Is there true love between us and PRC WL

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by aczeta76

Yuopz.. well said.

We all play a game and so muz be prepared to suffer losses when we lose.

You see, here's the problem. Many tahan and go wif the flow but in time, they actually fall for it. That's when the stuffs gets deeper. She does something wrong, wierd, suspiciouus but you make yourself accept her explaination blah blah.....keeps going on one day you also cannot turn back...why??? Fall to deep liao.
I am in no position to interfere but can only advise.....if that day comes, it will not end in a humane way & it's gonna be the most painful depature of your life....and worst of all, you have no say or control on it...like an animal on the chopping board....it's very very very painful.....no breakup, no death, nothing ever can hurt this much.....TRUST ME

But worst of all, after this, you will never be your old self again, you have been scarred for life and thus, a new you will appear.

[azzaro23]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

You see, here's the problem. Many tahan and go wif the flow but in time, they actually fall for it. That's when the stuffs gets deeper. She does something wrong, wierd, suspiciouus but you make yourself accept her explaination blah blah.....keeps going on one day you also cannot turn back...why??? Fall to deep liao.
I am in no position to interfere but can only advise.....if that day comes, it will not end in a humane way & it's gonna be the most painful depature of your life....and worst of all, you have no say or control on it...like an animal on the chopping board....it's very very very painful.....no breakup, no death, nothing ever can hurt this much.....TRUST ME

But worst of all, after this, you will never be your old self again, you have been scarred for life and thus, a new you will appear.

Well if that happens, I cant blame no one but myself from walking this path. At least I know in the future i have once fought for my pursuit of happiness no complaints ab it.

If I chose to give up even with fighting for it, when I am old sitting on the porch pounding on my chest for letting this small speck of pursuit happiness slip away. This in my own view I cant accept it.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by azzaro23

Well if that happens, I cant blame no one but myself from walking this path. At least I know in the future i have once fought for my pursuit of happiness no complaints ab it.

If I chose to give up even with fighting for it, when I am old sitting on the porch pounding on my chest for letting this small speck of pursuit happiness slip away. This in my own view I cant accept it.

Well, you have decided so actually this post wasn't necessary........
All the best & may the force be wif you....hehehehe

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by azzaro23

Well if that happens, I cant blame no one but myself from walking this path. At least I know in the future i have once fought for my pursuit of happiness no complaints ab it.

If I chose to give up even with fighting for it, when I am old sitting on the porch pounding on my chest for letting this small speck of pursuit happiness slip away. This in my own view I cant accept it.

Okay... no regrets then. But please ask yourself if you are doing this for BOTH of YOU or just yourself..

Makes a world of a difference.

[azzaro23]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Well, you have decided so actually this post wasn't necessary........
All the best & may the force be wif you....hehehehe

well I have sort of decided but still need to seek advice from ppl, u can't expect me to go in blind as a bat & knocking into every wall i see right? that is suicide! I may be a smitten love fool but not a person who lost totally his mind.

[aczeta76]

My GF does... she will call me for most things to discuss... and update me

[rebeldevil]

Hi all bros, haiz...yet another love stricken fool reporting to this thread, Although my situation has not developed as deeply as bro azzaro & aczeta. Reading thru bro azzaro's posts is like reading a photocopy of d exact same thgts n emotions dat is going thru my mind rite now.

Nvr have i imagined myself in tis situation, dat its only a few mths ago in another thread talking abt true love in ktvs dat i zapped some1 calling him a carrot 4 talking such nonsense, haha how d times have changed. If possible really hope 2 lim kopi wif u guys n have a gd chat coz frankly i'm @ a total loss of wat 2 do..my regular cheong buddies know of my feelings n being seasoned cheongsters, their advise is all d same 欢乐场所无真情！

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by rebeldevil

Hi all bros, haiz...yet another love stricken fool reporting to this thread, Although my situation has not developed as deeply as bro azzaro & aczeta. Reading thru bro azzaro's posts is like reading a photocopy of d exact same thgts n emotions dat is going thru my mind rite now.

Nvr have i imagined myself in tis situation, dat its only a few mths ago in another thread talking abt true love in ktvs dat i zapped some1 calling him a carrot 4 talking such nonsense, haha how d times have changed. If possible really hope 2 lim kopi wif u guys n have a gd chat coz frankly i'm @ a total loss of wat 2 do..my regular cheong buddies know of my feelings n being seasoned cheongsters, their advise is all d same 欢乐场所无真情！

Bro... share your thoughts if it will help u feel better.

Before I met HER, I was also like that... meeting her made it different and now I am giving it a shot...

No coloured glasses, no false hopes, juz decent hard work trying to make the relationship work (IF she feels the same)

Dun bottle things up

[rebeldevil]

Tks bro aczeta, will think abt it, coz its hard 2 share d story w/o revealing sensitive info such as d place she works. Neways its gonna b a long story if i were 2 share it wif all d bros here (man i hate typing!). D most annoying part is i'm having an exam in a wk or so n i just cant focus 2 get started on studying.

[azzaro23]

Originally Posted by rebeldevil

Hi all bros, haiz...yet another love stricken fool reporting to this thread, Although my situation has not developed as deeply as bro azzaro & aczeta. Reading thru bro azzaro's posts is like reading a photocopy of d exact same thgts n emotions dat is going thru my mind rite now.

Nvr have i imagined myself in tis situation, dat its only a few mths ago in another thread talking abt true love in ktvs dat i zapped some1 calling him a carrot 4 talking such nonsense, haha how d times have changed. If possible really hope 2 lim kopi wif u guys n have a gd chat coz frankly i'm @ a total loss of wat 2 do..my regular cheong buddies know of my feelings n being seasoned cheongsters, their advise is all d same 欢乐场所无真情！

no problem bro we can always arrange with bro aczeta if you need someone to talk to... we can always pop by GL, good place for cheap beer & good place to sit & talk at one of the alleys... got another reason to go see my GF... hehe

[aczeta76]

Errh... I dun drink bear, only coffee, tea and wine

Also, I low profile man so u guys enjoy hoh

[porscheclub]

Hello guys.

I'm in more or less the same shit. Except that my story has a little twist.

I met this Dalian gal early this year & over the pass 5 months, we became a pair of yuanyang. She's a singer in a high class KTV & when we met, she's just 3 months into this scene or so she said. She does not sell (I've checked on it) & since she's just about 20 then, she's pretty green in this trade. She's got quite a temper to match as well & she's known to have walked out on a few customers who got touchy with her. Somehow.....we clicked, maybe it was love @ first sight.

I'm a reasonably seasoned cheongster & retired for several years. I had a serious relationship with a hostess before in my younger days as well.

She's very different from any PRCs I've known to date & no bullshit. She was trained as a gymnast since 7 and represented China a few times. She's also performed in a few countries before. I've seen those pictures of her since young but they pay her very little to support the family. She's completed pre university but her single working mother fell ill & couldn't support her through (same old story) university & her brother has gone to Korea to study for a degree on an exchange program. So, she's got to li-xiangbei jing to work & support the family. (I've spoken to her mum a few times since & even met her on webcam)

I've spent a great deal of effort & money to keep this relationship.

She calls me laogong. I got her a room in a serviced apartment for ourselves as hotel rooms & F/B became a mounting affair & pretty dangerous to get spotted. Life was a dream, our sex life was simply fantastic (some of you may have read my encounters). She'll wake up early to visit wet market, cook dinner for us & we'll go shopping/visits whenever I'm free. She's quite an amazing cook & often whipped up several restaurant grade food. In fact, we thought of opening a little eatery so she can support herself. I gave her an ATM card with controlled funds & we also went on two memorable holidays.

And because of "loving" me, she lost many potential clients & earn "very little" compared to her colleagues. There were a few times she actually paid for my bills like dinner & even KTV (few hundred bucks) Well, actually I tested her & she'll always do her best to help me save money every now & then. And so, we got closer & closer. I lavished her with some gifts over the period & she bought me some presents as well. She plans to marry me & introduced her school friends & relatives to me.

She gave up her job recently as she's tired of the nightlife & since I "bao" her & though not a lot, it's still a few S$Ks a month as I need to get her a place to stay, feed, cloth her, work permit & money to her mum/bro's school fees (told the bro to find a job during school holidays to ease my pain). She willingly downgraded to a HDB flat & we planned to rent the other rooms to other gals to collect some rental. I'll send her to learn English etc. All sounds a dream yeah?

Well, except I'm married with kids! Yes, shame on me but what to do? Cupid came & shot me again

Recently my OC found out about my little kingdom but luckily she didn't know what exactly happened but the week was one of the darkest hours..... An advice to bros. NEVER use your credit card bills for hotel rooms, restaurants, bars etc & if you must use, make sure you have valid witnesses/reasons!

Thank goodness my gal's back in China now & my life's back to normal while she's waiting for my "work permit" to re-enter again. I love her (idiot me) & we comm every day via skype etc. However, I'm scared shit that if I do get discovered again & it'll be hell. I'll not divorce now or perhaps never. I've heard a lot of stories about mistresses & I always preached people never to keep but to have ONSes but now I'm in the same mudpool. My gal said she'll wait for me for 8 years & if I don't give her an answer then, at least she has 2 more years to find a husband before she turns old & worthless.

Oh yes, & did I forget to mention that she wants a flat for her & mum? (this costs about S$200K now) As they've been staying with a relative in a very small old apartment. Her bedroom is slightly bigger than our HDB bombshelter. I told her that's a distant dream but I must have a name in it since it's investment. Anyway, I have no money now & she says she can wait for a few years for "our home".

Well, one thing's for sure. She's a fairly talented young gal (has her blog etc), she's been faithful & honest with me all this while. She's mellowed a lot since knowing me. She's lead a simple life since young & never lavished with luxuries until she met me but she's fairly influenced by the worldly things. I'm probably a Robert but we do have feelings for each other & she did sacificed for us as well.

Let's see what happens....

[Mr.romantic]

Originally Posted by porscheclub

I've spent a great deal of effort & money to keep this relationship.

this is precisely why you cannot bear to give this girl up. cutting losses is painful as you invested much.

Originally Posted by porscheclub

Well, except I'm married with kids! Yes, shame on me but what to do? Cupid came & shot me again

Recently my OC found out about my little kingdom but luckily she didn't know what exactly happened but the week was one of the darkest hours..... An advice to bros. NEVER use your credit card bills for hotel rooms, restaurants, bars etc & if you must use, make sure you have valid witnesses/reasons!

Thank goodness my gal's back in China now & my life's back to normal while she's waiting for my "work permit" to re-enter again. I love her (idiot me) & we comm every day via skype etc. However, I'm scared shit that if I do get discovered again & it'll be hell. I'll not divorce now or perhaps never. I've heard a lot of stories about mistresses & I always preached people never to keep but to have ONSes but now I'm in the same mudpool. My gal said she'll wait for me for 8 years & if I don't give her an answer then, at least she has 2 more years to find a husband before she turns old & worthless.

well i can only say you are putting your marriage on the line by continuing the affair.

i will ask myself these questions over a million times if i want to do something like what you are doing. no matter what reasons you have for falling for a PRC girl or any girl from any nationality.

1) do you cherish your wife and kids more or the PRC girl?
2) how are you going to face relatives and friends when they found out about this?
3) are you prepared to face the infamous women's charter when a divorce happens? you might be crippled financially for all your hard work over the years.
4) what is your future with this woman when the world is against you. remember that you are the "sinner" in the eyes of the law and closed ones.

the answer is easy for me when i put them in point form and ponder over it. not sure what is yours? i only know that i will put the well being of family as priority because i want to be a responsible man and still have credibilty amongst relatives and friends. 你可以骗全世界。可是不要自己骗自己。

[colins]

bro porscheclub, my sympathies to you. Its sad to belong to someone else when the right one comes along, remember the song?

Before you really proceed to see what else would come along, like to share with you that I have a friend who is similar to you. His wife found out, went to the in-laws, both his mother and wife wanted to commit suicide. Suddenly, his dad's lashing became his only consolation as it was the best possible ordeal compared to the suicidal pair. The kids, innocent as they are, dun know what the hell happened to the family but they will remember that few weeks until they die.

Yes, men usually dun imagine consequences until they happen. Men dun learn from future problems as well. But the thing is, are you happy the way things are or the way things were before your Chinese singer gf? Woman like to say that we're cheap, we go outside and see the world and chanced to live out our fantasy secretly. But I think they're wrong, I believe men is cheap becos we also want to live out the hell knowing that it will most definately come, and hurt everybody else who is innocent.

I saw on the news yesterday that a muslim court judge decided to hold a decision to allow a 57 year-old man marry a fourth wife. The judge said that with his 1600RM income, he couldnt possibly provide enough for his wives and 16 children. He also asked his present 3 wives that how is it that they can still support his taking of a fourth wife and dun they love him enough to be possessive? But hey, his family supports him what, the new wife is already in the house and becoming fast friends with the rest of the chain gang.

But come on, we know that past great businessmen married more than once. They can do it becos they can provide! In other words, they can maintain that stability and ensures that no one is hurt (badly). While the society is different nowadays, the common thing among the same scenario in today's context is consequence. If you can ensure your taking of a mistress doesnt affect and even get accept into your life, then bloody hell do it. But if someone in the household turns suicidal not for a fourth wife but for a slight intention to get a gf, there's nothing wrong with your family but there's really something seriously wrong with you!

Of cos, I'm just referring to my friend. Just hope that you're a wiser person. I just think that the 'see what happens next' attitude is beginning to sound very close to my friend's last words.

[aczeta76]

Bro porcheclub

Being married throws a spanner into the whole eqn.

Even for me, I am using this trip to gauge how far our relationship should go as I dun want things to get ultra deep for both of us before we are certain of our feelings for each other.

Like bros in many threads have posted before.. $$ can be earned back but the emotional hurt done will scar u for life