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Old 17-11-2013, 01:38 AM
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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

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Reading this make me feel so much better. I'm not alone.

I'm going to restore my pride and dignity from today. Knn make me suffered so much. Even pangsai also think of her. Going to break free from her witchcraft.

To all the bro suffering out there. U are not alone. It's time to wake up and be a man again

Very meaningful thread. Especially some of the knowledge/wisdom shared here about not being a 贩贱的男人. So many guys my age put the pussy on a pedestal, and act like dogs or pets in order to humor a woman.

I myself have also experienced a lot of heartbreak, been manipulated and eaten (was a total carrot when I was younger). Look forward to learning from more experienced bros on emotional control, self-mastery, and being a better and more successful man overall. Thanks for the stories and knowledge shared so far! Have enjoyed reading it.
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Nice story TS!
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Dear bro deathnitez,

Tks for sharing ur experience.

Making 3 girls cry in a wk is good... if their cry is genuine. Girls enjoy strong emotions n what don't kill them will make them stronger haha.
Hi Bro WB,

yeah tbh sometimes I myself is not sure about geniune but I do know the girl which was one of fav make a super big feat on her FB Line Wechat and Whatsapp with her statues comments and postings. Her friend keep asking her what happen HAHAHA I am not sure to be happy or sad but I told her let just be friends okay she still can't wtf..... not bf gf cannot be friends....

Anyway why do these girls still call me a good guy... I was in TD "which i seriously don't like" cause of my friend. I get to know a girl. She sat with me, out of boredom I started to dance to thai music which i seriously don't know how to dance but my exp with redum helps. We dance together then again the girl call me a good guy follow up some other girls came and join us. That night alone i got a few girls number and I only tip the first girl....

Just a question does dancing actually in a way trigger their emotions?? Anyway i am not planning to follow up with any of the girls.... one thai girl is enough to suck me dry....
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How to really love when her occupation is to fake GFE, facing endless guys everyday??

and how u can love when u have the moolah to change a new gal everyday?? U just see them as disposable underwear and throwing out after using it.

The routine goes on and there's only one word to describe it, numb!

When there is a game, there will always be a winner and a loser. U heard of crocodile tears?? This could be just because take so much effort to sharpen the knife yet carrot run off or hasn't chop enough yet. Don't tell me u believe they love u genuinely??!! U have more gals than u can handle but for them, there are endless supply of Roberts flocking to them everyday.

Count yourself is they cry and not you cry! By that time if pocket empty also "kao bo bak sai" ..... nothing to really boast about on the women u can use $$ to bed, the real prize is those have $$ also cant bed.
Hi Crood,

So far i have face a few which literally rejected my offer after ahem with them. Is weird but tbh is nothing to be proud of. Sometimes i see these girls I am not sure to pity them or what but I still try to treat them with humanity.

One exp which i will never forget is after ahem i offer, she reject but i counter offer by saying "use the money for grooming yourself more pretty the next time i see you which you already are." she still rejects. after 3 tries I gave up. thats one of the experience which i will never forget. But end up I broke up with her as my heart is still with another....
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Reading this make me feel so much better. I'm not alone.

I'm going to restore my pride and dignity from today. Knn make me suffered so much. Even pangsai also think of her. Going to break free from her witchcraft...........................
Dear bro radiskull,

Even the most experienced player may get KC-ed when he meets his 'dream girl,' hahaha.

The best defence is to hv abundance mindset n believe that younger, prettier, fresher n safer girls r lining up for you...

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Very meaningful thread. ............So many guys my age put the pussy on a pedestal, and act like dogs or pets in order to humor a woman.

I myself have also experienced a lot of heartbreak, been manipulated and eaten (was a total carrot when I was younger). Look forward to learning from more experienced bros on emotional control, self-mastery, and being a better and more successful man overall..........................
Dear bro LookingGuy,

Tks for ur post.

No man has a monopoly on emotional control n self mastery. There is room for improvement for everyone.

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Hi Bro WB,

yeah tbh sometimes I myself is not sure about geniune but I do know the girl which was one of fav make a super big feat on her FB Line Wechat and Whatsapp with her statues comments and postings..........................

Just a question does dancing actually in a way trigger their emotions?? Anyway i am not planning to follow up with any of the girls.... one thai girl is enough to suck me dry....
Dear bro deathnitez,

Yes, dancing does trigger their emotions n fantasies. I'll explain below.

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Good morning!

I believe that bros who can sing well n dance well hv an advantage in attracting n seducing beautiful women or pretty SYTs at their subconscious level, at least initially.

Most women don't even know why n don't see any connection between dancing n sexual attraction hahaha. Of course a good dancer could turn out to be a big disappointment later hahhaha.

Let me let u in on a secret which very few people know. The reason is because good dancers n good singers r perceived to hv good RHYTHM.

Good RHYTHM is crucial if u want to give a woman the most incredible PVO. With Good RHYTHM u put her in a trance n set her up for the most intense n explosive PVO hahaha.

BTW, I searched SBF n couldn't find anything on rhythm n female orgasm/satisfaction? Are we SG men all robots?

Unfortunately, I don't sing n I don't dance well. I hv to learn to improve my rhythm slowly n painstakingly...the goal is to merge my rhythm w/ hers...when two shall become one flesh.

Of course it takes a lot more than just rhythm...

Cheers!

Bro WB

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RHYTHM? I’ve got good rhythm. Hehehe. I can sing and love to sing and I love to listen to the singers sing. Not all of them can sing though. Ironically, the worst singers get the most flowers. And they say: dancing is a vertical expression of a horizontal desire.
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Old 21-11-2013, 04:31 AM
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RHYTHM? I’ve got good rhythm. Hehehe. I can sing and love to sing and I love to listen to the singers sing. Not all of them can sing though. Ironically, the worst singers get the most flowers. And they say: dancing is a vertical expression of a horizontal desire.
Dear bro FA,

Great quote!

"Dancing: The vertical expression of a horizontal desire legalized by music." — George Bernard Shaw

Singing is not as powerful as dancing. Do u dance well? If u do, u hv an unfair advantage in attracting girls, at least initially.

Dancing is definitely sexual. Even folk dancing by adolescent girls has sexual undertone.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

After much thought, I think the formula, Hope + Uncertainty (Doubt) = Attraction (Passion), should be modified.

The new formula is Hope X Doubt = Attraction

If u give a girl no Hope or zero Hope for the future, her attraction for u will eventually be zero, as in 0 X Doubt = 0.

If u hv confessed ur eternal love for a girl or if you're in a legal marriage, u hv removed all Doubt(s) n Uncertainty has dropped close to zero or zero. Despite very high Hope(s) for the future for both of u, Hope X 0 = 0. No wonder there is sky high divorce rates n very unhappy long-term RS.

A man must balance the right amt of Hope n Doubt to maintain n sustain Attraction, whether he has been w/ the girl/woman 30 min or 30 yrs.
Your comments n criticisms?

Another recent encounter. A few days before leaving for Gotham City, I saw a singer XH who could be my type, at a high end joint. I was in a rm w/ two esteemed bros. My ex mistress CY was also in the rm. I told the waitress to get XH. She came n sat w/ me. Her singing was good but not great. She is 20, 168, fair, proportionate body. Unfortunately her boobs were only B? I like her voice n her youthfulness.

Two days later, I booked her for HH at a PC joint. I wanted to ST her, she said she would never do ST regardless of my offer haha. I offered to BY her. I was brutally frank abt my intentions n her purpose of coming to SG. She nodded n said she would consider.

The next day, she said OK for BY. I suggested two options: 1) I buy all her slots so she doesn't work plus I give her some extra, quite costly. 2) She continues to work n the terms r negotiable, much less expensive.

She said Option 2 better. She only wanted some living expenses, no need to hang flowers or buying her slots. Said she would never fuck other men. I said: 你可以和客人去宵夜,she thought I said no supper n replied: 啊不能去宵夜?!I said: 当然可以. I told her I would test her w/ Oraquick n send her to KK n hinted that I would fuck her raw. She said not a problem. I would start the RS when I return from Gotham City in a month.

I hv had very little experience w/ singers as I sleep early, a great disadvantage. But she is one of the very few singers of my type I hv seen in the last few yrs in SG. Two clear n present risks. Firstly, whether I 'll still like her when she is stark naked n whether I can make her cum n cum. Secondly, whether she will fuck other men. To mitigate the risks, I'll pay her weekly haha. If the 'living expenses' r low enough, I'll treat it like a serial STs or packaged STs. If she fucks her men, I'll drop her. Of course, I'll check my sources to see if she has a BF when I return.

Any better options? Just drop her? I can take it or leave it haha.

Cheers!

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Hi Crood,

So far i have face a few which literally rejected my offer after ahem with them. Is weird but tbh is nothing to be proud of. Sometimes i see these girls I am not sure to pity them or what but I still try to treat them with humanity.

One exp which i will never forget is after ahem i offer, she reject but i counter offer by saying "use the money for grooming yourself more pretty the next time i see you which you already are." she still rejects. after 3 tries I gave up. thats one of the experience which i will never forget. But end up I broke up with her as my heart is still with another....
If she's not a FL and u offer her $$ right after sex, it's could be quite an insult for women.
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If she's not a FL and u offer her $$ right after sex, it's could be quite an insult for women.

Sorry actually i am still not sure what is the diff with FL or WL can someone explain. But that time I was thinking since she works in such places most likely she would want money. Maybe she is trying to fish but hmmm I am not sure.
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Dear bro FA,

Great quote!

"Dancing: The vertical expression of a horizontal desire legalized by music." — George Bernard Shaw

Singing is not as powerful as dancing. Do u dance well? If u do, u hv an unfair advantage in attracting girls, at least initially.

Dancing is definitely sexual. Even folk dancing by adolescent girls has sexual undertone.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

After much thought, I think the formula, Hope + Uncertainty (Doubt) = Attraction (Passion), should be modified.

The new formula is Hope X Doubt = Attraction

If u give a girl no Hope or zero Hope for the future, her attraction for u will eventually be zero, as in 0 X Doubt = 0.

If u hv confessed ur eternal love for a girl or if you're in a legal marriage, u hv removed all Doubt(s) n Uncertainty has dropped close to zero or zero. Despite very high Hope(s) for the future for both of u, Hope X 0 = 0. No wonder there is sky high divorce rates n very unhappy long-term RS.

A man must balance the right amt of Hope n Doubt to maintain n sustain Attraction, whether he has been w/ the girl/woman 30 min or 30 yrs.
Your comments n criticisms?

Another recent encounter. A few days before leaving for Gotham City, I saw a singer XH who could be my type, at a high end joint. I was in a rm w/ two esteemed bros. My ex mistress CY was also in the rm. I told the waitress to get XH. She came n sat w/ me. Her singing was good but not great. She is 20, 168, fair, proportionate body. Unfortunately her boobs were only B? I like her voice n her youthfulness.

Two days later, I booked her for HH at a PC joint. I wanted to ST her, she said she would never do ST regardless of my offer haha. I offered to BY her. I was brutally frank abt my intentions n her purpose of coming to SG. She nodded n said she would consider.

The next day, she said OK for BY. I suggested two options: 1) I buy all her slots so she doesn't work plus I give her some extra, quite costly. 2) She continues to work n the terms r negotiable, much less expensive.

She said Option 2 better. She only wanted some living expenses, no need to hang flowers or buying her slots. Said she would never fuck other men. I said: 你可以和客人去宵夜,she thought I said no supper n replied: 啊不能去宵夜?!I said: 当然可以. I told her I would test her w/ Oraquick n send her to KK n hinted that I would fuck her raw. She said not a problem. I would start the RS when I return from Gotham City in a month.

I hv had very little experience w/ singers as I sleep early, a great disadvantage. But she is one of the very few singers of my type I hv seen in the last few yrs in SG. Two clear n present risks. Firstly, whether I 'll still like her when she is stark naked n whether I can make her cum n cum. Secondly, whether she will fuck other men. To mitigate the risks, I'll pay her weekly haha. If the 'living expenses' r low enough, I'll treat it like a serial STs or packaged STs. If she fucks her men, I'll drop her. Of course, I'll check my sources to see if she has a BF when I return.

Any better options? Just drop her? I can take it or leave it haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB
LOL...Warbird's Law Hope X Doubt = Attraction ..is as universal as Newton's laws..

Totally agree..that's y sometimes need to create doubt and explore the emotional possibilities of fear..

Hope & Fear - the basic emotions that move markets..
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LOL...Warbird's Law Hope X Doubt = Attraction ..is as universal as Newton's laws..

Totally agree..that's y sometimes need to create doubt and explore the emotional possibilities of fear..

Hope & Fear - the basic emotions that move markets..
Dear bro saabking,

You're spot on.

Women thrive on strong emotions. If u give them more hope, they will get greedier...if u give them more doubt, they will get more fearful, because they don't want to lose ur support n the intense PVO u hv given them hahaha.

Fear is the most powerful emotion. Greed is a distant 2nd.

If u say no or reject a girl, say for BY, u must keep her hopes alive, otherwise she will just give up on u for good.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

Another FR. This time picking up inside a KTV.

A few days ago I reconnected w/ a young woman RJ who is getting her undergraduate degree at a UK university next yr.

I first met RJ at TAM 1st fl over 1 1/2 years ago. I saw her in the hall n quickly got her ctc. I didn't book her as I had a mistress n another girl w/ me. I called her two days later to ask for ST. She said NO. I then offered BY n she replied that she was finishing her education in SG n returning to China very soon. Besides, I had too many tall SYTs already, she said. I got her QQ anyway. Couldn't see her pics as password was required. i didn't follow up.

A few months later she sent me a text msg n asked how I was doing. I asked if she was coming back to SG soon to be my woman haha. No, she was flying to the UK to study next wk. I looked up her QQ pics (she unlocked for me) n realized how pretty n sexy she was. She was 23 then, abt 170, B/C cup? Very proportionate body with shapely, beautiful ass. I visualized giving her frequent PVO she had never, ever experienced before haha. I bemoaned the fact that she was so far away.

She sent me another QQ msg 9 months ago n gave me her UK HP no. I never called her even though she said she could meet me if I go to see her in London. she was spending most of her waking time studying...

A few days ago, I registered for a new WhatApp w/ my Gotham phone n I came across RJ as being available. We had a long chat in English. She is Hakka Han, from 广东梅州. I hv never BYed a 客家人.

She sent me newer photos n added me to her Wechat. She has never been BYed. She has a regular BF now who doesn't give her any support. She is from a middle class family. She is not in love w/ her BF n will not marry him after graduation. To me, that means he is NOT giving her any PVO hahaha. If she had told me she didn't hv a BF, she would be lying or she is a lesbian. I can't believe such a pretty n sexy girl w/o a BF. I told her to get a good job in SG n become my mistress next yr. I told her I hv only one er nai at this time. She said she would seriously consider hahaha. She would be different from all my other mistresses because she is better educated n has a degree from the UK. Like a bro says, intelligent n educated women r attractive. And she is my type in looks n figure.

Good day!

Bro WB
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Good morning!

I'm going to be very blunt n brutally honest.

In the era of AIDS, our lives literally depend on the faithfulness of our women/GFs/wives/mistresses/lovers. Women cheat as much as men, but they r much better in concealing their affairs haha. Over 50% of legal wives cheat. Local SG girls cheat just as much as maligned PRC n Thai girls.

A few days ago, a good kaki of mine was to up a pretty n tall local SYT in a well known 5-star hotel. She was very expensive n was said to be my type too. My kaki was late because he had to park in another nearby hotel. He ran but was still over 25 mins late n the girl got very nervous, cried n left. According to the OKT, she was a 'very good girl' n had a new local BF n she didn't want him to get suspicious! I know this hotel very well n there is valet parking!

How do u 'cheat proof' your women? Be vigilant n maintain a high index of suspicion. NEVER be complacent whether you hv been w/ her 2 days or 20 yrs. Most importantly...her degree of emotional n sexual connection/addiction w/ and for you. In doubt, don't hesitate to engage a reputable PI.

I hv mentioned the importance of making deep emotional connection w/ your women n that this connection, no matter how seemly strong n secure, can't last forever without strong sexual connection and/or addiction as well.

I hv also mentioned that the most powerful n fastest way for a woman to get sexually addicted is regular, intense n prolonged PVO. IMHO, the 2nd most powerful way is to give her masterful cunnilingus n make her come n come. It's even more powerful If u know how to give simultaneous stimulation of her G/deep spot n anus, the so-called trigasm. Making a woman sexually addicted to you takes time, perhaps minimum of 3 to 6 months or longer of staying together...

One factor that has not been well discussed, nor well understood, is the right balance of dopamine n oxytocin in inducing sexual addiction. Too much in one may upset the balance n may disrupt the addictive process. Unfortunately, this is very complex n there r many other variables, depending on both partners n the activities, inside n outside of bedroom..

Any comments?

Cheers!

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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Totally agree that local sg gals cheat as much as the PRC n Thai gals. How do you “cheat-proof” your women? It depends. Every woman and every situation is different – are you talking about a 19 year old gf the 2 of you just got together, or a 40+ year old wife/mother you have been married to for 2 decades? I have seen very stanch, mother of pre-teen kids, with very very strict upbringing cheat. I know another 40+ woman (wife’s best friend) who will cheat at the drop of the hat with a guy she liked decades ago – heck, they may already have for all I know and the other guy doesn’t even know she’s married with a schooling kid!! I’ve have had my fair share of being ogled by matured women, ugly ones, at Shanghai Dolly, trying to pick me up even when I was there with a group of PRC gals. And then there’s the 19 year old FL I was to meet last week – yes, I’m the “good kaki” LOL I’ll be bonking her later this week.

How to “cheat-proof”? I don’t know… I don’t have a fool-proof method but all I know is that women cheat because its in their nature (some of them) or by circumstances. What I know though, is how to detect and catch them. I always tell my subordinates at work: you want to catch a thief/fraud, think like one. If you don’t think like one (and put yourself in his/her shoes), you’ll never catch one cos a cheat/thief/fraud will always conceal and cover their tracks to avoid detection and being caught. If we eat out ourselves, it makes us good detectives to begin with. The worst enemy for the cheater is complacency. We give it to them. By being “ignorant” and nonchalant. Take your time and let the other party let down their guard. Never raise their suspicion by raising yours. There’s a Chinese saying… you’ll bound to meet the tiger if you go up the mountains often enough.

Her phone is the place where you’ll find most of the evidences – she will guard it with her life. Her change in behaviour. Change in routines. Are there periods of time of the day/night where she’s uncontactable? Change in dressing. More conscious of her appearance, body, etc. Check her phone bill/phone records. Look for changes in patterns. Is sex different now – routines, patterns, positions, frequencies, etc. When you suspect something, DO NOT act on it immediately. Resist the urge to react. Keep your cool and act normal. DO NOT raise any alarms of hers.

Anyways, I could go on and on but that’s not my forte or the purpose of this thread but I do think that its more than sexual and emotional connection – money comes into play too.
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Totally agree that local sg gals cheat as much as the PRC n Thai gals. How do you “cheat-proof” your women? It depends. Every woman and every situation is different – ..................................And then there’s the 19 year old FL I was to meet last week – yes, I’m the “good kaki” LOL I’ll be bonking her later this week.

How to “cheat-proof”? I don’t know… I don’t have a fool-proof method but all I know is that women cheat because its in their nature (some of them) or by circumstances. What I know though, is how to detect and catch them...................................By being “ignorant” and nonchalant. Take your time and let the other party let down their guard. Never raise their suspicion by raising yours. There’s a Chinese saying… you’ll bound to meet the tiger if you go up the mountains often enough.

Her phone is the place where you’ll find most of the evidences – she will guard it with her life. Her change in behaviour. Change in routines. Are there periods of time of the day/night where she’s uncontactable? Change in dressing. More conscious of her appearance, body, etc. Check her phone bill/phone records. Look for changes in patterns. Is sex different now – routines, patterns, positions, frequencies, etc. When you suspect something, DO NOT act on it immediately. Resist the urge to react. Keep your cool and act normal. DO NOT raise any alarms of hers.............................................b ut I do think that its more than sexual and emotional connection – money comes into play too.
Dear bro FA,

Thank you for ur excellent n informative post.

Actually women/girls 'cheat' as much as men, but for slightly different reasons. They r more 'emotionally-driven' hahaha. I've read some research articles on this subject n will give a summary later.

If u call ur women/girl n she doesn't answer for one full hr, be very, very suspicious. If it happens twice, u should assume she is fucking someone else until proven otherwise. If she is a mistress or GF, just walk away asap!

In the unfortunate case that you hv been w/ her for many yrs (she is ur legal spouse or favourite mistress, for example), u may want to investigate to be 100% sure. If there is supporting evidence as detailed by bro FA, there is no need to investigate, dump her or divorce her asap. Life is too short to waste any more time. There r so many younger n prettier girls waiting for u!!

Yeah, money may be a major factor, especially if the woman is a WL.

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Btw bro Warbird, BY the 海歸女! I'd love a learned mistress who has been educated in UK, with looks to boot! She will be a 女神 when she returns to China
Yes bro. I know she will be my mistress soon if I really want her. She is getting her BA (Hons) International Business Management. Her looks n figure r good but not outstanding n she is 25. She says that I may not like her very much as she knows my taste for young n pretty SYTs.

I know that you're going to up that local SYT soon. Good luck!

BTW, I 'm watching a Jap TV show n I like Eikura Nana very much. She is 25, 170, but boobs only B? Not that pretty but very cute. Very proportionate figure n big nice ass. Can't even find a nude pic on Google. You need to see how she walk as pics don't do justice to her sexual charm. I'll tell 'u know who' to get her for ST haha. Interested? Not ur type? I'm afraid our OKT may not be able to get her at any price.

Cheers!

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