Wanna hear abt experiences from bros that cheat

[lamelame76]

Originally Posted by devilust

Wow. Are you wearing size 9, cuz I'm in same shoe. I think it's an excuse but eating outside is the only way to keep me sane. My number one rule is no local.

Bro, why no local??

[devilust]

Originally Posted by lamelame76

Bro, why no local??

Just being cautious, I don't want accidentally step in to complicated shit.

[Booboo7891]

Originally Posted by devilust

Wow. Are you wearing size 9, cuz I'm in same shoe. I think it's an excuse but eating outside is the only way to keep me sane. My number one rule is no local.

Haha same boat bro. I used to be like you and chionged Europeans only, then one day too itchy and decided I miss local girls. Straight away went for it. So far no issues lol

[Booboo7891]

Originally Posted by lamelame76

Yea bro, honestly these are stuff that I wouldn't have been able to find out if I hadn't consulted from everyone here. First of all most of my friends are single or just getting married, and no one is gonna confess to me that they find other girls behind their spouses' back unless we are super close. I had been thinking how come every guy also can tahan so well, no sex life with wife then can tahan all the way.

Wow, having managed to try russians - how was it? are the angmohs a lot better than asians? haha

Yah bro, I honestly think that some of the people around us do frequent FLs secretly but are too afraid to share. I had a couple of close friends and ns mates share with me a long time ago but back then I never had the feel to do the same for reasons I mentioned earlier. Now that I go every now and then, I’m the one who’s been keeping it to myself lol. I feel too embarrassed to open up those friends now that I’m married hahahah.

With Russians/Europeans it’s a hit and miss. If you read the reviews sometimes they just wanna get it over and done with but sometimes they make you feel like James Bond and make sure you go home with your tank empty. My kink is that I’ll ask them to sexily whisper Russian or Spanish or whatever their language is in my ear when we’re fucking. They could be spouting nonsense and I’d never know, its just a fucking huge turn on hahhaa. This was pre-covid however so I haven’t been gg with them since the price has now doubled.

With rgds to the comparisons, I rarely frequent Asians who are not local so I really can’t comment. Despite their services generally being more affordable, they’re not really my type. Maybe one day if I build up the appetite lol. I guess it really depends on your preference or taste in the end. A good FL will hit all the right spots

[willroyce]

Well for starters, if you really love her and if she is okay with you doing LDR it is already a big thing. So be smart and keep her and if u wanna have fun go overseas and make sure have one night things not something committed. I am not in a marriage anymore and sometimes I use sugarbook,live to find some companionship but seeing my friends and family have all settled down and also some got kids just makes me wonder about my life.

[willroyce]

Originally Posted by CDNsa

Lots of truth here.

Also to add. Do you really need to fuck. Or will a CBJ (yes safe sex. As above don't bring anything home) or a massage plus HJ do it for you.

Sometimes you may think you need to have sex but then what you may just need is some pampering from a ML with the extra HJ or BJ that comes along with it.

Yes I agree with this, sometimes is all about the touch and we as men can feel complete. I use Fl services or Sugarbook,live to experience this

[willroyce]

Originally Posted by catlord

I'm slightly older than you bro. Financially I'm alright but definitely not where I want to be yet.

I think it all comes down to, you need to figure out what you want. Just some more points for you to consider. I think many guys underestimate the importance of both love and sex to their happiness.

Of course as men we want sex with all kinds of women. We want variety, quantity and quality. Is paid sex going to satisfy you long term though? Have you done it before? I frequented GL many years back, but after a while I grew to hate paid sex and never did it again. I felt like a loser doing it. There's just no replacement for getting a girl to fuck you not because of money but because she wants to. I realized sex for me is not just about the sex but also the ego. Also, I love traveling and fucking exotic races of women. Let me tell you, the time I spent in Brazil when I got laid with 7 hot Brazilian chicks in a week (non paid), I don't care what anyone says I felt such an intense level of happiness and satisfaction. I think many men today underestimate how much getting laid adds to their happiness.

But also, think about whether you really want to get married. What do you want out of it? Do you just want a life partner or do you also want to have a family and continue your bloodline? If you want kids, the requirements for your wife increase. I find most guys don't really think about whether their potential wife would be a good mother. Is she young and healthy enough to bear children? Does she have good genes? Is she smart? Does she have good upbringing and values that she can pass on to your kids? These days bro, it's tough to find a woman who possess the qualities of a good mother, plus not a hoe, plus attractive, plus loyal and loves you sincerely. A man who wants a family would wife up such a girl and not let her go.

Personally I want it all. I want to have a family with a good woman in the future but also continue to have all the sexual freedom. Therefore I gotta move up the ladder and become a high value man. That's my path based on what I want. You have to decide what you want too and choose your path from there.

To be a men like this needs strong mental values and every men wishes for a life like this but it all comes down to how strong you are mentally and emotionally to have the confidence in achieving all this

[willroyce]

Originally Posted by Booboo7891

Haha same boat bro. I used to be like you and chionged Europeans only, then one day too itchy and decided I miss local girls. Straight away went for it. So far no issues lol

As much as we love fish&chips and pasta, we cant go wrong with our local nasi lemak and chee chong fun. Same here was into europeans but after being on Sugar-B too much found my attraction with locals again

[willroyce]

Originally Posted by centvin

If u currently dun have the potential to exceed an average Singaporeans pay, forget abt ur thoughts, go with ur gf. Money can unlock or make alot things easier.

Money always does, does not matter what u do or what u look like. Money is the universal key

[CDNsa]

Originally Posted by willroyce

Yes I agree with this, sometimes is all about the touch and we as men can feel complete. I use Fl services or Sugarbook,live to experience this

Yeah.thats the part. You just want a woman to just touch you and adore you in a certain way.

[SocialCircle]

Originally Posted by entering

I'm one of the few maybe who I think has the best of all worlds.

A family, 3 kids who are top achievers. I'm a single income family, so I'm mostly focus on earning a salary to support my kids. I settled most of my wife and my retirement already and I'm 46 this year.

Most of the girls I've had, about 99% of them are foreigners. Also almost all are GFs in a way. Cuz I started out single income, no money for FL. So most times, I try to compensate by being a BF to these girls.

In SG, cuz I a bit lazy, so now most of my girls are maids. I've a few sg girls, but sg girls a lot of work, need to wine and dine then etc and I've no time. And all my maids come to my house to do part time cleaning. I fuck them outside and at home, when we are alone. Some times, I fuck one maid at 4am, then fuck one at my home, then go out and fuck one in the afternoon, then at night fuck the one that can come out late.

Most countries, I've a girl or girls. Sometimes I visit them, when I'm there for work. Some of them, will fly to SG to meet me.

So, some of my thoughts about this:
1. Since you have decided to eat outside, just got ahead and do it. If not, this may still destroy all your relationships when you constantly feel sexually frustrated. It will eat into you.

2. For me, the way to fuck until the fucking becomes like a normal activity in life so that I don't over react and people know my secret life, is that I fucked until I feel sian about fucking so many and having to manage my time so tightly. So, there came a point I felt like, ok I had enough. Then, when see girls, I actually now, no reaction because I feel, anytime I want, I can get more.

3. Money is important. Yes, I eat free, but travelling, even just a simple meal with all of them, going to meet them, I own a car, and also some of the girls overseas that I like to have long term relationships, they don't ask but during COVID, I give them some money. The maids, they go back home, I give them some money to buy things for their kids. All these small expenses will add up.

4. You need to plan ahead a lot if you wish to have that so called perfect family and also your girls. Like my work, I'm upper management, but at night I drive Grab. Why I drive Grab? So that I can think about my work, plan how to meet who, and sometimes at night, my girls can meet I go out and meet them for a long night of sex. Some can meet at 4am, etc etc. Then come home totally shagged but sextisfied. But all my tracks are covered.

5. Some bros say you've to look decent. That's right but even more important, if you want the girls to RTF you, your sex skills need to improve. Because if you are going to marry, you won't have time to constantly prospect for new FL or girls. So, you need to attract some of the good ones back with your constant romantic text and also good sex.

6. Have fun, don't regret and feel guilty. If not, it will be better to just stick to your gf or wife. It will eat you inside out, especially if you feel guilty.

7. Never boast about your ECA, always tell people you're boring. Always disqualify, like if girls approach you, tell them you're fat, short, ugly and poor. See if they still want you. Tell them, you're married, see if they still want you. Then those who really stay with you, they'll be loyal and quiet.

8. Never tell the girls that you've other girls. I only tell maybe 1 out of the many because this Indonesian girl and I wanted to have a baby together. So, I came clean with her and she still love me after that. The rest, they all think they are the only one. Even all my maids think they're the only one.

Hope that helps to give you some perspective.

This is a nice thread.
It seems like we all fall in the same age group, 40s.
Me too somehow wakes up wanting to live my life that I’ve never experienced in my youth.
Reading your advices rings deep into me. Good counselling.
It’s the mental guilt that will come intermittently that frustrate me.
All the struggles that I read on this thread, I feel them too.
Was thinking of divorce and live the life I want but it never come thru.
So I’m in the same situation where I’m seeing someone.
I’m not really having anxiety when I’m outside with my lover cos sometimes I dun care if someone sees it and tell my spouse and it will all end there.
No complains on my spouse except sometimes find that our taste for things/ thoughts are different and her mum is nonsensical controlling her dad and I feeling sometimes she’s exhibiting this character too.
And along the way came to know this woman that mentally and intellectually can connects to u….
But I just maintain my family and sees my lover sometimes.
Thankfully. She knows on my status and there are times she will feel guilty on and off.

[visualman]

This is a good thread. I myself in the 40s. Single income, with kids, relatively happy family life. Fucked with wife regularly.. once a month

But when u hit 40s.. ur career is near peak.. and coupled these non-sense mid-life crisis.. we start questioning more..

What if i had hornier wife
What if i had a SB
What if i had lots of FBs
Etc etc.

At least these what constanly bugging me.

I eat outside from time to time.. but mainly if i have overseas business trip.. mainly more to fill up the burning questions.. or curiousity that i have.

Good sharing for all the bros.

[itguy2008]

seems like the common problem we faced is the love spark died or going off in our love life with a gf or wife.

So we turn to cheating to find that feeling back.

At least I did that. Then I discover.... the sex with the FB is good but .... actually it is not real. I mean it was good during that half a day or two hours but after that.... the majority of the time I face my wife.... the feeling inside is still hollow....

That was when things get complicated... you feel that you miss your FB more and more.... it is not the sex but rather the tender love feeling that your wife does not give you any more.

Like going to staycation with wife.... it can mean no sex.... hahaha. She does not include sex as part of the program any more unlike the FB.

[promiscus]

@TS: bro, you are getting the condensed wisdom of a lifetime in three pages haha! Good thread.

I will just add one observation. The very fact you started this thread shows you have empathy. From your replies to other bros, I see that you have intellect and humility as well.

So, in my experience, you will do this and have a wild time. And you will regret it all. And this cycle will repeat. Over time you will learn to compartmentalise your feelings. But it will all leave you hollow and wanting for more. But you will still do it.

Welcome to the club.

[piichai]

I have been through few marriages and I am on the receiving end and giving end when it comes to EMA.
These are my observations :

1) We can fuck around with other peoples woman (wives) and our wives can also do the same and probably will because both of them do not have the sparks anymore.

2) Many married couples are not happily married and they may seem happy but only they know best. Maintaining a healthy relationship takes trust, faithfulness, respect and love.

3) My flings, FWB and FB usually married comes from all walks of life when I was single and attached.
Some of their betrayal are so scary that I dont trust woman anymore.

4) When men are attached, they can either find a FB or pay to get a release.
It takes only 1 occasion to break the bond and betray her, once it is done, it is very hard to stay faithful and you will start to stray

I have been faithful for 8 months now because i found my true love. She is married and maybe wife of someone in this forum. She is considering to get out of a sexless marriage.
She is more than 45. As for me, after all these married life and expensive commercial sex, I have good sex with her and she loves me.
Now instead of spending on SPA and GL, I spend it on us and I even have spared cash to save.

I think I may be in a honeymoon period and I am not sure when the novelty will wears out and how long i can hold on before returning to commercial scene.
I hope I wont.

5) When there is no feeling between 2 couples, women are usually the one who feels it first.
They are also the one that want to get out of it if they can.