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I started on cruise ship, Lesiure World n Star Aquarious back in late 1980s. I was even on the ship when it hit a barge in Christmas eve. I stopped visiting the casinos in 2006. Bet then I est. contributed more than $1m to the casinos. The most I won on a single weekend was $86K, the biggest lost was $127K. the lost was exactly a week after I made the biggest win. BTW, I am not a big time roller, even though sometimes, I hit $1-2m total, given a platinum card, dine for free..I usually limit bet $10k-$20K.

I have read many books and listened to many theories on how to beat the odds on bacaraat, but none of it works, because, the house has all the safeguards in place to ensure your theories will not work against them. I have even worn my fav shirt, red underwears, abstain from sex, brought good luck charms, put small 7 legged frogs on the table, even throw sugar below the table to feed the ho hieah tees....etc, but you know the outcome
hahah bro, if those books and and theories can work, the author won't be disclosing liao. They will be paid fat fat by the casinos not to disclose. Anyway baccarat is shuffled by automatic shuffler, there goes the end of card-counters.

However, there is always on the brighter side. There is no single strategy that works by itself. It's a combination of strategies plus effective money management that can enable you to win on the tables. This is one key to unlock the casino. Different people have different strategies, so experiment it out to suit yourself.
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I don't really think making use of the 24 hrs day levy caused people to lose badly.
On the flipside, there are also people recoup or win money at the very last hour before their day levy expired.
Yes, it's either way. Staying lose to win, staying win to lose, staying win to win more, or staying lose to lose more will be the usual 4 outcome scenario.

I always believe playing till the last hour of the expiry levy is very stressful. It's like playing against time, you can't make sound and firm decisions.
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hahah bro, if those books and and theories can work, the author won't be disclosing liao. They will be paid fat fat by the casinos not to disclose. Anyway baccarat is shuffled by automatic shuffler, there goes the end of card-counters.

However, there is always on the brighter side. There is no single strategy that works by itself. It's a combination of strategies plus effective money management that can enable you to win on the tables. This is one key to unlock the casino. Different people have different strategies, so experiment it out to suit yourself.
I am also thinking whether to buy an automatic shuffler to try out as I already have a baccarat manual shoe. I have read several casino gambling books too but non of their systems or methods work except to understand their experience & mindset in casino gambling I would read more on money management & avoid spending too much time inside casinos.
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I am also thinking whether to buy an automatic shuffler to try out as I already have a baccarat manual shoe. I have read several casino gambling books too but non of their systems or methods work except to understand their experience & mindset in casino gambling I would read more on money management & avoid spending too much time inside casinos.
Bro, very expensive wor.

MBS uses this one2six multi-deck continuous shuffler.

Mini Baccarat tables uses another machine similar to MD2 multi-deck batch shuffler’s card recognition system.

When the cards are shuffled, all are covered up.

If you want to find those cheap cheap ones, get those auto shuffler from Amazon.com.
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Bro, very expensive wor.

MBS uses this one2six multi-deck continuous shuffler.

Mini Baccarat tables uses another machine similar to MD2 multi-deck batch shuffler’s card recognition system.

When the cards are shuffled, all are covered up.

If you want to find those cheap cheap ones, get those auto shuffler from Amazon.com.
Appreciate if you could share the details of the prices for the above 2 shuffler machines.
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hahah bro, if those books and and theories can work, the author won't be disclosing liao. They will be paid fat fat by the casinos not to disclose. Anyway baccarat is shuffled by automatic shuffler, there goes the end of card-counters.

However, there is always on the brighter side. There is no single strategy that works by itself. It's a combination of strategies plus effective money management that can enable you to win on the tables. This is one key to unlock the casino. Different people have different strategies, so experiment it out to suit yourself.
Schenker bro, I agree with u, but when you are hot into gambling, like many, I am game to try all sorts of things. I know card counting and doubling up your bets r the 2 most effective ways to beat the odds. But to counter that, the casino has auto schufflers and a bet limit at each table to prevent overbetting.

Everyone believes their own strategy works, I also have my own, but so far they have not worked. After I stopped going to cruise ships a few years back, I only step into RWS once. That was before the Universal park opened. I brought along $3K. The strategy was simple, instead of spending longer hrs soaking in there, break it into bets of $500. If I double my capital, I'll leave. I thought it will work, but I lost it all in less than 1hr.

With that, I decided I should stay away for good at least until now...that maybe is a best strategy.. For those who have better strategies, good luck to you and.......... heng heng
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I am also thinking whether to buy an automatic shuffler to try out as I already have a baccarat manual shoe. I have read several casino gambling books too but non of their systems or methods work except to understand their experience & mindset in casino gambling I would read more on money management & avoid spending too much time inside casinos.
Bro, you can't be serious right? IMHO, auto or manual, does not make much of a diff, as long as the cards are well mixed, the output is random. Luck and timing, plays a big role in a more predictable shoe...I guess if you have better control over your emotions, it may work for you. From experience, long hrs is bad....
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Appreciate if you could share the details of the prices for the above 2 shuffler machines.
Roughly estimation by myself is abt USD 10k+. But you may email to productinfo@shufflemaster for more information.
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Roughly estimation is abt USD 10k+. But you may email to shufflemaster for more information.
Thanks I am not looking this type of high-tech shuffle machine. I buying 1 it is more of manual shuffle machine that cost a lot less.

I am also looking to buy a Baccarat layout (cloth) but I prefer light blue instead of the traditional green surface
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Thanks I am not looking this type of high-tech shuffle machine. I buying 1 it is more of manual shuffle machine that cost a lot less.

I am also looking to buy a Baccarat layout (cloth) but I prefer light blue instead of the traditional green surface
That's why I mentioned to you earlier, get those auto shuffler from Amazon.com.
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That's why I mentioned to you earlier, get those auto shuffler from Amazon.com.
I saw 1 that cost USD 560 these price is reasonable except it don't look so nice & professional like those used in MBS
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Schenker bro, I agree with u, but when you are hot into gambling, like many, I am game to try all sorts of things. I know card counting and doubling up your bets r the 2 most effective ways to beat the odds. But to counter that, the casino has auto schufflers and a bet limit at each table to prevent overbetting.

Everyone believes their own strategy works, I also have my own, but so far they have not worked. After I stopped going to cruise ships a few years back, I only step into RWS once. That was before the Universal park opened. I brought along $3K. The strategy was simple, instead of spending longer hrs soaking in there, break it into bets of $500. If I double my capital, I'll leave. I thought it will work, but I lost it all in less than 1hr.
Bro RoverX, The casino is 24/7, the jackpot machines never stop, unless is under some maintenance or tweaking process. From your betting style, if your bankroll is 3k, betting $500 per unit is quite risky. It hits you without you even notice. Try to break into smaller units, win you keep betting per unit or 2 units, if lose, keep it within a losing range you have set earlier. If you really feel the heat, it will be better to stop-loss and plan for an exit route.

Please remember this, Winners who walked out of casinos and called it a day (winners inside casino not counted hor) are not because they are highly skilled, but because they are very disciplined.

I believe you have ever read some wanbao/sin ming news that those who strike group 1/2 toto or few hundred ks from 4d lose all back, plus much more from thru' increased 4d bets, casinos or horse betting.

If you can control and contain your emotion and play with discipline, learn not to lose or lose minimally from using bankroll management, I don't see why you can lose all your bankroll .
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Bro, you can't be serious right? IMHO, auto or manual, does not make much of a diff, as long as the cards are well mixed, the output is random. Luck and timing, plays a big role in a more predictable shoe...I guess if you have better control over your emotions, it may work for you. From experience, long hrs is bad....
Now I am not entering into casinos for a while. So I am trying to study the baccarat results & trend as to see how casinos pre-determined all these. I already experience my 1st manual shoe using 8 decks of cards. Of course using manual shuffler machine.

Having a cool beer at home and 1st shoe results turn out to be...

Banker 34
Player 46
Tie 2

Total hands: 82

Banker win on 6 points = 2 times.

First I recorded the results on a piece of square-grid paper later I input into excel for a colour print out.
To study trend & my target is to complete 100 shoe then to compare against the shoe that I played in real casinos.
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[QUOTE=Schenker;5338298]Bro RoverX, The casino is 24/7, the jackpot machines never stop, unless is under some maintenance or tweaking process. From your betting style, if your bankroll is 3k, betting $500 per unit is quite risky. It hits you without you even notice. Try to break into smaller units, win you keep betting per unit or 2 units, if lose, keep it within a losing range you have set earlier. If you really feel the heat, it will be better to stop-loss and plan for an exit route.

Schenker bro, thanks for advice...most of what you mentioned, I am well aware,....but the mind is weak. I have a gambling buddy who after gambling with me for a period of time, told me that if I don't cool down and stop, I will likely lose everything in the end...

I think there are many factors that cause ppl to lose their head in a casino. I have a buddy who gambles together with his wife. He is very disciplined, but his wife is not...she is a "soaker"..bet on every hand, no matter what the pattern is...you should know the end result. My fren sees her loss, cant tahan, bet bigger to recover....in the end profit gone, capital also gone. If the wife is not there, he is ok, sometimes make, even lost also limited. He knows the problem, but chasing losses are a common senerio in the casino.

I guess it is in our nature that when we are down, very buay song...when we are up, we think today nothing can go wrong... I know discipline and self control is so impt in the casino, but just like everything, some are good at it, some are not...I admit I am not, so best to stay away if I can..
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Now I am not entering into casinos for a while. So I am trying to study the baccarat results & trend as to see how casinos pre-determined all these. I already experience my 1st manual shoe using 8 decks of cards. Of course using manual shuffler machine.

Having a cool beer at home and 1st shoe results turn out to be...

Banker 34
Player 46
Tie 2

Total hands: 82

Banker win on 6 points = 2 times.

First I recorded the results on a piece of square-grid paper later I input into excel for a colour print out.
To study trend & my target is to complete 100 shoe then to compare against the shoe that I played in real casinos.
Bro, I admire your determination in trying to find the perfect outcome in a random world....If you should succeed...someone ought to award you a Phd...haha...

Keep it up...publish your data, I am interested......good luck
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