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Glad my advice could help somewhat bro - now that I know your situation a bit better, let me make a few further suggestions based on experience.
First - if you do choose to ah... eat outside there are a few rules to observe. First and most important, I think, is that you must be clear about your choice. I know a few people who went to eat outside, got guilty, confessed to their SOs and tanked their relationship. For me, I'm clear that eating out is a way for me to keep my urges in check in a 'safe' way. Certainly better than penning it up, and then catching feels for a colleague or something and then have your life implode on you. Second- Follow Sam's golden rules and don't catch feels. Commercial sex is for a service provider to get your rocks off so your stupid lizard brain doesn't throw away a wonderful partner. Third - don't get caught. Don't go raw, you don't need to deal with pregnancy scares or getting a disease that's hard to explain. Or worse, spreading the disease back home to your GF/wife. Don't leave traces on your phone, don't vanish for unexplained reasons. I'm probably making eating out sound way more noble/justified than it actually is. But as far as I'm concerned, commercial sex is just jerking off with extra steps. |
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Lots of truth here. Also to add. Do you really need to fuck. Or will a CBJ (yes safe sex. As above don't bring anything home) or a massage plus HJ do it for you. Sometimes you may think you need to have sex but then what you may just need is some pampering from a ML with the extra HJ or BJ that comes along with it. |
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Also, is this an option that is open for you? How much potential do you see in yourself? I always preach that a guy should get rich and get ripped, and he will never run out of options, both for sex and marriage. You want a hot virgin wife who will tolerate you fucking around? You gotta be a top tier man. Why would she tolerate that from you if you're just an average dude? Last edited by catlord; 06-05-2022 at 09:11 PM. |
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and i agree bro, im trying to get ripped but financially, just about surviving in the Accounting Big 4 so likely gonna be just an average guy, thats why im weighing these as well so that i dont throw this relationship away and end up with nothing. From your past posts it seems like you are around my age, and it sounds like financially, you are in that top tier already haha. |
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I think it all comes down to, you need to figure out what you want. Just some more points for you to consider. I think many guys underestimate the importance of both love and sex to their happiness. Of course as men we want sex with all kinds of women. We want variety, quantity and quality. Is paid sex going to satisfy you long term though? Have you done it before? I frequented GL many years back, but after a while I grew to hate paid sex and never did it again. I felt like a loser doing it. There's just no replacement for getting a girl to fuck you not because of money but because she wants to. I realized sex for me is not just about the sex but also the ego. Also, I love traveling and fucking exotic races of women. Let me tell you, the time I spent in Brazil when I got laid with 7 hot Brazilian chicks in a week (non paid), I don't care what anyone says I felt such an intense level of happiness and satisfaction. I think many men today underestimate how much getting laid adds to their happiness. But also, think about whether you really want to get married. What do you want out of it? Do you just want a life partner or do you also want to have a family and continue your bloodline? If you want kids, the requirements for your wife increase. I find most guys don't really think about whether their potential wife would be a good mother. Is she young and healthy enough to bear children? Does she have good genes? Is she smart? Does she have good upbringing and values that she can pass on to your kids? These days bro, it's tough to find a woman who possess the qualities of a good mother, plus not a hoe, plus attractive, plus loyal and loves you sincerely. A man who wants a family would wife up such a girl and not let her go. Personally I want it all. I want to have a family with a good woman in the future but also continue to have all the sexual freedom. Therefore I gotta move up the ladder and become a high value man. That's my path based on what I want. You have to decide what you want too and choose your path from there. |
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honestly you've just given me a bit of motivation bro. if i could have a chance and you dont mind, I would definitely wanna know more about your journey - whats your profession and all that you manage to get all those girls in brazil - I always respect people like you for what you have achieved from your efforts. thanks bro! |
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I’m not someone who posts a lot, or anything even. But this thread has got so many honest and impartial answers, I feel inclined to give my two cents.
Apologies if I missed an answer similar to what I’m about to say, but I think it needs to be said that if you were to get married to your current gf sometime in the future, there’s a chance you might find yourself regretting it. It’s a harsh truth and I’m sorry to say it, but it’s a reality that a lot of men out there face, including myself. There’s a lot of factors involved, such as falling out of love after seeing your partner’s flaws, feeling unfulfilled in the rship etc. I’m not saying it will happen to you, just saying that it is a possibility. And let me say that if you’re currently feeling unfulfilled during your rship, generally you shouldn’t expect things to get better once you get married. Your rship isn’t going to magically transform into a fantasy. There’s a saying that one shouldn’t marry ‘potential’. Now I remember my 20s (in my 30s now), and I know for sure it’s the best time of my youth. Had the most amount of sex in hotels, back of my dad’s car, uni etc. Wasnt a playboy but I got into many short rships which involved sex. Not some heartthrob but I guess I’m lucky to have decent looks which definitely helps. Back then I felt guilty because I had a conscience and I thought I was just using these girls and throwing them away after. Some girls would literally give me the “let’s fuck” text and I’d play it off because I thought I just didn’t feel like it. If I could talk to myself in the past I’d probably give me a punch to the balls and tell myself to just enjoy the moment because it won’t last. Now those risky texts are non-existent lol. Don’t underestimate the things you can do during your youth - you’ll look back and wish you could relive all your memories and add even more. Plus, sex is best when you’re young and horny the same way food tastes great when you’re hungry with an appetite. So let’s say you’re feeling unfulfilled at this moment, it’s precious time that you could be enjoying doing something else. However, it could also be precious time that you could be enjoying with your gf. The borders are now open, go on a trip to Bali or anywhere else and see if you can keep doing this with this person for the next 40 years. If you’ve explored all your options, then you probably know the answer at the back of your mind. Your heart might lie to you, but your brain won’t. I think the brothers here have listed the many possible outcomes of your future and only you would know your path from here on. Ask yourself what kind of person are you? If you chose a certain path would you know what to do next? Eg if you broke up would you be brave enough to find another relationship and find what you’re missing? Or are you actually just overthinking and taking your rship for granted? You have the gift of time, touch wood, and you have plenty of time to find out assuming you’re not being pressured to marry. Don’t be affected by male stereotypes or the negative things people say about men wanting to “comb the fields” because ultimately it is your life to live, not others. And don’t bother about dick size. Breasts come in different shapes and sizes too and like a brother has said, it’s more about stroking your ego. When it’s stroked, you’ll feel as if your D is 10 inches long and wide. Basically now I secretly find an FL once every few mths just to keep myself in check and de-stress. For me, having an affair is just too risky bcos my I’m pretty involved in my marriage. A risky text could pop up at the wrong moment when your wife/gf is nearby. Plus, you might find yourself boxed in your age group. A lot of women my age are already taken up and I could never see myself having a rship with the current Gen Zs because when it comes to women I have a type, like the Kardashians lol. Plus I’m not even sure how I could reach out to them. Totally out of touch with their culture. Maybe try to do something different inconspicuously. See if you enjoy it, though let me re-emphasise that finding FLs or one night stands is NOT the end goal. These are just short term orgasm events no matter how long you last in bed. If you go down this path you could just end up feeling lonely. What you probably want is the best rship with a woman you can get. One which at the end of the day you can say, you made the best decision you could. I know it’s abit impossible because no one could know which path is the best, but at least aim for one with no regrets. Cheers and good luck, P.S sorry for the long answer and paisey if it didn’t help. |
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Thanks bro, I really appreciate such elaborate replies from you and all the other guys above. I was expecting to be mocked as indecisive but I am really grateful that everyone like you said has really provided a lot of valuable and impartial input. Basically like what you said, if things aren't going well now, its not gonna get better after marriage, which is why I have been trying to evaluate if the rs genuinely isn't fufilling, or just that I haven't been feeling the mood due to stress. Indeed, after all the advice other bros have provided, I decided Im gonna try ways to spice up the relationship (overseas trips etc.) and see if things do get better. Once again, I really appreciate bros like yourself that have taken time to type out the detailed replies; ranging from around my age to the uncle age, each of you has provided experience and perspectives that I didnt think of before - I wish theres an opportunities to get to know you guys better. But I am quite surprised about the number of married guys that like yourself, seek FLs as a quick solution once in a while - i always thought this only occurs to guys who are on the way to divorce that kind haha. Do you go for these because of lack of sex life with your wife? Or just to try sth new once in a while? I can foresee myself doing this, of course like you say keeping in mind that it is only a temporary relief. |
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Lemme also point out another problem for you. You can't know whether you'd like something if you haven't tried it. You said you haven't tried fucking around, so how do you know whether you'd like it? What have you experienced actually? Have you ever paid for sex? Have you tried getting sex from girls in sg or overseas? Getting sex doesn't just involve you putting your dick in, there's a whole process involved in it. It takes a lot of effort. Do you enjoy the process and the player lifestyle? You want to travel and bang girls overseas. Many pussy paradises are places where they don't speak English. Are you prepared to learn Spanish/Portuguese/Russian? You said you want threesomes and swings, have you ever really thought of that? Do you want to see your gf get fucked by another dick right in front of you? It's good to ask for people's experiences, but each man is different, until you experience it yourself you won't know whether this lifestyle is for you. Now as for family, that's not something you can try and back out of if you find you don't like it. Once you marry the girl and make her pregnant, even if you don't like it you're stuck with it. That's why I always tend to advise young men to try things out in their youth and delay marriage. You can always settle down later on. Men don't have biological time clocks like women. But once you settle down you can't play anymore. A marriage where you can openly fuck around is not an option to most men. I faced a similar crossroad as you when I was in my 20s. And for me the answer was clear as day. I ain't settling down till I've experienced all the debauchery I want to do. I had self confidence that I could improve my level as a man and I'd be able to get what I want. Plus the decision was made easier when I honestly evaluated the serious gf I was with at that time. I realized even though I loved her and we had a good rs, she wouldn't be a good mother for my kids due to her personal deficiencies. Even if I were to choose the path of family, I'd have to find another girl eventually. Be honest with yourself and evaluate your gf. Is she such a gem? It's not just about love or whether you're happy when you're with her. Will she make a good mother and a good wife? Think of the qualities I mentioned in my last post. Last edited by catlord; 08-05-2022 at 01:22 AM. |
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For me, the sex life is so-so. But the underlying reason is that I’ve had so many arguments and disagreements with my wife throughout our marriage that I’ve lost the mood to have sex with her. Plus I remember the sex life with some of my exes were wayyy better. So I definitely feel the drop in quality. I don’t know if you’ve heard, but there’s a running joke that married couples don’t ever have sex. There’s some truth in that. During my bachelor days, I never felt the urge to try new positions or races because I was very satisfied with the sex life with my gf. So I’d think that if I was currently having great sex with my wife and we argued a lot less, I probably wouldn’t feel the urge to try sumth different. I probably wouldn’t even step into this forum haha. Having said that, ever since I joined here, I’ve managed to explore my fantasies such as having threesomes with russians and trying other races. So I guess finding FLs allows me to come home and feel happy enough to tolerate my wife’s shenanigans. And I definitely know alot of men out there who do the same just to maintain the family structure. It’s a compromise to avoid messy divorces. Plus alot of us still love our wives but are just unsatisfied with the sex and their shortcomings. Last edited by Booboo7891; 08-05-2022 at 03:55 AM. |
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I'm one of the few maybe who I think has the best of all worlds.
A family, 3 kids who are top achievers. I'm a single income family, so I'm mostly focus on earning a salary to support my kids. I settled most of my wife and my retirement already and I'm 46 this year. Most of the girls I've had, about 99% of them are foreigners. Also almost all are GFs in a way. Cuz I started out single income, no money for FL. So most times, I try to compensate by being a BF to these girls. In SG, cuz I a bit lazy, so now most of my girls are maids. I've a few sg girls, but sg girls a lot of work, need to wine and dine then etc and I've no time. And all my maids come to my house to do part time cleaning. I fuck them outside and at home, when we are alone. Some times, I fuck one maid at 4am, then fuck one at my home, then go out and fuck one in the afternoon, then at night fuck the one that can come out late. Most countries, I've a girl or girls. Sometimes I visit them, when I'm there for work. Some of them, will fly to SG to meet me. So, some of my thoughts about this: 1. Since you have decided to eat outside, just got ahead and do it. If not, this may still destroy all your relationships when you constantly feel sexually frustrated. It will eat into you. 2. For me, the way to fuck until the fucking becomes like a normal activity in life so that I don't over react and people know my secret life, is that I fucked until I feel sian about fucking so many and having to manage my time so tightly. So, there came a point I felt like, ok I had enough. Then, when see girls, I actually now, no reaction because I feel, anytime I want, I can get more. 3. Money is important. Yes, I eat free, but travelling, even just a simple meal with all of them, going to meet them, I own a car, and also some of the girls overseas that I like to have long term relationships, they don't ask but during COVID, I give them some money. The maids, they go back home, I give them some money to buy things for their kids. All these small expenses will add up. 4. You need to plan ahead a lot if you wish to have that so called perfect family and also your girls. Like my work, I'm upper management, but at night I drive Grab. Why I drive Grab? So that I can think about my work, plan how to meet who, and sometimes at night, my girls can meet I go out and meet them for a long night of sex. Some can meet at 4am, etc etc. Then come home totally shagged but sextisfied. But all my tracks are covered. 5. Some bros say you've to look decent. That's right but even more important, if you want the girls to RTF you, your sex skills need to improve. Because if you are going to marry, you won't have time to constantly prospect for new FL or girls. So, you need to attract some of the good ones back with your constant romantic text and also good sex. 6. Have fun, don't regret and feel guilty. If not, it will be better to just stick to your gf or wife. It will eat you inside out, especially if you feel guilty. 7. Never boast about your ECA, always tell people you're boring. Always disqualify, like if girls approach you, tell them you're fat, short, ugly and poor. See if they still want you. Tell them, you're married, see if they still want you. Then those who really stay with you, they'll be loyal and quiet. 8. Never tell the girls that you've other girls. I only tell maybe 1 out of the many because this Indonesian girl and I wanted to have a baby together. So, I came clean with her and she still love me after that. The rest, they all think they are the only one. Even all my maids think they're the only one. Hope that helps to give you some perspective. |
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For me, I cheong for 20+ years. Now I cut down a lot and saved a lot of money. You imagine you save $400 a month for 22 years and you compound this, it becomes $200,000-300,000. Can buy a Mercedes’ Benz or BMW. Now I only fancy ML who can do (1) Power massage and (2) Juagen (cock teasing). Over time I convert these ladies into my play toy. I slowly and slowly unlocked their desired from a innocent lady into a slut. And this way can save money because eventually they will allow you to FJ yet pay massage price
Innocent ML slowly become slut. Also quite fun if you really want to creampie into them. The more difficult to unlock, safer
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Wow, having managed to try russians - how was it? are the angmohs a lot better than asians? haha |
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