Tieng Viet lovers club

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by yummyymym

Ban ai voi a uong bia?

I alone just reach JC lah... Sianz...

[Pohchuan]

Originally Posted by yummyymym

E lam j. A Jan e

Can anyone enlighten me on the short form lam j Thanks

Em lam gi. Anh gian em

Malay: Adik buat apa, Abang marah adik

English: what did I do. You angry with me.


Again, the malay translation is literally words for words, sentence structure follows in perfect unison between TV and malay. Bros who study malay can pick up TV rather effortlessly, just memorise words for words.

[yummyymym]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

I alone just reach JC lah... Sianz...

A ko Chan. Tai Sao Mot minh di jc? Ban a o dau?

[Pohchuan]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Great. My one year training in Indon bonk land can finally be out to good usage.

Do you learn colloquial Bahasa Indonesia? If you do, you are a step ahead, if you only learn proper Bahasa Indonesia, well Tieng Viet follow the colloquial structure more actually, so it might be a little different than what you have learned.

Proper conversational malay are somewhat colloquial in nature, so no problem for those bros who has fluency in conversational malay

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by Pohchuan

Do you learn colloquial Bahasa Indonesia? If you do, you are a step ahead, if you only learn proper Bahasa Indonesia, well Tieng Viet follow the colloquial structure more actually, so it might be a little different than what you have learned.

Proper conversational malay are somewhat colloquial in nature, so no problem for those bros who has fluency in conversational malay

Er.... I picked up my Bahasa at the same type of places where I pick up my TV. So, it's very campur cause drink from "taps" made in different places.

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by yummyymym

A ko Chan. Tai Sao Mot minh di jc? Ban a o dau?

Got a shock visit by Ms Karma and am now suffering the after effect. Haiz...

[Pohchuan]

Originally Posted by tomcat007

Er.... I picked up my Bahasa at the same type of places where I pick up my TV. So, it's very campur cause drink from "taps" made in different places.

ok you learn the colloquial one, I think, congrats to you! Now the hard work, do direct words to words translation, sentence structure is the same.

[tomcat007]

Originally Posted by Pohchuan

ok you learn the colloquial one, I think, congrats to you! Now the hard work, do direct words to words translation, sentence structure is the same.

Not sure about that too. But, until you mention it, I didn't notice the similarity in the structure. Thanks.

[Seletar]

Originally Posted by Pohchuan

ok you learn the colloquial one, I think, congrats to you! Now the hard work, do direct words to words translation, sentence structure is the same.

Bro, I know Malay language but the Viet lang we use in sms don't have diacrete, so can it be accurate word for word ? Thanks for reply

[Pohchuan]

Originally Posted by Seletar

Bro, I know Malay language but the Viet lang we use in sms don't have diacrete, so can it be accurate word for word ? Thanks for reply

You need to have those Tieng viet symbols to do direct translations. No short cuts. Those tonal sign as well as various tieng viet vowels are important, they can not be excluded or it loses its meaning amongst myriads of similar spellings.

[Honey Boon]

7th month door not yet open la.... next week Friday

Originally Posted by V|ernar

All my new target can see cannot touch .. Sianz . Plus now 7th month , alot of ghost and devil looking vb wandering around . See Liao must go home wash eye .

[Honey Boon]

now change KC strategy?

Originally Posted by V|ernar

High risk and return not that good .. Maybe just first few times lust and lost a good collection .. Not worth .

[Seletar]

Originally Posted by Pohchuan

You need to have those Tieng viet symbols to do direct translations. No short cuts. Those tonal sign as well as various tieng viet vowels are important, they can not be excluded or it loses its meaning amongst myriads of similar spellings.

Tv is a wonderful language, kumsiahamida.

[jackbl]

The Turtle and the Dragon
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HANOI – We were in a taxi, en route to no place important, when we noticed the crowd gathering on the edge of Hoan Kiem Lake. I had a hunch about what might be attracting so much attention.


“Pull over”, I told the cabbie. My wife said the same in Vietnamese.

We bounded out with our three kids and joined the throng. My older son maneuvered to the water’s edge.

“There he is!” he said.

My hunch was correct. We all got a good look at Cu Rua, or “great grandfather,” the famous, and famously lonely, turtle of Hoan Kiem Lake. He is considered a link to Vietnamese folklore – a descendant of the turtle that presented a long-ago Vietnamese emperor a sword that he used to repel invaders. So it was that the lake known as Ho Guom, or Hoan Kiem, translates as “Lake of the Restored Sword.”

We saw Cu Rua in early 2011, and by then plenty of Hanoians understood why the tortoise, thought to be well over 100 years old, was uncharacteristically keeping his head above water for extended periods. It wasn’t that he wanted to please his many fans. Hanoi’s living legend was ailing and having trouble breathing, suffering from pollution and a habitat damaged by an invasion of red-eared turtles from North America – imported as pets but then released at Tet. These feckless acts are supposed to bring people good luck—but of course it was bad for Cu Rua.

Only a couple months after Hanoi celebrated its 1,000 birthday, the old tortoise – a rare species on the verge of extinction – suddenly and fittingly became a cause célèbre. Experts convened and a plan was ordered to capture and treat Cu Rua, clean up the lake, and rid it of the invaders. Over several following months, the lake was partitioned in phases to execute the clean up.

Everyone is rooting for the beloved old turtle, even though we also know that nothing lasts or lives forever. That is why, as authorities rallied to try to save this one particular animal, part of me thought it was a lost cause. But the fact that nothing lasts forever is also, paradoxically, why we pull for Cu Rua.

This reptile is a symbol of tradition and stability in a rapidly changing nation. The ancient legend of the tortoise, something of a creation myth, has evolved into a living, gasping allegory of modern times. As surely as Cu Rua’s days are numbered, old Vietnam is giving way to a new – a change driven by the powerful forces of a globalizing economy, accelerated by the young Vietnamese passion for rapidly advancing technology. If Cu Rua represented the old ways, then maybe the red-eared turtles are a bit like young Vietnamese putting aside tradition to embrace cell phones, iPads and Facebook.

As the drama surrounding Cu Rua unfolded, I happened to be reading two books: Aesop’s Fables as bedtime stories for the kids, and “Understanding Vietnam” by the American scholar Neil Jameson for my own education. Together Aesop, Jameson, and Cu Rua helped me come up with my own theory for understanding Vietnam.

Jameson invoked the Taoist concept of yin and yang in explaining Vietnamese character and culture. Yin and yang are pretty bland and esoteric compared to Aesop’s vivid tales such as ‘The Tortoise and the Hare’ and ‘The Boy Who Cried Wolf’. So instead of yin and yang, the tale of Cu Rua persuaded me that perhaps Vietnam is better explained by two creatures vital to its folklore: the Turtle and the Dragon.

Think about it. The turtle is tough, slow-moving, secretive, perseverant and above all durable. The dragon, a symbol of luck, is a character of dreams – a bold risk-taker given to flights of fancy. Vietnam is both. Consider the soldiers of the Cu Chi tunnels, hunkering down like turtles in the daytime and then turning into dragons at night, tormenting their enemy – victorious, ultimately, through sheer endurance.

This duality abounds in Vietnam – and it doesn’t hurt that the country’s borders almost seem like a silhouette of a sinewy, S-shaped dragon. The older generation is a tortoise, clinging to old ways, while the dynamic younger generation is more of a dragon. It seems ironic that Hanoi’s old name is Thang Long – “Rising Dragon.” There remains a cultural division between north and south. Compare the capital to Ho Chi Minh City. Which is the tortoise? Which is the dragon? To me, the answer is obvious. Feel free to make your own comparisons.

Unlike Aesop with his fables, I offer no pat moral to the Turtle and the Dragon. Vietnam isn’t that simple. For now, perhaps we should just wish that Cu Rua will get well – to live long and go back into hiding.

[justguy]

"em di chung voi may chi roi anh s"

Any bro can help translate this?
Cant get the translation for "May chi roi"