places where you can go and have a relaxing soak in a hot tub, as well as get a massage. Many saunas are thin veils for brothels. Upon entry you surrender your shoes and are given a key to a locker. There are separate locker room and bathing areas for men and women. You go in, strip down, and put your cloths in a locker. You then take a shower and can enjoy the hot tub, sauna room, ect. When you are finished you can go up to the 2nd floor which is typically a mixed sex area where they may have a buffet, and a place where you can get a foot massage. There will probably be a separate area with private rooms where you can get a massage. Some places only offer straight massage, but most will offer extras. The better saunas will perform a “routine” where the girl combines a body-to-body massage, cat bath, ect. Depending on the level of package you purchase. Some will provide “prostrate” massage which will seem strange if you have never had one, but worth the experience. If there is an “oil massage” on the menu this should at least include a “happy ending”. Normally the step from “oil massage” to a “deluxe” package is step – from 300 RMB for an oil massage, to 1200+ RMB for full service. Some saunas may have additional apparatus, like the famed “red ropes”, but I have not found such a place in Beijing. I am sure Sauna’s periodically get raided, but typically the layout of the place is such that you would be able to get yourself together before getting caught in a compromising position. Saunas will typically accept credit cards, and be able to issue official receipts (fa piao) under the title of “food” for those of you who can file an expense report. My best sauna experience was actually in Macau, where they have girls from all over Asia from which to choose, and performance is top notch.
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#2049
09-05-2009, 10:03 PM
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Barbershops (BBS) and Massage Parlors (MP)
Small shops are located all over the city that employee Chinese girls. You can tell the difference between a legitimate barbershop or massage parlor from one the offers extra service by just looking in the front door. If you see several scantily clad girls sitting in the front window, gesturing for you to come in, they do not want to give you a haircut. Typically you will pick a girl and go into a back room that may only be separated from the front of the parlor by a sheet hanging on the door. Privacy is non-existent. The girls will ask for a high price to start off, but you can probably get a hand-job for 100 RMB (or less), and full sex for under 300 RMB. They may also try to up-sell you to multiple girls (one gives oyu the hand job, while another lets you see/feel her boobs), ect. Sometimes the girls will go back with you to your hotel/apartment, but this is rare. I have never felt too safe at such establishments as privacy is limited, but I have never heard of anyone getting busted at a BBS. Hotel Lobby/Bar If you are staying in a 2 or 3 start hotel then there is a good chance that you will receive a call from someone in the hotel “beauty parlor” offering you massage. If you answer the phone with an English “hello” they may simply hang-up, but a “wei?” might get you a proposition. If you do not receive a phone call it might be worth checking out the hotel beauty parlor because if they offer extra service this will be the spot from which they are dispatched. If the hotel has a sauna then it might also be a place where you can find extra services. When traveling outside of Beijing the hotel beauty parlor or sauna may be the only place where you can find any action. Most 4 and 5 star hotels will have a few working girls hanging around the lobby or bar area. These girls will primarily Chinese girls, but there may be the odd Mongolian or Russian thrown into the mix. No matter how “new” these girls claim to be to Beijing, they most likely have been working the same spot for several years. They will know, and be known by, most of the hotel/bar staff. The girl will typically approach you and ask where you are from, how long you will be in town, and where you are staying. The younger/better looking they appear, combined with their ability to speak English, will determine the price. Just like when you shop for anything in Beijing, they will start off with a high price, but most likely come down to a reasonable level. Girls working out of the hotel lobby/bar are typically very low risk because they will be well known to the management, and thus will not want to cause trouble by trying to rip you off. In addition, the girls will be plugged into the local situation, and know when it is not safe to go back to your room. Bar/Club/Disco Just about any bar in Beijing that foreigners frequent will have at least a few working girls. The routine will be the same as outlined in the “Hotel Lobby Bar” section above. Generally speaking it is safe to take a girl back to your hotel or apartment, but sometimes the cops will come through one of the bars and ask to see identification cards. Normally they are just harassing the girls, but there have been cases where they have asked to see the passports of the guys in the bar too. If they do, it is not a big deal. I recommend carrying a copy of your passport, along with a copy of the visa page and the page with the entry stamp. This should satisfy any request. If you leave a bar with a girl you may want to just double check and ensure that you are not being followed. I certainly do not want to make everyone paranoid, but there have been cases of cops following “couples” from a bar back to their hotel and knocking on the door. Streetwalker (SW) Just like everywhere in the world there are girls working the “street”, but in Beijing it is a little different. Rather than seeing the actual girl on the street you will most likely be approached by a “mommy” who will promise beautiful girls. If you agree a car may quickly show up with several girls inside from which you can choose. These girls may be cute, but will most likely be in experienced and will not speak any English. On the plus side, they will be cheap – maybe 300 RMB for short time. WARNING – don’t ever go with / follow someone who promises to take you to a bar with “beautiful girls”. These places are just out to scam you. Karaoke Bar (KTV) There are several big chain KTVs where friends/co-works go to have fun, such as Party World. This is not the type of KTV you want – you want one where they have girls. A KTV is a group experience, so if you are solo it is not advised. Get a Chinese friend/business partner to take you to one. You may want to drop some hints that you would like to see some beautiful girls, otherwise he may think you just want to sing. It is at such events that trust and “guan xi” is truly solidified. When you get to the KTV you will be shown a room with sectional sofas along the back wall, and an audio/visual system along the front wall. The cost of the KTV experience includes the room, drinks/snacks, and tips for the girls. You can typically get the room fee waved if you purchase a minimum amount of drinks. After the room details are settled then a lineup of girls will be brought in to the room. You can choose whichever girl meets your fancy. They may speak a little English, but most will not. No problem, as you did not come to talk anyway – you can always play the dice game with her to get things “warmed up”. The overall experience can range from very tame to very wild. At a tame KTV you would sit with your girl, chat, drink and flirt, but not much more. At a wild KTV the girls will get naked, dance, and rub all over you. I have never heard of any sexual the (HJ, BJ, or FS) taking place at a KTV in Beijing, but in Xian it is routine for this to happen. The girls will sometimes go out with you, but they tend to be a little on the expensive side (1000 RMB for short time), as they also tend to be younger and more attractive the other working girls. If you want a girl who will go home with you it is best to ask the “mommy” who is showing you the girls to help you select a girl, as she will know which ones are more open to the idea. Tips at a KTV in Beijing is typically 300 RMB per girl. It is the same amount if she sits with you for an hour, or all night. I will often select 2 girls from the line up to minimize my chance of picking a “dud”. After 30 minutes or so I will dismiss one of the girls if she is no fun with a minimal tip. You can always ask the mommy to bring back in a lineup of girls to allow you to pick another one, but the “good” girls tend to go fast. By the end of the night the selection is not that great. Most KTVs can provide you with an official receipt (fa piao) for the total cost (including tips) written out for “food”. Again, good for those of you on expense accounts. Shopping There have been several posts from guys who have had luck picking up girls at various shopping centers (China World mall, for one). If you are walking around a mall and a girl makes eye contact with you, and gives you a big smile, then she is probably on the game. Walk over and say hello. There are several SCAMS out there of which you should be aware – the girl may ask you to go to a tea house or bar just to “talk”. If this happens it should immediately set off alarm bells. Her goal will be to order some expensive tea/drink, and then stick you with the bill. When the order is places ALWAYS find out what she has ordered, and how much it will cost. If you have been lucky enough to find a girl that is not a scam artist then you may be in for a little afternoon fun. Afternoon prices should be lower than evening prices, no matter how much the girl quotes you. Classified ads (internet, local English publications) Several of the English language magazines and websites list “massage” services. No mater how the ad is worded, the girl in the picture is not the girl you are going to get. Most of the numbers go back to a single person answering the phone, who will then dispatch a girl that is similar to what you want. When you talk to them on the phone be as specific as possible, without mentioning sexual services. Say you want a tall girl, short girl, slim, big breasts, ect. The price they quote you will be for a straight forward massage, with a possible happy ending. When the girl arrives at your door you have the option of sending her away, but you should at least give her taxi money. If you accept her you get comfortable and she will start the massage. Once she gets you nice and horney she will try to up-sell you to full sex. She will start at a high price, but if you stick to your guns you should be able to keep her to a reasonable level. To my knowledge the Chinese police do not run “sting” operations in Beijing, so you are fairly safe in having a girl from a classified ad meet you. Good luck, and Happy Hunting! Cheers, xAuronx
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#2050
09-05-2009, 11:29 PM
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Will be going to Beijing in a week's time. Can't wait to check out the syt
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____________________________________________ 寧教我負天下人，休教天下人負我 Ever since I reached puberty, my taste for women has not changed.. Their average age is always 20.
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#2051
10-05-2009, 11:04 AM
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Hi
Lily charge around 500-600 per shot for her girl, no taxi fare or other fee. Of course you can tip the girl if she is good. Tried another one from the same chinese website. she is on her own, name QiQi. She advertise for oil massage, so I tried her for a 1.5 hours oil massage and afterward ask for full service. She is young, 20, cute, C cup with some baby fat from Heilongjiang. She has Korean blood in her and she speaks Korean as well as mandarin. if you do not speak mandarin, i do not think she will response to your call. Her number is 13366683286. She charge RMB200 for the oil massage, and I give her altogether 800 for a 2.5 hours service. Probably can negotiate with her but I paid for what i think it worths.
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#2052
11-05-2009, 12:08 AM
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Lily is so "service oriented" that even when I was back in Singapore, I still received her sms about how many new girls that have just arrived.
Well, I had to call her & tell her to remove my hp no. from her sms list. She said that it's all automated (don't know how true it that) But it's safe to try Lily's girls.
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#2054
16-05-2009, 12:16 PM
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#2055
16-05-2009, 02:08 PM
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Re: Beijing Recommendations
Lisa's shop comes four new girls. Two of them are part-time college students. The other two are company clerks, also part-time. They are all slim, pretty girls, having smothy skin and sexy body. Also provide black stockings and high heels service. I have tried all of them, very good. Lisa's contact is 13911070945.
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