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[Cummon]

Well, unless they win ALL the remaining games at Anfield ... every trick Rafa try to pull this season will mean nothing.

I will be really delighted if we can get 4 points from our home games against Chelski & MU.
Anyway if we beat Chelski & MU defeat Arse, does that mean we help to handle the title to the Scums ?

[KingEros]

Originally Posted by Cummon

Anyway if we beat Chelski & MU defeat Arse, does that mean we help to handle the title to the Scums ?

How about for the remaining of this season ...
1) Reds beat Chelsea (Jan), Everton (Feb), MU & Arsenal (Mar) at home, as well as beat Portsmouth (Apr) away ...
2) MU drop points against Arsenal (Jan), Spurs (Feb), Portsmouth & Chelsea (Apr), Man City (May) away, as well as drop points against Portsmouth (Jan), Bolton & Blackburn (Mar) at home ...
3) Chelsea drop points against Portsmouth (Mar), Arsenal (May) away, as well as drop points against Blackburn (Jan), Spurs, MU & Bolton (Apr) at home ...
4) Arsenal drop points against Spurs (Apr), Portsmouth (May) away, as well as drop points against MU (Jan), Bolton (Apr), Chelsea (May) at home ...

Now ... you know why it is ALL still mathematically possible??

[rahl]

Originally Posted by KingEros

[B][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]What specific failings?? The man won the FA Cup in his 4 years as boss.
As for the others, only Toshack has achieved something in Spain ... Keegan will always be remembered as the Newcastle manager who threw away the title becoz he succumbed to Ferguson's taunting ... Lee & Thompson is still not good enough to be hired as managers, to this very day!!!

You can do better than quote an article from the official site bro. None of them are critical about any manager and it is understandable the site doesn't want to divide the fans by doing so.

Some better articles on Souness:
http://www.thisisanfield.com/content.php?page_id=93
http://www.lfc4ever.de/id76.htm
http://www.lfcbootroom.net/comment4.htm
http://www.lfchistory.net/managers_p...?manager_id=13

Let's make it simple. I will cite his failings below and you give a list of his successes (bar the FA Cup, which should not be your only case I hope).

Then we can go on and look at the wider context and say which failures/success are due to the man and which made the man. Or else all these general remarks also no use.

Souness' Management
Management: only one style: discipline and more discipline. While this was necessary in light of the drinking culture at Anfield then (and elsewhere), other managers like Houllier and Rafa have inculcated a more disciplined approach without upsetting players and bootroom.

Good players signed or nurtured
Macca
Fowler
Mark Wright
Rob Jones
Jamie Redknapp
David James

The young players flourished particularly under Evans.

Poor players
Julian Dicks
Dean Saunders
Nigel Clough
Torben Piechnik
Istvan Kozma
Paul Stewart

Undecided
Michael Thomas
Neil Ruddock
Mark Walters
Stig Inge Bjornebye

Now the real stuff, results (I mean every manager can sign duds - see Houllier Cheyrou, Diouf, and Diao, and Rafa Josemi and Nando).

League performance
1990/1991 2nd (season end)
1991/1992 6th (full season)
1992/1993 6th (full season)
1993/1994 8th (till January 1994)

Cups
1991/1992 FA Cup winner (beat Sunderland 2-0)
1992/1993 FA Cup defeat by Bolton (home)
1993/1994 FA Cup defeat by Bristol City (home)

Competitive record ( P W D L %) From Wikipedia
Bill Shankly December 1959 July 1974 753 393 185 175 52.19%
Bob Paisley July 1974 May 1983 490 275 124 91 56.12%
Joe Fagan May 1983 May 1985 122 65 34 23 53.28%
Kenny Dalglish May 1985 February 1991 297 180 76 41 60.61%
Ronnie Moran [18] February 1991 April 1991 10 4 1 5 40%
Graeme Souness April 1991 January 1994 157 65 47 45 41.4%
Roy Evans January 1994 July 1998 226 116 57 53 51.33%
Roy Evans and Gérard Houllier [19] July 1998 November 1998 18 7 6 5 38.89%
Gérard Houllier [20] November 1998 May 2004 306 157 75 74 51.31%
Rafael Benítez June 2004 Present 126 72 24 30 56.8%

Full statistics
http://www.lfchistory.net/managers_l...?manager_id=13
Competition P W D L F A %
League 115 47 34 34 164 133 40.87%
FA 13 5 6 2 17 11 38.46%
League Cup 16 7 7 2 38 22 43.75%
Europe 12 6 0 6 26 16 50.00%
Other 1 0 0 1 3 4 0.00%

That's all for now. Let's take it from here.

Gosh half an hour of research makes me realise how crap the official site is!

[rahl]

Dear all

Good piece of news about the investment:

Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry has revealed the takeover of the club by investors from Dubai is almost complete and that a concrete announcement will be made 'relatively soon'.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...399904&cc=4716

[rahl]

Originally Posted by KingEros

[B][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]What specific failings?? The man won the FA Cup in his 4 years as boss.
As for the others, only Toshack has achieved something in Spain ... Keegan will always be remembered as the Newcastle manager who threw away the title becoz he succumbed to Ferguson's taunting ... Lee & Thompson is still not good enough to be hired as managers, to this very day!!!

Another word, bro if you mean the board screwed up by appointing the wrong man, I'm totally in agreement with you. And the club should have gotten rid of Souness way before 1994.

The club also screwed up by appointing Evans and trying to restore the old culture. Although in this case, Evans was a much better manager. Souness was a poor manager under a piss poor board, I will grant you that.

[Frankiestine]

Originally Posted by rahl

The club also screwed up by appointing Evans and trying to restore the old culture. Although in this case, Evans was a much better manager. Souness was a poor manager under a piss poor board, I will grant you that.

Back then Liverpool policy was to turn to old boys or those who were involved in the club for successor...Houllier if not wrong was the very first manager appointed that had no prior connection with the team..

[canthaveenuf]

Originally Posted by KingEros

How about for the remaining of this season ...
1) Reds beat Chelsea (Jan), Everton (Feb), MU & Arsenal (Mar) at home, as well as beat Portsmouth (Apr) away ...
2) MU drop points against Arsenal (Jan), Spurs (Feb), Portsmouth & Chelsea (Apr), Man City (May) away, as well as drop points against Portsmouth (Jan), Bolton & Blackburn (Mar) at home ...
3) Chelsea drop points against Portsmouth (Mar), Arsenal (May) away, as well as drop points against Blackburn (Jan), Spurs, MU & Bolton (Apr) at home ...
4) Arsenal drop points against Spurs (Apr), Portsmouth (May) away, as well as drop points against MU (Jan), Bolton (Apr), Chelsea (May) at home ...

Now ... you know why it is ALL still mathematically possible??

hahahaha bro, you are the eternal optimist lah.

You posted this when sleeping huh?

Let's all hope the above comes true .....

Cheers

[coolfire69]

Originally Posted by canthaveenuf

hahahaha bro, you are the eternal optimist lah.

You posted this when sleeping huh?

Let's all hope the above comes true .....

Cheers

Somehow... I'm also an eternal optimist bro... I'm with Bro KingEros on this too...

[beck7777]

Originally Posted by rahl

Another word, bro if you mean the board screwed up by appointing the wrong man, I'm totally in agreement with you. And the club should have gotten rid of Souness way before 1994.

The club also screwed up by appointing Evans and trying to restore the old culture. Although in this case, Evans was a much better manager. Souness was a poor manager under a piss poor board, I will grant you that.

Roy Evans was not bad a manager, if he had controlled the Spice boy better...

Redknapp was one of the best midfield around that time, can could have gone on to be a Liverpool Great & England great had he not suffered so much injuries..

Same as Fowler.. Think too busy party till his form dropped...

[rahl]

Originally Posted by beck7777

Roy Evans was not bad a manager, if he had controlled the Spice boy better...

Redknapp was one of the best midfield around that time, can could have gone on to be a Liverpool Great & England great had he not suffered so much injuries..

Same as Fowler.. Think too busy party till his form dropped...

Thats true abt Evans but he also had such huge problems with the defense - does anyone remember Phil Babb the record signing for a defender? Or Kvarme?

Of cos years to come and we will look similarly at how much problem Rafa had in signing wide players or even strikers!

On our day, Evans' team can play anyone off the pitch but there were many others when we stank up the pitch and lost 1-0.

[sgbetfor]

At Chelsea, Terry rally his support behind JM. Wonder whether will Gerard do the same for Rafa?

[libraguy75]

Liverpool Vs Chelsea @ HARD ROCK CAFE


DEAR LFC BROS !!


I would like to STRONGLY ENCOURAGE all of you to come down this SAT to HRC to watch the game.

A couple of Straits Times reporters will be covering the game from HRC.

There will also be one covering at blues side.

I appeal to all here to come down and show the Straits Times reporters the power of the RED ARMY !!

We must show SPORE on Sunday Times what huge fan base we have.

This is an open invation to all.

Those of you coming and wan to book a table ( min 4 pax ), please PM me.

I will be on duty this Sat.





!! Libraguy75 aka Lorry Driver aka 2nd GEN LFC FAN !!




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[Cummon]

We do look much more hungry than Chelski this time,let's whack & bury them at Anfield before we move to Stanley Park.

[onion_rings]

Originally Posted by Cummon

We do look much more hungry than Chelski this time,let's whack & bury them at Anfield before we move to Stanley Park.

Yeah let's bring back the "glory" we used to have in Anfield!!!! We can do it!!!!

[rahl]

Kuyt a cool finish, and what a time to score your first goal, Pennant!

2-0 Pool against the Blues at the half.