Boh-moh, Black Magic & Spells Etc

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

. He regretted what he had done in the past. I shall not elaborate. He even told me hes prepared to face any kind of punishment (for his past sins) in this world rather than hereafter. Last time i heard his leg was amputated.

Whatever punishment he got, I believe it would be a fair one. Deities, be it taoist side or Shamanism side or Anyside, any religious one, I believe that they are very fair when it comes to punishment and rewards.

your this friend could have gotten away lightly liao. Amputated only one leg. It could be he is given a chance to do good deeds to redeem himself. Not for me to say more than this, as his master/deity would preside over it.

Yes, you are right, he is smart to rather face punishment now than later. And with a human body, he may be given a chance to do good to redeem himself for lighter punishment later.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by aceshigh

I read one of his thread he got permission from dua li ya pek for wearing the costume for some meditation purpose.
Thats y i say 各门各法... What we know n see in sg is really different. This man oso knows it thats why he wan to exchange pointers.

As long as he does good, and follow dua di ya peh instructions to help others, he will be ok. I know they help these Ki tong to tide thru their problems or even death. Personally know a few where they managed to escape death by a thin margin, due to doing work for the deities n do good deeds.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

As what my friend told me if one wishes to dabble with the spirits one must have a firm grip of the unknown. Preferably have a trusted Master or Guru.

Sorry to say that not all people are able to have affinity with a trusted Guru or master. Those who met a good Guru or master this life may had done alot of good deeds or practice in their previous lives to encounter one this life.

It would be good to know one, to ask for help when necessary, but not "try to learn" from them if you are not fated to be doing such. According to one of the masters I know, he said that, by "helping" others, you may have to share some of their burden as well. Thats why some take a red packet for luck, some had protection n due to their practice, they have guardian spirits protecting.

Some masters may not in verse in other type of sorcery, and u need help from other masters.

Thats why i suggest that if you run into some problems in such things, best is to pray for help first. The deities will try to assess the problem and arrange for help "some how". Just like different illness needs different doctors. Dont blindly follow one master and he cant really do it, then blame him for being weak.

Open your eyes to the wider world. There are many types of such magic by many different cultures. But all of the masters taught everyone to do good. Those who abuse, harm others, they will pay for sure.

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Open your eyes to the wider world. There are many types of such magic by many different cultures. But all of the masters taught everyone to do good. Those who abuse, harm others, they will pay for sure.

Very true. Do good deed and u will be rewarded. Do evil deed be prepared for the consequences in later life. U reap what u sow.

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by naemlo

BTW who invented this device to detect supernatural present? How he knows the method or frequency used??

Anyway no point arguing this...

I am afraid i dont have answers for that. Maybe u can go google? But do remember we have 5 senses. We may not be able to see spirits with our naked eyes. But the other 4 senses may help us. Of course one cant simply jump to conclusion that everything we hear are supernatural stuffs. There are other ways and means to determine whether such stuffs are around us. But i will not elaborate further.

[nitecrawllerr]

So, you’re a hunter of… ghosts? In Sabah, ghosthunting is a popular hobby
[The Malay Mail Online]
By JULIA CHAN
The Malay Mail Online
26 June 2016


Ghost hunters in Sabah explore abandoned buildings, grave yards and historical sites among others to look for spirits that may be dwelling there. — Picture courtesy of Sabah Underground Paranormal.

KOTA KINABALU, June 26 — A former military ranger, a primary school teacher, an ustaz, an office clerk and an insurance salesman — all wearing black — meet up several times a month just before midnight and after a hushed discussion, drive off together towards some abandoned building or other.

It may seem highly suspicious but this crew — and quite a few others like theirs — is just part of a growing group of paranormal enthusiasts of all faiths and walks of life, joined by their shared passion and the many ghost stories found in Sabah.

A quick search on the internet yields at least eight such groups in the state; their activities range from the simple sharing of personal ghostly experiences to outings which “summon” spirits from the netherworld.

They join the league of thousands of societies around the world dedicated to seeking out the paranormal.

“There are so many now, can’t really keep track of how many people are involved. Everyone has their own group and some have split off from their old groups to form their own crew but it has definitely grown over the last few years,” said Jamal Saran, the founder of Sabah Underground Paranormal, one of the first few groups that started ghosthunting as a hobby.

“I first started doing this on my own, dragging some friends along. Eventually it sprouted into a Facebook group and we now have new people joining our outings all the time,” said the 26-year-old Tawau-born Jamal, a former army ranger who now runs his own cafe.

The Sabah Underground Paranormal Facebook page has a following of some 27,000 people now although only a handful are active members who go out ghosthunting.

The group’s activities usually centre around outings — midnight trips where the crew, usually including a designated cameraman and a holy man, visit a predetermined haunted site – to old buildings, graveyards, schools, houses and even sacred sites.

Ghosthunting 101

The ultimate goal of most ghosthunters is to capture their subject on camera.


The Borneo Paranormal group presents offerings to ghosts in the hopes of appeasing them to appear on camera. — Picture courtesy of Sabah Underground Paranormal.

Before the “hunt”, a lot of preparation needs to be done beforehand. This includes reading up on the history of the site, interviewing those living nearby or the village chief if possible, and a recce during the day to take note of potential hazards.

Some “safety measures” are taken: everyone needs to wear shoes and clothes which allow for easy movement, everyone also has to carry their own torch and walkie talkies are used when they need to split up.

Once they get to a site, everyone says a prayer, according to their own religion, before they go in.

“These trips are kept small on purpose, 12 people maximum, and then they break into smaller groups of three. You want to maintain some scare factor. Too big, and it is no longer scary and no ghosts will appear. Too small, and it’s uncomfortable,” said Jamal.

The ghosthunters take in the sights, sounds, energy of a place and set up cameras. Depending on the group, some people leave one volunteer behind with the video cameras rolling in the hopes that it will attract a ghost to appear on camera.

Parabolic voice recorders are also used to capture sound waves and night vision cameras are optional.

The Borneo Ghost Hunters Paranormal group is one of the few who attempt to call spirits out with offerings.

“We present them with offerings of seven things of different colours – like raw eggs, joss sticks and flowers, then we say a prayer to call them out in Jawi,” said Rose Hamid, the leader of the group.

The offerings apparently increase chances of seeing a spirit, but not everyone agrees with the practice of summoning or calling the spirits out as some say it is against their religious beliefs.

Ghosthunters are also expected to abide by normal “etiquette” — no loud talking, clowning around or general bad behaviour. Also, no kids are allowed.

“You should ideally be spiritually strong so that spirits don’t possess you. We have had an instance before where one of our group member’s arm was possessed. It was only her arm that was taken over and we had the ustaz in our group drive it out,” said Jamal.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hunter-gho...028.html?nhp=1

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

I am afraid i dont have answers for that. Maybe u can go google? But do remember we have 5 senses. We may not be able to see spirits with our naked eyes. But the other 4 senses may help us.

This is a friendly debating on supernatural and I am not trying to go against your belief but your argument a bit difficult for me to swallow.... Which 4 senses?? hear, touch, smell, or taste? It is very difficult for me to taste spirit.

[S.B.Y.1]

Originally Posted by naemlo

It is very difficult for me to taste spirit.

Try this spirit instead

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by naemlo

This is a friendly debating on supernatural and I am not trying to go against your belief but your argument a bit difficult for me to swallow.... Which 4 senses?? hear, touch, smell, or taste? It is very difficult for me to taste spirit.

U also must use some common sense lah. One can also see, hear or smell supernatural stuff mah.

[nitecrawllerr]

[QUOTE=S.B.Y.1;14772337]Try this spirit instead

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Lol! This spirit good stuff too.]

[naemlo]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

But do remember we have 5 senses. We may not be able to see spirits with our naked eyes. But the other 4 senses may help us.

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

U also must use some common sense lah. One can also see, hear or smell supernatural stuff mah.

U now prata man?? your 1st statement mentioned other 4 senses, so I followed what u mentioned but now u told me use 3 senses, "see, hear, smell"BTW if u are into this supernatural then common sense is out of topic. If can use common sense then this is not supernatural.

Most ppl will say, a lot of black magic in Indo, Thai, Cam.... I have been staying in these countries for about 10 yrs... what I have not seen? Maybe u can argue, I good boy always stay at home or office.

Tell u another story, I participated in a "ghost" TV show in Thailand... They brought me to a so called haunted house n put me alone in the room for the night. End of the day, mine was not shown in the TV cause nothing happened. It is all in the mind... a lot of the participants once hear a sound or feel wind, they will scream.... this is what the tv show wants....As mentioned before media is the biggest culprit in promoting all these supernatural and superstitious.

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by naemlo

U now prata man?? your 1st statement mentioned other 4 senses, so I followed what u mentioned but now u told me use 3 senses, "see, hear, smell"BTW if u are into this supernatural then common sense is out of topic. If can use common sense then this is not supernatural.

Most ppl will say, a lot of black magic in Indo, Thai, Cam.... I have been staying in these countries for about 10 yrs... what I have not seen? Maybe u can argue, I good boy always stay at home or office.

Tell u another story, I participated in a "ghost" TV show in Thailand... They brought me to a so called haunted house n put me alone in the room for the night. End of the day, mine was not shown in the TV cause nothing happened. It is all in the mind... a lot of the participants once hear a sound or feel wind, they will scream.... this is what the tv show wants....As mentioned before media is the biggest culprit in promoting all these supernatural and superstitious.

Uncle Aaron will say yr yang very strong, so cannot see.

If you screamed like a baby n claim to see ghosts, you'll b invited back to a 'haunted' hospital. Wasted la
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Lying that you see ghosts is how some ppl prefer to live their lives. As pointless as exchanging points

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

U also must use some common sense lah. One can also see, hear or smell supernatural stuff mah.

HAHAHA!!!!!!

buay pai seh! Buay kialang dulan!

It's obvious you got NO common sense whatsoever.

There's no bs ghost you don't believe in.
In fact all the scammers don't need to put any effort to con u cos u con yourself even more!
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Exchange points got common sense meh?

[Zapzaplah]

Originally Posted by naemlo

U now prata man?? your 1st statement mentioned other 4 senses, so I followed what u mentioned but now u told me use 3 senses, "see, hear, smell"BTW if u are into this supernatural then common sense is out of topic. If can use common sense then this is not supernatural.

Most ppl will say, a lot of black magic in Indo, Thai, Cam.... I have been staying in these countries for about 10 yrs... what I have not seen? Maybe u can argue, I good boy always stay at home or office.

Tell u another story, I participated in a "ghost" TV show in Thailand... They brought me to a so called haunted house n put me alone in the room for the night. End of the day, mine was not shown in the TV cause nothing happened. It is all in the mind... a lot of the participants once hear a sound or feel wind, they will scream.... this is what the tv show wants....As mentioned before media is the biggest culprit in promoting all these supernatural and superstitious.

he is not a prata man, what he was trying to put across to you is a human more or less can FEEL & sense the surrounding area with our senses lah, more or less lah ok.

[Zapzaplah]

Originally Posted by naemlo

Tell u another story, I participated in a "ghost" TV show in Thailand... They brought me to a so called haunted house n put me alone in the room for the night. End of the day, mine was not shown in the TV cause nothing happened. It is all in the mind... a lot of the participants once hear a sound or feel wind, they will scream.... this is what the tv show wants....As mentioned before media is the biggest culprit in promoting all these supernatural and superstitious.

If you put things in this manner then am i right to say all temples, churches, mosques, monks, priests and devotees are silly blind followers ?


It is that you just didn't have a chance to bump into those wild spirits therefore you don't believe such things exists !