Does the so call " true love " still exist???

[Deztruct]

Originally Posted by jinrenhe

This "invisible man syndrome" (a term i classified for the phenomenon of people rarely ever contacting me, no matter how close we may hv been) has been characterizing every relationships i tried to build in the past 4 years...which makes me ponder if i am an intrinsically low-worth person... so unworthy of any concern from people around me?

bro..u studyin in smu lar?

on a more serious note..if u feel tat pple are treatin u as a invisible man then why bother to still +++ to them or wat? if the ger u like wun ack ur presence then mayb its time to move on..sometimes when the ger feel tat she is losin ur concern..she will try harder to get ur attention

its beta to feel lonely when u alone than to feel lonely when u in a crowd

[Deztruct]

Originally Posted by jinrenhe

This "invisible man syndrome" (a term i classified for the phenomenon of people rarely ever contacting me, no matter how close we may hv been) has been characterizing every relationships i tried to build in the past 4 years...which makes me ponder if i am an intrinsically low-worth person... so unworthy of any concern from people around me?

bro..u studyin in smu lar?

on a more serious note..if u feel tat pple are treatin u as a invisible man then why bother to still +++ to them or wat? if the ger u like wun ack ur presence then mayb its time to move on..sometimes when the ger feel tat she is losin ur concern..she will try harder to get ur attention

its beta to feel lonely when u alone than to feel lonely when u in a crowd

[Deztruct]

[QUOTE=playboy82;1823399]I mean, when fate came knocking on their doors, but most of then jus turn it down, with excuses like, busy with work, dun feel like going out, going out with friends... blah blah blah, which is all bull shit to me, If i, who are so busy at work can still squeeze some time to ask u out, i wonder how busy can the gals be.

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to be fair here..they are juz tryin to reject u subtly..i mean they hv the rite to make a choice also..doesnt mean u interested in them then they hv to like u also..if u force things..in the long run..both will not be happy also

[playboy82]

[QUOTE=Deztruct;1824031][QUOTE=playboy82;1823399]I mean, when fate came knocking on their doors, but most of then jus turn it down, with excuses like, busy with work, dun feel like going out, going out with friends... blah blah blah, which is all bull shit to me, If i, who are so busy at work can still squeeze some time to ask u out, i wonder how busy can the gals be.

to be fair here..they are juz tryin to reject u subtly..i mean they hv the rite to make a choice also..doesnt mean u interested in them then they hv to like u also..if u force things..in the long run..both will not be happy also

ya..... but fate hardly come, shouldn't they pay more attention to it?
Like i say , No $$ , No Fate, If i hav $$, wat ever shit fate i also can get, even seeing the gal in a shopping centre and approach her can also consider fate if i have $$.

[surfer888]

Originally Posted by playboy82

Maybe there are gals who are good and not money minded, but jus tat i am not destined to meet or get to know.

It's not being money-faced. It's being realistic and thinking about the future family. A relationship evolves to a marriage which evolves to a family with children. Housing, good food, kid's education, etc all costs money.

If we think from another angle... would anyone let their daughters marry a man she loves but has no money? Yes, he can love her alot but with what?... His dick?

It's not about money buying love. It's more about money buying a life, an existence that is not about hardship.

[surfer888]

Originally Posted by jinrenhe

This "invisible man syndrome" (a term i classified for the phenomenon of people rarely ever contacting me, no matter how close we may hv been)

I call that "insurance agent" syndrome. My friends who became insurance agents told me that one good way to lose your "friends" is to tell them you do insurance!

[Lubber]

Hi,this my first comment on this thread. Please no zapping.
Took my time to read through this "True Love" discussion thread.And at times were facinated by some of the knowledgeable comments and replies. So...what is this "True Love"? No one can give a definite meaning to the term as stated by one brother here. Or is it there is too many or in fact countless meaning to it? What ever meaning to it, it is up to you and you only to judge it as you deem fit and not let others judge it for you. Let's get back to the topic.

Some bros stated can't find this "True Love" OR has no fate with it. Like some advices given to by brothers here,improve on yourself and your own image and some other things. Work things out slowly, widen your social circle and so on. But what is the reason why you want to find or have "True Love"? Or maybe deep down inside you just want it as an excuse to cover up this loneliness you felt when you see couples all around you? This too i feel sometimes regrettably. But then again, if this "True Love" has finally stepped in, would you want to only be loved or to give unconditionally? To receive or give, both has it ups and downs. Being loved feels good of course but what if the someone who loved you so much is gone? Giving unconditionally will make you feel happy too because that someone is also happy. But what if that someone decides to leave? You will feel all your efforts are in vain.

Having said the above, are you willing to commit to this "True Love" you found or ever find one? Some might say is easy given the plenty of reasons one can find. But along the way is not so as there are obstacles preventing this "commitment" By commitment I don't mean commit your life into it. But by putting in effort. And by any chance if this "True Love" falls apart, are you able to stand back up OR will you end up drinking late into the night in coffeeshops sulking? This is one pathetic state where no one really wants to end up. But sadly i believed many has been through this time as I myself been through it after my 4 years relationship ended in 2002.

Then I asked myself one day, is "True Love" really what I'm seeking for? Or is it just a cover up for the loneliness created by others around me? ( meaning the loneliness you feel when you see couples so lovey dovey that you actually wanted to have some of the feelings ) Then I came to my own conclusion, seek what I really want, don't just seek for "True Love" Seek what you really want to do, what you want to accomplish, seek for your interests which in turn might really spice up your life and make your life exciting rather than lovey dovey. If the "True Love" you seek did not appear after so long, maybe the right one hasn't turn up yet, or better still she might just be a couple of stops away down the road waiting for you to pick her up.

" For every man and woman, there will always be one potential lover for them " Forgot how the quote goes but is something like this. So fret not, there will always be someone who will really like you, is just a matter of time.

[playboy82]

Originally Posted by Lubber

Hi,this my first comment on this thread. Please no zapping.
Took my time to read through this "True Love" discussion thread.And at times were facinated by some of the knowledgeable comments and replies. So...what is this "True Love"? No one can give a definite meaning to the term as stated by one brother here. Or is it there is too many or in fact countless meaning to it? What ever meaning to it, it is up to you and you only to judge it as you deem fit and not let others judge it for you. Let's get back to the topic.

Some bros stated can't find this "True Love" OR has no fate with it. Like some advices given to by brothers here,improve on yourself and your own image and some other things. Work things out slowly, widen your social circle and so on. But what is the reason why you want to find or have "True Love"? Or maybe deep down inside you just want it as an excuse to cover up this loneliness you felt when you see couples all around you? This too i feel sometimes regrettably. But then again, if this "True Love" has finally stepped in, would you want to only be loved or to give unconditionally? To receive or give, both has it ups and downs. Being loved feels good of course but what if the someone who loved you so much is gone? Giving unconditionally will make you feel happy too because that someone is also happy. But what if that someone decides to leave? You will feel all your efforts are in vain.

Having said the above, are you willing to commit to this "True Love" you found or ever find one? Some might say is easy given the plenty of reasons one can find. But along the way is not so as there are obstacles preventing this "commitment" By commitment I don't mean commit your life into it. But by putting in effort. And by any chance if this "True Love" falls apart, are you able to stand back up OR will you end up drinking late into the night in coffeeshops sulking? This is one pathetic state where no one really wants to end up. But sadly i believed many has been through this time as I myself been through it after my 4 years relationship ended in 2002.

Then I asked myself one day, is "True Love" really what I'm seeking for? Or is it just a cover up for the loneliness created by others around me? ( meaning the loneliness you feel when you see couples so lovey dovey that you actually wanted to have some of the feelings ) Then I came to my own conclusion, seek what I really want, don't just seek for "True Love" Seek what you really want to do, what you want to accomplish, seek for your interests which in turn might really spice up your life and make your life exciting rather than lovey dovey. If the "True Love" you seek did not appear after so long, maybe the right one hasn't turn up yet, or better still she might just be a couple of stops away down the road waiting for you to pick her up.

" For every man and woman, there will always be one potential lover for them " Forgot how the quote goes but is something like this. So fret not, there will always be someone who will really like you, is just a matter of time.

well said, and some just keep trying to find throughout their life and yet found none, ended up with prc or viet bride.... its kind of pathetic...

[jinrenhe]

Originally Posted by Deztruct

bro..u studyin in smu lar?

on a more serious note..if u feel tat pple are treatin u as a invisible man then why bother to still +++ to them or wat? if the ger u like wun ack ur presence then mayb its time to move on..sometimes when the ger feel tat she is losin ur concern..she will try harder to get ur attention

its beta to feel lonely when u alone than to feel lonely when u in a crowd

studyin SIM...

like ur phrase... it's a mentality i adhere to too. sometimes i wonder how much am i willing to give in or compromise my dignity for the sake of seeking company. that's y sometimes i prefer to go shopping or movie alone, rather than repeatedly ask out someone who's nonchalent towards my existence...

[Lubber]

Originally Posted by playboy82

well said, and some just keep trying to find throughout their life and yet found none, ended up with prc or viet bride.... its kind of pathetic...

I don't see it as pathetic, maybe that is what they want, maybe that is the life they seek, who knows? As long as one is happy and satisfied, is good enough be it high end classy life or just a simple life. Although some ended up with regrets when ended up with prc or viet bride ( not against them on this remark ) but regret always comes with a lesson learnt. And from there you improve

[jintulan]

Originally Posted by playboy82
well said, and some just keep trying to find throughout their life and yet found none, ended up with prc or viet bride.... its kind of pathetic...

Originally Posted by Lubber

I don't see it as pathetic ...

agree with Lubber, its not pathetic at all. Whether one find lasting happiness does not depend entirely on the nationality of one's life partner. Our journey in life is full of unknowns, love can ease some burden along the way, although it cannot clear away the obstacles. However, we can only ease someone else's burden by helping to carry some of theirs, not by throwing more of our's onto them. One strange thing about love is that it burns brightly when given to each other. It dies if one side tries to take it from the other. Again, I wish all brothers here find true love.

[surfer888]

Originally Posted by jintulan

One strange thing about love is that it burns brightly when given to each other. It dies if one side tries to take it from the other.

Extremely wise words. I never thought about it this way till I read this. Thinking back, It's very very true.

Too much "love" can suffocate. I have been both suffocator and suffocatee and can see how this works.

[Deztruct]

Originally Posted by playboy82

well said, and some just keep trying to find throughout their life and yet found none, ended up with prc or viet bride.... its kind of pathetic...

but if their true love really are a prc or a viet ger..i dun think its patheic..diff pple hv diff expectations of wat a true love shld b..we cant judge pple if we are wearin colored lens

[dominion]

wa havent had any bros post here for some time. how are you guys doing?

although i got past being insecure, it has been still pretty much messed up for me. My pops is having EMA (got mistress) and our family has been trying to tolerate it for so long. pretending everything is ok just so that we dont break up. Found out that it has been so many years that he has been philandering, since i was 2 or 3 with diff girls. It was really the last straw for me. I can't believe in true love anymore. I had always craved for it but I'm afraid that I have inherited the philandering ways and cannot stay with one.

Worse is I visit HCs and all these to try and satisfy the emptiness in me and started liking one of them, which is bad enough. but worse is its prob due to the horniness and philandering ways I inherited

[Deztruct]

Originally Posted by dominion

I can't believe in true love anymore. I had always craved for it but I'm afraid that I have inherited the philandering ways and cannot stay with one.

Worse is I visit HCs and all these to try and satisfy the emptiness in me and started liking one of them, which is bad enough. but worse is its prob due to the horniness and philandering ways I inherited

if u feel tat u are a philander than u are one..its always easier tat way than to stay faithful to 1 ger rite..we humans always crave for something new n exciting

i not against u visitin HC..we men hv our needs also esp if we are single but to fall in love with gers workin there..i wld only say its natural esp if u are lonely inside u...only u noe best whether it will work out anot..ur father only gave u ur life and ur looks..for character wise..i always feel tat its somethin we can change becoz we are human and not animals who are guided by our pure instinct