Price Difference for Girls, Are we Paying PREMIUM to GIRL or OKT???

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by trax

Personally, i felt you failed to understand my and some of the others point as well. Lets try to see from each other's POV. This IS a good discussion. Lets make it a healthy one and and not resort to personal attacks.

You are/may be right to say the OKT tells lies about having to pay more to bring certain girls in. I'm not one, so i dont know. But seriously, even if this OKT is telling lies to his customers, what matters to him at the end of the day is he gets food on his table to feed his family. Businessmen do whatever they need (both morally right or wrong) to achieve their objectives, whatever they may be. Agree?


Rest my case. Cheers.

You are not wrong in your way of saying. A lot of businessmen lie in order to reach their objective. There is this saying, you want to lie, make sure you cover it well and don't get caught. Don't think you are smart and hoodwink people. If you get caught, don't blame the person who caught you but blame yourself for being stupid for not covering your lies well.

It's just like TT Durai. If he was never caught, in the eyes of the public, he is still a morally right person.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by astrozz

Bro raolvii, this is going nowhere dont you agree ? Lets put an end to it wat say you ?
It seems to me that you were 'cheated' by some OKTs thus you want to 'highlight' to bros here ....apparently not everyone agrees with what you said and I seriously dont see a point in this arguement.
Lets drop this matter and move on shall we ?
cheers

Trust me for once. This will go somewhere.

Dropping this matter and moving on will only indulge this kind of OKT in becoming more yayapapaya. Some others are becoming more arrogant and think they are way above the law. They really think BO CHENG HU. We shall see

[peterparker89]

now sg, geylang is like mini UN, simi nationality also have. got fishtank, got fierce unlicensed okt pestering, got prc meh meh chase u with their neh neh, got indo, got pinas, simi lj also have. The best part? CHEAP!!!

no need to go thru the pros and cons again. but just want to tell ts that maybe it's best u budget ur bonk ba. rather then create all this hooha.

if u really are seasoned chiongster, u wun be so petty la...
if u really are seasoned chiongster, u will know to take everything with a pinch of salt *sprinkle sprinkle, pinch pinch*
if u really are seasoned chiongster, u will spend ur time bonking rather then cum here kpkb...

ok la, dun angry la, i reply because i very irritated la. but then again, everyone's entitled to their opinions hor...

pp89

[okietokie]

..........Zap me to negative also nevermind. There will be more raoulviii, xi, x, xvii, coming up. You can shut me up in online forum. Nevermind. I can just give a phonecall to someone. We see who more garang. ..........

Hi Bro Raoulvii,

I fully understand and empathise your kind thoughts and trying to like us know your intention. I do believe somehow, you may have been cheated before and i am certain, a lot of us got blinded or cheated too.

Basically your objective is to "educate us" or "highlight" to us and i believe some of us appreciate and hopefully with the OKT seeing this thread, they could be more careful and rightful. We need OKTs and OKTs need us .....
So lets not bring in resolution as what you have quoted above !! Whats the point !!! (READ IN BETWEEN THE WORDs)

Looking at the thread, i respect you courage in the whole episode !!!!! But i am certain you mean no harm but wish to express and share your feelings, experience and knowledge.

Lets buried this and let it off la !!!

Cheers

[Midnightiger]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

I didn't accuse you of any misdoings. I am only stating the truth that you are an OKT. You can do your girls, up to you. But you do not belong to this category of errant OKT yet.

Everything I said here is the truth. If there are people here who believe you are not an OKT, you can try hoodwink them further. Tiger.

You want to put your money where your mouth is?

I let you choose 10 bros for them to investigate, interrogate or whatever on the FLs that I have promoted here. Some of them have already fallen out with me so don't worry, they won't try to cover up for me. On the contrary, they might even want to sabotage me.

And if the investigations come to the conclusion that I'm their OKT, tell me what you want. But what if they come to the conclusion that I'm not?

Everything you said is the truth... my foot.

Trust me for once. This will go somewhere.

Trust you for once??? LOL! What a joke!

[famous.c]

Raoulvii..
Im willing to pay. And i dun mind the money spent given mostly to the OKT.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by okietokie

Hi Bro Raoulvii,

I fully understand and empathise your kind thoughts and trying to like us know your intention. I do believe somehow, you may have been cheated before and i am certain, a lot of us got blinded or cheated too.

Basically your objective is to "educate us" or "highlight" to us and i believe some of us appreciate and hopefully with the OKT seeing this thread, they could be more careful and rightful. We need OKTs and OKTs need us .....
So lets not bring in resolution as what you have quoted above !! Whats the point !!! (READ IN BETWEEN THE WORDs)

Looking at the thread, i respect you courage in the whole episode !!!!! But i am certain you mean no harm but wish to express and share your feelings, experience and knowledge.

Lets buried this and let it off la !!!

Cheers

Among all who replied. Yours is the only one I find unbiased and most rational among the rest.
You may think I meant no harm, but to others they will think I am jeopardising their business. There is someone who even asked me why I didn't mention the OKT's nick. There were a couple of posts where I said in response to the OKT's answer that he has various costs such as runner. I mentioned about his bullshit reason in the post, the post got deleted.

So if I really do mention the OKT's nick here, will the moderators guarantee that they wouldn't delete this thread? Anyway, I don't wish to make things difficult for the mods. Because this OKT also sponsored this forum. If I pressure the mod, the OKT pressure the mod to take action, the mod will be poor thing. So I keep it as status quo and from the looks of it by reading, you guys can roughly guess who I am mentioning.

[infinitiumus]

Basically with the price setting and if the quality does not match the price - very soon customers will be running away.

I for one has cut down a lot on thais in recent years because quality has dropped and price has increased. It is really difficult to find OKTs that give us good and premium quality - I don't mind paying for quality but not $150/$200 for someone I wouldnt even think of f... even if given free.

But I must say a couple of points:

a) Live-picture is better than studio ones. I have seen studio pictures vs the actual person. Yes, it is not a fake photo but still the difference can be too-shocking. I will support OKTs with live picture (recent) of face, body, full-length etc etc.

b) FRs - there are a lot of fake FRs. And basically people don't publish enough of bad FRs and you can't really rely on FRs.

So with these two not reliable, what we rely on is really tikam and try to stick to regular and trusted OKT. Then again, there is no guarantee as well as even your regular and trusted OKTs cannot guarantee..

So sometimes it is good to go to HC or GL or even PRC by the road-side - at least you get to see them in flesh.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by Midnightiger

You want to put your money where your mouth is?

I let you choose 10 bros for them to investigate, interrogate or whatever on the FLs that I have promoted here. Some of them have already fallen out with me so don't worry, they won't try to cover up for me. On the contrary, they might even want to sabotage me.

And if the investigations come to the conclusion that I'm their OKT, tell me what you want. But what if they come to the conclusion that I'm not?

Everything you said is the truth... my foot.


Trust you for once??? LOL! What a joke!

Already it is not a secret that you are thaivisitor. This info comes from the FLs that you promoted before and they are now back in Thailand. Not one but a couple of them who said this. I already said you are OKT or not, I don't care. This thread's major highlight is not talking on you. But if you persistently wants an answer, your turn will come when I finish this issue. How about that? You willing to wait or not? This thread is talking about paying premium to OKT. You have not done premium stuff yet, so you are not in the picture.

As for what I said is the truth or not, people around you knows best.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by infinitiumus

b) FRs - there are a lot of fake FRs. And basically people don't publish enough of bad FRs and you can't really rely on FRs.

Sidetrack abit on this issue, since you talk about it.

Reasons why there are a lot of fake FRs is because of kickbacks in the form of discounts. With greater discounts comes even more fake frs. (sounds like the spidey phrase)

Why do samsters write fake frs? The only reason besides money, the other is online intimidation. They book with their nicks, they book with their number. When they write a bad fr, they get banned so-called even from other stables as other OKTs do not dare to take their honesty. In the end, they can't even get to book other girls. They get zapped away their hard-earned points and might even reach negative levels. When a nick reached negative, its very hard for him to get contacts even if he is a genuine cheongster.

Why do samsters write fake frs? They write fake beautiful frs to curry favour their favourite OKT, so as more girls come, they get more priority as OKTs love samsters who can pen frs. So that they do not need to create extra clone nick and think of story to pen down. The samster also get more kickbacks. Just like earlier how one samster mentioned he only get to pay $99 instead of $170. Tell us kumcheng between him and OKT, full of crap. Kickback means kickback. Still have to think of beautiful reason.

[fontirak]

I hope this is not a case of the thread starter trying to get the last word every time someone replies to this thread. Everybody in this forum KNOWS NOW that some OKT lies. OK we get it. But is this going to stop us to from going to FL? NO. Most of the guys here don't even ask the OKT why they charge $150 to $170 when others just charge $120. If you think it's not worth it then go to those that charges $120. As for camera, thaiboy always have live pics for his girls so if ppl still wanna try those without live pics it's their choice. Again supply/demand determines this. I hope you understand what is our POV. We are not noble like you who thinks so much. Most of us just fuck and forget.

[jackjack__1]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

But don't come and tell us your sob story and think we are 3 year old idiots. To those who still think this OKT is like a holy godfather to you, you all are just pawns to him. Pawns in giving him business, pawns in helping him write fake frs to deceive other samsters, pawns in helping him to zap me to negative to shut my mouth up. Even if I negative, i will still post.

raoulvii, i do know what you are driving at fighting for all the unjusts around in this trade.. however, as seen from the replies, it is probably only a minority of ppl who feel like you do.. like i mentioned before, starhub raise their price for sports package for a reason similar to the claims, you mentioned, made by OKTs.. however, the scenario is such that we take it or leave it, if we think they are lying we can choose to drop their services... it applies to this case tool; people are willing to "accept" "lies" for "extorbitant" prices despite your disapproval, i believe there are also ppl like me who disregards starhub's "lies" and continue to subscribe the sports package cos i cannot do without it.. i believe your intention should be educating us.. however, it really seems as thou you are trying to conform us to ur set of thinkings as most replies to this thread opposes your ideals..
i believe if you really wanto educate us, please conduct yourself in the most neutral manner and raise points of discussion most rationally instead of making an aggressive accusations as above which only leads to uncalled for arguments which i do not this is your purpose...
then again, maybe one of your goals is for OKTS to lower their prices.. then maybe you should start a collective demostration instead of going against most ppl here by calling them "OKT clones" "pawns of OKT" etc for that will definitinely prove to be more effective as you will have more clout in terms of the no. of ppl you gathered..

anyway, i do not wish to start an argument with you hence please reply constructively less the insults and falsified claims.. cheers..

Originally Posted by Midnightiger

You want to put your money where your mouth is?

I let you choose 10 bros for them to investigate, interrogate or whatever on the FLs that I have promoted here. Some of them have already fallen out with me so don't worry, they won't try to cover up for me. On the contrary, they might even want to sabotage me.

And if the investigations come to the conclusion that I'm their OKT, tell me what you want. But what if they come to the conclusion that I'm not?

Everything you said is the truth... my foot.

The truth is midnightiger=Thaivisitor!

knn, thaivisitor the famous conman still so sia lan want to challenge people?last time hadyai issue he already cannot settle, use this challenge pattern to ppl, in the end, was being exposed big time!

no need to hide Mr Roger Lim. you haven't even return investor's money yet still wanna come here act hero!please! shameless!

why not ask the hadyai working girls that you pimp before,more than 10 of them and ask whether you got take commission or not.wanna challenge ppl also must piss a pool of urine and take a look at yourself.

Originally Posted by Midnightiger

By the way, I don't think OKTs go round telling everyone on the technicalities of their biz. They didn't tell me anyway. I suppose they didn't tell me cos I'm not one of those who got nothing better to do that to go round asking the OKTs.


You're so sure that the OKTs don't have money to buy a decent digital camera? OR because they don't want to buy?

Wow! you are the classic OKT all the way from hadyai cannot make it thats why return to sg! you know the inner dealings of okt and all the technical details! and talking abt digicam. Thaivisitor is the champion in this!he carrys his trusty camera and nokia phone to take pics last time in hadyai to promote gals and farms who pay him commission.

what an irony indeed now thaivisitor come comment here.

[gl_bob]

Internet OKTs and Geylang OKTs not much difference......

internet =
1. die die everyday must have customers.
2. if no customers = "ice cream day" must "liao-liu" still must pay for hotel money etc.
3. if girl at singapore 1 month never finish tag, also must "liao-liu"


u think those internet okt earn alot ah ?
they must pay cab fare to transport the girls from their own hotel to customer hotels.
for example. okt A sell girl A at $130 exclude room everything.
girl take $80. okt take $50.
cab fare = $20++
agent "water" money = $2 per session. means this $130 must give agent $8
hotel money = $70 for hotel 81 for overnight.
makan money = $10


IF the okt today only get 1 customer for the girl. that means....
$130 - $80 = $50 okt commision
$50 - $20 = $30 cab fare
$30 - $8 = $22 water money
$22 - $10 = $12 makan money
$12 - $70 = -$58 hotel money.

SEE, they still must "liao-liu"

2 Customers.

$260 - $160 = $100 girl money
$100 - $40 = $60 cab fare
$60 - $16 = $34 water money
$34 - $10 = $24 makan money
$24 - $70 = -$46 hotel money

SEE, also must "liao-liu"....

u never realise why okt at geylang all so hard working. because everyone who walk pass is $$$