Hanging Flowers Joints

[ONEON]

Originally Posted by K9696

Haha..Not consultant, good observer and old timer and regular to DC..

There are some regular faces in the hall... one of them.

[roamersg]

Originally Posted by mansgp

At the end of it, it is how the singers handle their men as well as what extend of "personal sacrifice" they are ready to offer that matters.

ManSGP, appreciate some guidance from keen observer like you. I have friend who is debating returning as singer. I told her based on my observations (which are much more limited than many contributers to this thread) that she needs to improve on several dimensions, in terms of pure performance:
> Somewhat more emotion during singing. It seems those who act abit more like HK singers get flowered more
> Some movement and rhythm during singing, far short of dancing
> More smiling while on-stage, less looking bored, as people like to hang singers that look friendly

Not sure if above makes that much of a difference or not. The other aspect where I did not know how to give guidance was how to deal with customers. Is it generally more flirtatious? Is it more fawning on customers? Tell more jokes or just laugh harder at theirs? I know what works w/ me probably not the same for many others (eg while we all like our egos stroked, if they lay on the BS too much I don't like that)

She knows ultimately the successful singers generally have to make 'personal sacrifice' as they need at least one main supporter. But if one customer won't hang enough, how to handle multiple men?

Any ideas I can pass to her appreciated!

[mansgp]

Originally Posted by mark21

Bro Mansgp, you are the in-house consultant for DC

Nope I'm not. Just a busybody there.

Originally Posted by K9696

Haha..Not consultant, good observer and old timer and regular to DC..

Not as regular as before now but still have some good frens amongst the singers and staff to be updated.

Originally Posted by ONEON

There are some regular faces in the hall... one of them.

Oops! I'm caught.

Originally Posted by roamersg

ManSGP, appreciate some guidance from keen observer like you. I have friend who is debating returning as singer. I told her based on my observations (which are much more limited than many contributers to this thread) that she needs to improve on several dimensions, in terms of pure performance:
> Somewhat more emotion during singing. It seems those who act abit more like HK singers get flowered more
> Some movement and rhythm during singing, far short of dancing
> More smiling while on-stage, less looking bored, as people like to hang singers that look friendly

Not sure if above makes that much of a difference or not. The other aspect where I did not know how to give guidance was how to deal with customers. Is it generally more flirtatious? Is it more fawning on customers? Tell more jokes or just laugh harder at theirs? I know what works w/ me probably not the same for many others (eg while we all like our egos stroked, if they lay on the BS too much I don't like that)

She knows ultimately the successful singers generally have to make 'personal sacrifice' as they need at least one main supporter. But if one customer won't hang enough, how to handle multiple men?

Any ideas I can pass to her appreciated!

Sad to say and to my observation, the quality of the singers' voice or performance do not really equate their income. Whilst some of the top earners can't even croak properly, the better singers / performers are not duly rewarded or appreciated for their performance. End of it, it comes back to how they keep their supporters entertained and coming back for more. There were / are a few who will sleep with anyone provided the price is right while there are some whom I know hardly even go out for meals with their supporters yet they are able to bind them.

I can't advise much as I don't ask them how do they keep their supporters from returning but I see that little acts like occasional touching of the arms of the customers, feeding them fruits, pouring drinks, etc generally do make the customers feel good. I have generalised the customers into 3 main groups; the insecure, the egoistics, and the followers.

There is no SOP on how to tackle the customers but I have advised some of the singers to first profile their customers and find out what tickles them and then feed their wants and needs (except bedding them of course).

I know of customers who like to be assured they are good looking, nevermind that they are not there to bed the singers but just want the assurance and attention (probably married a ugly fierce woman). There are some who can't stop talking about themselves and how good they are (probably impotent that's why needs the ego boost), and all the singers have to do is to listen and agree with these men. There are also some customers who waste no time in making indecent proposal at the very first opportunity.

Sorry I can't really help much except to offer my opnions above.

[K9696]

Sad to say and to my observation, the quality of the singers' voice or performance do not really equate their income. Whilst some of the top earners can't even croak properly, the better singers / performers are not duly rewarded or appreciated for their performance. .[/QUOTE]

Yes. agreed with bro here.

I saw a show in CB, great dancer's cum good singer's, flowers for the night
including from the boss and colleague - only $3500.
(How pathetic,..)

However, one who can't sing and dance, got followers - Those maybe
rich man with tons of $$$ to throw, one night show time - $10,000/

Its a matter of mind game how you entertain your customer! and play
your cards right, you get your carrot even you don't sing well, this is
called Hanging flower Joint...haha

[samsomhengheng]

Originally Posted by mansgp

Sorry I don't fully agree to your statement. In my 2+ years observation there, the prettier and younger ones do not really make good income as compared to the older, less pretty ones. At the end of it, it is how the singers handle their men as well as what extend of "personal sacrifice" they are ready to offer that matters.

My observation of the current batch of top earners, not in order of income, are:

• Xi Xi (pretty enough, very good at pleasing men, able to juggle 3 of the biggest spenders in DC at the same time, currently back to Chongqing for vacation)
• Xiang Xiang (not a natural beauty coz of cosmetic surgeries, only supported by Uncle Sam, returning home to Chongqing today to see her "dying" grandmother)
• Xiao Yi (in her mid 20s and had seen better days, by nature a very nice woman, contract extended till mid 2009)
• Yan Ni (I'm still trying to figure out what so many rich men see in her, contract extended for 2 years and in her early 30s)
• Sammi (very nice gal even though not very pretty, contract ends this Friday, key supporter is a man from a renown ex-banking family)
• Cherry (knows how to cultivate buddy-buddy relationship with men, very outgoing personality, a nice gal who takes care of her colleagues and friends, contract ends next week)

On the other hand, the prettier and younger new-comers over the past 2 months are struggling to survive, many are already contemplating leaving and some had resigned officially. We'll probably see the reduction of performers by 1/3 by March 2009. Anyway, the singer-manageress will be in China in 2 weeks' time to recruit new singers to replace the ones leaving.



The singer you mentioned is Xin'er, who was already a KTV gal before signing up as a DC singer. So she's simply going back to her old trade.

Hi Brother

The encyclopedia on DC! You mentioned that Xixi is very good at pleasing men and she is able to juggle 3 of the biggest spenders in DC, airticket home is paid by customers; I am very interested to know more, Care to PM me with more details on these aspects pl. Thanks very much!!

[mansgp]

Originally Posted by samsomhengheng

Hi Brother

The encyclopedia on DC! You mentioned that Xixi is very good at pleasing men and she is able to juggle 3 of the biggest spenders in DC, airticket home is paid by customers; I am very interested to know more, Care to PM me with more details on these aspects pl. Thanks very much!!

Please do not give me the high hat. I am just sharing what the singers and staff share with me so that brothers here won't be hurt like me (I was tricked before too). Read your PM for details.

[samsomhengheng]

Originally Posted by mansgp

Please do not give me the high hat. I am just sharing what the singers and staff share with me so that brothers here won't be hurt like me (I was tricked before too). Read your PM for details.

Brother

You can accept this acclaimation!! Thanks for the PM, I have replied and would like to know from you thru PM. Thanks a million. BTW, Gong Hei Fatt Choy!!

[mansgp]

Originally Posted by samsomhengheng

Brother

You can accept this acclaimation!! Thanks for the PM, I have replied and would like to know from you thru PM. Thanks a million. BTW, Gong Hei Fatt Choy!!

Happy New Year to you too. Anyway, I must reiterate again that all those info I mentioned in the PM are heard from other people's mouth so may be bias or taken with a pinch of salt. Best I can say is that I've seen her going out till late with many customers. What was done during those few hours is up to your imaginations.

[roamersg]

Thanks Mansgp and k9696 for input. I don't want to steer her wrong, sounds like i made usual mistake of generalising too much from myself. in fact twice at DC i've hung singers who I didn't find pretty but just enjoyed their performances. both were reasonably popular that nite so I assumed others were doing it for that reason. But we all define beauty in different ways

Interesting ManSGP you know some successful singers who never bed customers. For the girls who refuse to compromise there, I'm glad for them. My friend thought every successful singer at her joint did, but that may have just been an assumption, though I suspect it was true b/c their joint was not as successful as DC or HC. Maybe again I just extrapolated from myself--if I hang big I do want to sleep w them!

[saytoomuch]

Just enjoy listening to the singing if it is good.
Don't bother about the money throwing antics of the super rich, normal rich or pretend-rich.
Did it occur to you that even the big-flower hangers are in their own way, losers?
Maybe they were once the cream of society and now the family fortunes have fallen. Like some one said, from ex-banking family. But they still got more than the common man on the street (you and me, lah). So they throw to soothe an ego in tatters.

[otur]

Originally Posted by andrewforest

Yesterday, I went to Peach KTV , left ard 9.30pm, when going out, wah saw many singers outside the entrance, seem that the quality not bad, quantity also increase, maybe brothers who are keen in hanging flower joints can venture on this place.

where is this place bro? maybe can go looksee

Originally Posted by roamersg

Thanks Mansgp and k9696 for input. I don't want to steer her wrong, sounds like i made usual mistake of generalising too much from myself.

My friend thought every successful singer at her joint did, but that may have just been an assumption, Maybe again I just extrapolated from myself--if I hang big I do want to sleep w them!

its common to assume situations based on one's own thinking la. diff claa of joint may need apply diff trick. not sure where yr fren is working. have seen singers who hang themself up n sell in the joint but doing FL for $60 per session. simply playing hard-to-get game in their joint
there is an old saying in chinese which fits most of the man's thinking, not sure about you. here it gose 妻不如妾，妾不如偷，偷不如偷不到 will translate if your pc cant read chinese.
and the last thing you wanna do is to hang big flower for just wanting a bonk! its never worth the price. FL is available everywhere. if a singer can go with you for the flower you hang, what make you think so exclusive of her? any uncle with the same money can also paly her.....

Originally Posted by saytoomuch

Just enjoy listening to the singing if it is good.
Did it occur to you that even the big-flower hangers are in their own way, losers?

bro you are good. the way of thinking make certainly make you feel better, hahaha happy ner year.

[otur]

just happen to drop by the regular joint where my group of bros hang out now a days. supprse to learn its the asst mummy's b-day show. more supprise to see only 2 bros were there. maybe rest are not free.....

[Big Semens]

Originally Posted by saytoomuch

Just enjoy listening to the singing if it is good.
Don't bother about the money throwing antics of the super rich, normal rich or pretend-rich.
Did it occur to you that even the big-flower hangers are in their own way, losers?
Maybe they were once the cream of society and now the family fortunes have fallen. Like some one said, from ex-banking family. But they still got more than the common man on the street (you and me, lah). So they throw to soothe an ego in tatters.

When the singers short of target, they will ask for help

[andrewforest]

Originally Posted by otur

where is this place bro? maybe can go looksee



its common to assume situations based on one's own thinking la. diff claa of joint may need apply diff trick. not sure where yr fren is working. have seen singers who hang themself up n sell in the joint but doing FL for $60 per session. simply playing hard-to-get game in their joint
there is an old saying in chinese which fits most of the man's thinking, not sure about you. here it gose 妻不如妾，妾不如偷，偷不如偷不到 will translate if your pc cant read chinese.
and the last thing you wanna do is to hang big flower for just wanting a bonk! its never worth the price. FL is available everywhere. if a singer can go with you for the flower you hang, what make you think so exclusive of her? any uncle with the same money can also paly her.....



bro you are good. the way of thinking make certainly make you feel better, hahaha happy ner year.

It is very near the chinese Garden, there are only one way to go in the chinese garden. Once u turn right, there are quite obvious neon signbord. Have a good catch.

[andrewforest]

Originally Posted by Big Semens

When the singers short of target, they will ask for help

From some mummy advise, the best is to go toward end of the mth,those who short of target maybe more easy to prey.