Infos on Chiang Mai

[BruceChan]

Planning to go songkran, for those that have been there during that period or bros staying in chiang mai, how bad is the air during songkran for the last couple of years? Heard that the smog is pretty unbearable leading up to songkran, but don't know if during the festival the smog will clear.

I assume not as wild as Bangkok in terms of playing but there are quite a few universities so no shortage of cute girls right?

[Happyman007]

Originally Posted by BruceChan

Planning to go songkran, for those that have been there during that period or bros staying in chiang mai, how bad is the air during songkran for the last couple of years? Heard that the smog is pretty unbearable leading up to songkran, but don't know if during the festival the smog will clear.

I assume not as wild as Bangkok in terms of playing but there are quite a few universities so no shortage of cute girls right?

Smog usually around Mar and will clear by Songkran, recently more strict on buring so expecting to be better.......

CM is the main Northern city of Thailand so most of the nearby cites SYT will be here for universities instead of going to bkk, sure no shortage of cute girls but not sure if you shortage of money or look bo? (If you short of money or look but can speak good thai & no shortage of time to stay here, still got some chance to sian lah)

[Marz]

Who will be in Chiang Mai on 20th Dec for some beers?

[Marz]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Bus...-crowds-dry-up

Thailand confronts prospect of prolonged decline in mainland tourists

APORNRATH PHOONPHONGPHIPHAT, Nikkei staff writer
November 20, 2018 21:30 JST

BANGKOK -- Thailand's hospitality industry faces a shakeout as it confronts the prospect of a long decline in Chinese tourists.

Official data published this week revealed that the number of Chinese tourists fell 8.8% in the third quarter, contributing to lower than expected economic growth in the period. Chinese tourists make up about a third of all visitors to Thailand. But they have been put off by a series of incidents, including a deadly ferry accident that left 46 dead.

As a result, a growing number of small hotels and hostels in the city of Chiang Mai, one of the most popular destinations in Thailand, are seeking buyers. Property agents say they are dealing with an unusually high level of sales as the downturn hits smaller businesses hardest.

More than 10 websites for Chiang Mai properties are posting hotels for sale. Many boutique hotels that closed recently are offered at prices ranging from over 50 million baht ($1.52 million) down to even a few million baht.

"Owners launched small hotels a few years ago, expecting to tap into a tourism boom," a local property agent who requested anonymity told the Nikkei Asian Review. "But this year, many of them have been hit hard by falling tourist arrivals, particularly Chinese visitors, before they broke even. Hotel owners are forced to go out of business because they cannot absorb the impact from the falling number of bookings."

Another agent told Nikkei: "We have more than 10 resort properties on sale on our website, and there are more handled by rival websites. I have been in this business for seven years, and this has never happened."

The sharp decline in Chinese visitors followed the capsizing of a passenger ferry at the famous beach town of Phuket in July. Most of those killed were Chinese tourists.

Then came a viral video showing a Thai security guard slapping a Chinese tourist in the face at the Bangkok area's Don Mueang International Airport on Sept. 27.

Tourism and related industries generate about 20% to 30% of Thailand's gross domestic product. The number of Chinese visitors fell 0.9% in July and plunged 11% during August and 15% in September, slashing revenue for tourism-related companies.

"Hotels and restaurants in famous destinations including Phuket and Chiang Mai have suffered declines as the number of chartered flights from China has halved [on the year] since July," said Ittirit Kinglake, president of the Tourism Council of Thailand.

Restaurants that rely on group tours from China have been hit particularly hard, said Chavarit Chonjaron, president of the Chiang Mai Restaurant Club.

Airlines have also suffered. National carrier Thai Airways logged a third-quarter net loss twice as big as the one a year earlier. CEO Sumeth Damrongchaitham blamed the 3.7 billion baht loss largely on a decline in Chinese passengers and the major storms that hit Japan and Hong Kong, cutting flights to those lucrative routes.

Asia Aviation, the operator of budget carrier Thai AirAsia, reported a net loss of 358 million baht for the three months ended Sept. 30, compared with a profit of 260 million baht in the year-ago period.

"We can't stand still" while tourism worsens, "so we try to do something in order to bring [Chinese visitors] back," said Chavarit. His club and the provincial government are planning a food festival and other special events to attract Chinese and other foreign tourists.

The Tourism Authority of Thailand has not revised this year's targets of 38 million arrivals and 3 trillion baht in revenue, despite the drop from China.

The Thai cabinet last week approved waiving a 2,000-baht visa fee paid on arrival by travelers from 21 places, including mainland China, Taiwan, India and Saudi Arabia. The fee will be waived during December and January.

"The measure has helped increase the number of Chinese tourists gradually in Phuket, and we hope that it will rise further," said Bhummikitti Ruktaengam, president of the Phuket Tourist Association. Chartered flights and group tours from China rose by 10% to 20% in early November, the president said.

But most operators of tourism businesses say the visa discount is unlikely to completely restore the number of Chinese arrivals by the end of this year, which is normally the high season for the industry.

"It is better than doing nothing, though the measure cannot help us 100%," Chavarit said.

The tourism agency aims to rely less on Chinese visitors, attracting more travelers from elsewhere to ensure sustainable long-term growth.

"We will focus more on the quality, not on quantity" of tourism, agency head Yuthasak Supasorn said. The authority will seek more tourists from Europe, Southeast Asia and India, which offer strong spending power.

Chinese tourists spend an average of 50,000 baht, the authority said, while those from India and Europe spend 60,000 to 70,000 baht.

While Chinese tourists declined by 15% in September, Thailand enjoyed increases from elsewhere, such as 5.5% from India, 40.1% from Malaysia, 11.8% from Vietnam and 9.5% from Laos.

That has encouraged the tourism authority and related agencies to make more presentations in Europe and India to boost visitors. Bhummikitti said he will team with the Phuket provincial government to hold such shows in England and Germany in March.

"We also will be holding a Thai tourism roadshow in New Delhi during Jan. 16 to 18, aiming to promote Thai tourist attractions among Indians," he said.

[anikisan]

The world now catches a cold when China sneezes. The time has come?

[fallen11]

Its not the incidents on chinese tourists in thailand that caused the fall in chinese tourist numbers. Main culprit as always, is the chinese stock market.
Just wait for the chinese stock market to boom again, u'll see them flocking to everywhere and throwing money more than throwing rubbish.

Indian tourists spend more than chinese tourists? I seriously doubt it. They go agogo / massage go in see for free then come out. They're the worst spenders.
Only willing to pay for ladyboys.

[Oscar1325]

Will be in Chiang Mai until Saturday. Just wanna check the experts if there are any good local food that is not tourist infested? Thanks!

[le113ru]

Saw Aloha Massage on Wechat during recent trip. Decided to try out their juagen massage. Turn out not really authentic juagen but more like fondling.
Anyway, still good for a massage and release. Probably it’s like SG P massage but better and cheaper 1100b/70min. Or you can have 4 hands at 2200/90min but not sure 1 or 2 release.

Name: Nina(No. 16)
Age: mid 20s
Massage: 7/10
Overall: 8/10
Manage to autoroam. Depends on chemistry.

[Happyman007]

"Hello bro, may i know where is this rad located? Thinking of going there. Also, แรด must be able to speak thai ah? I thinking of going there alone to chill. "



Just saw this in my PM.....reason why I don't like to reply PM is because....

1. I'm not your private secretary unless you PM to ask for my bank detail and transfer USD 1k to my account so I can give u a 1 days paid tour with my E350 with commission and advertisement fee pay to Ah Sam if business confirm.

2. Some or most info from PM also interested by other people, so why i need to reply each person and not post in forum so others can share info also??

Anyway this PM question you can actually read a few pages back with me and another bro sharing the detail location and also with Ah Goo map location.

If you're too lazy to check or so get use to having secretary to check for you, please transfer usd 1k daily to my account and I will arrange personal driver to bring you around in CM.

[Nitwitty]

Sorry Happyman, we really need this kind of 1k meh? Later say very nice give your kids buy toys, but behind back say otherwise.... We play ourselves can already la, difficult to find people of the same league as us... some also PM me ask for humsup info, I also ask them go find Ah Goo.....

[Doomas]

Sekali you get newbies asking you for Ah Goo's contact hehe

Originally Posted by Nitwitty

Sorry
Happyman, we really need this kind of 1k meh? Later say very nice give your kids buy toys, but behind back say otherwise.... We play ourselves can already la, difficult to find people of the same league as us... some also PM me ask for humsup info, I also ask them go find Ah Goo.....

[Happyman007]

Originally Posted by Nitwitty

we really need this kind of 1k meh?

I don't need, but I will give them the bank account of Charity instead. If they donate USD 1k a day I personally pick them from airport with E350 and arrange full day 8 hours guided tour for them.

So far ALL asking for info cannot afford to pay leh, only want free info or pay with 1 kopi or 1st beer.....too cheap I don't entertain lah.

[Oneshotonekill]

Hi. Can recommend with good Kansai massage. Thanks...

[Happyman007]

Originally Posted by Oneshotonekill

Hi. Can recommend with good Kansai massage. Thanks...

Join in 2013 with 24 post all asking for info.......Join as paid membership first before asking for free info again ok.

[Happyman007]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

i take it you have had your fill of these types....greedy lazy fckers

ya had enough of these lazy newbie or old newbie.......keep asking question and expecting people to spoon feed them, some PM to ask like I'm their private secretary and some will to pay for 1 kopi or 1 beer and expect you to bring them around and share their cost to be carrot head.

By the way I'm going back SG this year end, anyone willing to bring me around and show me where to find Uni student in sg? 1st beer on me and after that we spilt cost accordingly ok bo?

I also plan to meet my wife friends in sg, anyone interested to join and spilt bill together for their hotel, food & drinks etc? No sure free fuck but depend on your skill to sian them ok?