Liverpool Fc @ Anfield - Reds Supporters Gatherings

[countryman]

Italy the much better side ultimately, justice was done. England no match in terms of ball control, technique n keeping possession. Spain is the only side better than Italy in ball possession. Why Grealish didn't start the match was baffling? Saka is still not @the top level yet. Rice n Phillips were never good enough right from the beginning, they couldn't even control the midfield n both players were very similar in style. I just hope Pool doesn't buy Declan Rice. Even Mason Mount was overrated, good a club level but only a very ordinary player playing for England, not even a single goal from him...
Italy the deserving winner!

[countryman]

Our regular sick man Keita has bulked up considerably this summer especially his arms n shoulder. He looks tougher n stronger now. This will improved his game tremendously as he was too lightweight previously n provided he stays injury free of course. .

[escobar43535]

Covid consequences seems to be making it very difficult to unload the players Klopp does not want, to raise cash to buy the players he wants.

So just have to hope and pray that Keita, Ox and Matip somehow keep fit, sharp and in form for a large part of next season! Might as well throw in Minamino as well but for him more like he needs to contribute much better whenever he is given the chance to play.

Btw can't believe Karius is still with us!!

[ThisIsMelwood]

Originally Posted by escobar43535

Covid consequences seems to be making it very difficult to unload the players Klopp does not want, to raise cash to buy the players he wants.

So just have to hope and pray that Keita, Ox and Matip somehow keep fit, sharp and in form for a large part of next season! Might as well throw in Minamino as well but for him more like he needs to contribute much better whenever he is given the chance to play.

Btw can't believe Karius is still with us!!

These players didn't perform well and so not many clubs keen on them...

[countryman]

Grujic deal is done.. Porto bought him finally!
Let's hope Pool can offload Karius, Origi n Woodburn or maybe even Minamino..

[escobar43535]

Liverpool started off pre-season mini friendlies. From what i read not a bad work out, a bit rusty so hopefully all this gets ironed out soon. Looks like Minamino still not that up to scratch though.

Apparently UK bookies have got City as favourites to retain the PL, followed by Chelsea, Liverpool next and then United. Very early days though.

Also seems like Nat Phillips might be going to Brighton for £15m.

[ThisIsMelwood]

Originally Posted by escobar43535

Liverpool started off pre-season mini friendlies. From what i read not a bad work out, a bit rusty so hopefully all this gets ironed out soon. Looks like Minamino still not that up to scratch though.

Apparently UK bookies have got City as favourites to retain the PL, followed by Chelsea, Liverpool next and then United. Very early days though.

Also seems like Nat Phillips might be going to Brighton for £15m.

Why Skipper Henderson contract any distraction to the team?

If any player unhappy then should be sold. No player bigger than the club.

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by escobar43535

Apparently UK bookies have got City as favourites to retain the PL, followed by Chelsea, Liverpool next and then United. Very early days though. Also seems like Nat Phillips might be going to Brighton for £15m.

I would put Chelsea first. They have bought well and Thomas Tuchel is a good manager. I don't trust VVD, Matip and Gomez. VVD and Gomez have not played a warm up match right? I don't think VVD can play a game every 2-3 days so soon after such a major injury. If NP goes, he will have a steady season while we may run into an injury crisis again mid-season. He should stay.

Originally Posted by ThisIsMelwood

If any player unhappy then should be sold. No player bigger than the club.

Then that means many players will be unhappy if Henderson is sold. The team knows Gini is underpaid for the work he does on the pitch and how often he plays. They can also see how much Gini is earning now and the length of his contract. Many of our top players are crossing 30 soon and they want Liverpool to commit to their last big contract. If not, let them leave and find a big contract like Gini. Even Salah has been talking about renewing his contract for some time.

Sadly, our team rebuilding is non-existent. Mane and Firmino has started to decline last season. Yet we are still describing our front 3 as world class. FSG's idea of moneyball is to buy cheap players with great potential. So far they have bought Konate. Whatever they may be buying also missed out on pre-season with us so the acclimatisation period will be longer.

Keita is going to be fit before AFCON and be injured after AFCON.

[escobar43535]

I would also put Chelsea first if they are able to get a reliable top quality striker like Haaland or Lewandoski.

That said if City get Kane, they are also going to be well up there again.

Hate say this but even United look to be buying quality players. Then again I don't rate OGS.

As for Liverpool, I am not so worried about our CB situation. Think it shall work itself out regardless of whether Phillips stays or not.

The bigger problem seems to be our front 3 in particular Sadio and Bobby. Like you said they both look to be on the decline. Hopefully they still have another season or two to shine because we can't be just relying on Mo. Jota is a good addition no doubt but still not enough if we want to seriously challenge for the PL again.

Actually we need more goals to come from our MF to supplement our attack. Unfortunately Fabinho and Thiago are not goal scorers. Technically very good but not known for goals. Which means we are left with Henderson, who is also not known as a goal scorer.

So unless we purchase a known goal scoring MF, we are stuck with trying our luck to get something from our bench with Ox, Keita and Curtis.

On the rebuilding bit, can't really blame FSG because Covid has thrown a spanner in the works. Just have to hope we are able to replenish our finances this coming season and then see where that takes us next.

Originally Posted by Xgenre

I would put Chelsea first. They have bought well and Thomas Tuchel is a good manager. I don't trust VVD, Matip and Gomez. VVD and Gomez have not played a warm up match right? I don't think VVD can play a game every 2-3 days so soon after such a major injury. If NP goes, he will have a steady season while we may run into an injury crisis again mid-season. He should stay.



Then that means many players will be unhappy if Henderson is sold. The team knows Gini is underpaid for the work he does on the pitch and how often he plays. They can also see how much Gini is earning now and the length of his contract. Many of our top players are crossing 30 soon and they want Liverpool to commit to their last big contract. If not, let them leave and find a big contract like Gini. Even Salah has been talking about renewing his contract for some time.

Sadly, our team rebuilding is non-existent. Mane and Firmino has started to decline last season. Yet we are still describing our front 3 as world class. FSG's idea of moneyball is to buy cheap players with great potential. So far they have bought Konate. Whatever they may be buying also missed out on pre-season with us so the acclimatisation period will be longer.

Keita is going to be fit before AFCON and be injured after AFCON.

[ThisIsMelwood]

Liverpool’s £86m move for Euros finalist spurned by Juventus – report

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2021/...ventus-report/

Not sure how Liverpool can spend such money?

If true then good news to bring Euro 2020 winner to Anfield. Think is virtually impossible.

[escobar43535]

Must say I thought "wow" when I read that rumour. Chiesa looks very good and does indeed seem to be the right fit for Klopp's type of attack force. Hope the rumour is true because regardless of whether we actually get Chiesa it would at least show that FSG post covid are still prepared to give Klopp his marquee signing should the need arise.

Back to the here and now, the just completed sale of Harry Wilson to Fulham for £12m means that Liverpool have now made £33.3m in transfer sales this summer, hopefully with more still to come. Taiwo Awoniyi (Union Berlin) and Marko Grujić (FC Porto) between them brought in £17m, Liam Millar joined FC Basel for £1.3m, and Kamil Grabara moved to FC Copenhagen for £3m.

Wilson has also been out on loan three times, which saw loan fees of £5m paid between Derby County, Bournemouth and Cardiff. That means that the Welsh winger has actually made Liverpool £17m in all having graduated from their academy.

Given the signing of Ibrahima Konaté set Liverpool back £35m, they have almost broken even so far. Elsewhere at Liverpool, still to go, potentially, are Xherdan Shaqiri, Takumi Minamino and Divock Origi, who between them could possibly demand close to £40m in transfer fees.

That would mean a possible total recoup of around £73m. Nat Phillips (£15m to Brighton ) could soon edge the dial towards the £90m mark.

Michael Edwards been busy again this summer. Fingers crossed he can pull another rabbit or two out of his magic hat to add more top quality immediate impact players to the Liverpool squad.

Originally Posted by ThisIsMelwood

Liverpool’s £86m move for Euros finalist spurned by Juventus – report

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2021/...ventus-report/

Not sure how Liverpool can spend such money?

If true then good news to bring Euro 2020 winner to Anfield. Think is virtually impossible.

[ThisIsMelwood]

Originally Posted by escobar43535

Michael Edwards been busy again this summer. Fingers crossed he can pull another rabbit or two out of his magic hat to add more top quality immediate impact players to the Liverpool squad.

Now I am sure after offering new contracts to Trent, Fabinho, Alisson and Salah, maybe a big name signing.

I think Liverpool do not want to upset those current players which they deemed important to keep before the big signing.

I am sure many MC players will be unhappy with Grealish big signing especially Sterling, etc.

[escobar43535]

Tbh don't have a clue whether the Reds shall eventually make a marquee signing before the summer transfer window closes bro.

Somehow i am back to being pessimistic again as i dont think we have the cash unless we are able to sell first and i dont see this happening because other clubs are also cash strapped because of covid.

On a positive note, looks like our preseason training is going quite smoothly. VVD finally getting some much needed game time, Keita seems to be fit and strong(just have to hope for the best on this one!), Konate fitting in nicely, Elliott might have a chance to stay instead of being loaned out again, Tsimikas looks pretty good and even Minamino appears to be playing quite well. Also there is a young kid by the name of Kaide Gordon who looks to be one for the future.

Really looking forward to our opening game against Norwich.

Originally Posted by ThisIsMelwood

Now I am sure after offering new contracts to Trent, Fabinho, Alisson and Salah, maybe a big name signing.

I think Liverpool do not want to upset those current players which they deemed important to keep before the big signing.

I am sure many MC players will be unhappy with Grealish big signing especially Sterling, etc.

[Xgenre]

Given how our competitors are buying players and rebuilding their teams for the many seasons to come, we are tying players on big contracts till their 30s. I don't understand the logic.

[ThisIsMelwood]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Given how our competitors are buying players and rebuilding their teams for the many seasons to come, we are tying players on big contracts till their 30s. I don't understand the logic.

@Xgenre

1. Looks like Liverpool relying on the trusted players who won them the CL and PL.

2. Unless transfer signings by end of wndow which is 31 Aug.

3. Dun forget we going to lose Salah, Mane and Keita for AFCON.

4. Chelsea signing Lukaku, MU signed Sancho and Varane, MC signed Grealish

5. If MC can sign Kane then should retain PL