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13-06-2008, 02:05 AM
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i am 21 and i have been tru my share of relationships with gals..yes and i admit i once step on 2 boats and also had been betrayed before..so i know the feeling of seeing the hurt look on your loved ones and the feeling of being betrayed by the one you love....i dare say my mum din treat my dad badly neither did my aunt to my uncle..my mum even as she has illness wake up early just to iron my dad's clothes for work..worrying him as he come home late and wait for him till he came home..saying that you need someone to care for u when ur old u can talk it out with families..just a simple talk with ur kids..u need comfort from prc?thats all lame reasons to justify your actions and this are actions which can never be condone..seriously when i see married man still eating outside..i feel sorried for their wives..a woman will marry you because she trust you and she love you and yet you betray that very trust and love she gave it to you..seriously i had close friends that had many gfs and one time i seriously feel he is so dirty
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13-06-2008, 02:50 AM
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Give it a few years, you'll know why later.
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13-06-2008, 10:58 AM
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Think Thrice before acting.
If you betrayed your girlfriend before, what makes you think you won't commit the same mistake with your future wife? Why are you holding your Dad to such a high moral standard when you can't even attain it yourself? Be it many GFs or just two timing it is still violation of the principle. You too are a betrayer like Judas. It's typical self-centered thinking, about how wrong YOU feel it is and what YOU can/will/must do. Feel powerful slapping your Dad with a divorce suit?This is not some comic where you don the Punisher suit and start meting out vigilante justice. Have you thought about family finances after a divorce? You claim to know the feeling of betrayal, then picture the look on your mother's face at the moment of truth. Do you understand your mother that well? Is she the type to stick by her husband or will she divorce him immediately on knowing the truth?If she is the type to stick by her husband, you will just be inflicting pain instead of being the "savior". And should they divorce immediately you will be the catalyst of the breakup instead of the PRC girls. You see your mother's "suffering" but do you understand that she does this willingly and out of duty and love? Spousal relationships function in a different way for those born in the 50s/early 60s to those born in late 70s/80s. You seldom see fathers born before late 1960s do housework, kiss their children or proclaim their love. That doesn't mean they do less for the family. Fathers love their children in a different way. When I was younger my father had trysts too, it broke my mother's heart but eventually she decided to stay in the marriage for the sake of me and my siblings. We did what we could to support our mother emotionally, shared her burden of housework. We educated our father on the various schemes of WLs and spent more time with him. This made our family a tighter unit. To this day my parents are still together even though we have grown up and we enjoy our family bliss. There's this Chinese proverb "Fillial piety moves the Heavens". So I ask you Leonard87 do you love your family enough to salvage it or are you hell-bent on destruction? Intelligence is knowing how to do things, wisdom is knowing what to do. People are sharing the wisdom they have gained from their journeys in life or from elders they met. I hope you value the different perspectives given to you in this thread and think it through. Quote:
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13-06-2008, 12:01 PM
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[QUOTE=colins;2827115, no such things as you-think-like-that-means-like-that. Your observation doesn't mean everything that is happening ............................, but dun be quick to make revenge your fundamental right. Your solution (I am referring to PCC) may seem so simple to you, but it is laughable to ask your dad or uncle PCC for all their needs which, in the first place, is not what you think it is.
Give it a few years, you'll know why later.[/QUOTE] It kinds of remind me of my NS years when a specalist ask a recuit why he made a mistake. When he could not ans, the spec comment that behind every things we do there must an underlying reason or motive. I believe that men are not easily satisfy as once you got a Nissan March, you will want a Honda Accord, then BMW 7 series. (After PCC, then look for prostitute, then Affair)
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13-06-2008, 12:39 PM
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Luckily my gf does all that ... the only complain is that she don't do it frequently ... =(
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13-06-2008, 02:07 PM
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 You always think its sex its sex its sex!!! Let me tell you ya ITS NOT ITS NOT ITS NOT!! Having no ethics of your own yet wanting to be the judge of an issue that you cannot even understand. You think you really are matured enough at 21?? You cannot even bear the consequences of a family breakup. You do not understand the pain and torment that it will bring!!! YOu are only aware and selfish for your own personal opinion views and thinking. Anyway I feel that even with all these advice here you will never heed any of them and will only have your own mindset. So be it!! Bros just let him be andsink in his own piss. Let us not be bothered with one who is so confined within his own stereotyped thinking on how the world should be.
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13-06-2008, 03:35 PM
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Young Leonard... Not trying to flaunt my experience/age here... At the age of 21, you should be either serving your NS or maybe in your Uni.. Your duty as a son now is to complete your studies, serve Nation and look for a decent job after that... Until you are financially independent, you can do what ever you like. Who paid for your studies and who paid for tyour shelter...Money don't drop from the sky and remember without your dad, you wouldn't be in this world... In this forum, although we discuss alot about sex, sex and sex... "Occasionally" Samsters here do talk some good sense as well...You need to read between the lines... It helps in building a person's character as well. Think and think hard.. In this world, its not all about yourself and your own opinion... People do things with a reason and not simply do it for the sake of doing... I hated my father when I was in my teens because he was an Alcoholic... he would drink and pist everybody off in my family when he is drunk.. We quarrelled and even fought... I was young and naive like yourself.. Many donkey years later, my father was very ill... Our family was afraid his days were limited... My mum cried every night and we were so heart pained.. Me and my brothers held back our tears and regretted not treating him with respect when he was well and healthy...We dispised him and often quarreled with him not understanding why he likes drinking so much and coming back home pist drunk... Luckily today, he is well and back to his good health... Our attitude towards him really took a 180 dgrees changed and he reciprocated by limiting his alcohol in take and spending most of his time with my mum. Have you ever experienced that kind of feeling of almost losing 1 of your parents?? Have you ever thought of their feelings and understanding their wants?? Alot of replies and advices have been given to you. Its up to you to decide whats your next move and hopefully, you won't regret it one day when he is not around... Not flaming you but just trying to share some life experience with you.
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13-06-2008, 03:50 PM
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13-06-2008, 04:06 PM
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Hi leonard87,
If you had noticed and suspected that your dad is having an affair outside, or visiting PRCs, I believe your mum's woman instincts would have sensed it too. I understand that you are upset because you feel unjust for her. We can tell that you love your mum, but think again, why is she keeping silent, still giving to him and the family, and not confront or have a big fight with him? It's because she loves you, your siblings, and your dad. If she wanted a divorce, she could easily do it. Why still holding on? I would believe that she hopes that your dad would one day understand her efforts, her great love for him. That if one day he falls and is hurt, she would still be the woman behind him. Think about it, would you be hurting your mum and your dad more, if you bring the issue up? As the saying goes, 大人的事让大人去处理. If you really love your mum and wants the best for her, do not interfere with their problem, let them settle it on their own. What you can do however, is to make sure that you will always be there for her, if you find her hiding herself and crying, give her a hug and wipe her tears away. Bring her out for meals, offer to accompany her when she visits the doctor for checkups, volunteer for housework, spend more time with her. By doing this, you are ensuring her that if one day divorce is inevitable, she would not be alone and she can depend on you. Let nature takes its course. As for your dad, I believe that he loves you, your mum and the family too. For all that he has given to the family for so many years, would you still bear to hurt him? Men, especially Dads, do not show their soft and emotional side easily to anyone. And they have their egos. How would he feel if you were to speak of him like that in front of everyone? Spare a thought for your mum and dad. Think about what i've said, if you really love them, do what that is really best for them.
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13-06-2008, 11:30 PM
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14-06-2008, 10:53 AM
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14-06-2008, 11:06 AM
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By the way although PCC is not mentioned in the bible as a sin, lusting for women is so how do you PCC Leonard87? No porn, no pictures? Never wanked to the image of a beautiful woman?If you did u fell to lust like the rest of us. Do you expect your Uncle and Dad to PCC in a non sinful way?The men of Old Testament had multiple wives. Understand this, monogamy was indoctrinated due to influence by the Greco culture's CIVIL LAWS. Can you show me which part of the Bible condemns polygamy? So in essence modern men are being stifled don't you see? Why do some countries with large Christian populations legalise prostitution if its such a horrible sin? Well its because its a NECESSARY evil. Polygamy is not allowed in many countries so where do men vent their sexual energies?If PCC is such a viable alternative why don't you see posters saying "Masturbate not Fornicate". There will be no Geylang and this forum will cease to exist. You say you will stay faithful? Well we shall see then, saying is all so easy. We live in a real world, if it were so easy there would be a lot more saints and we can burn the Confession booths in cathedrals. Calling yourself a Christian/Catholic , going through the motion of the religion, vilifying other sinners like yourself and crying out for forgiveness after a sin; expecting Lord in all His Grace to cleanse you. Well that won't ever redeem you, Mr lingerie thief & two timer. It's not only hypocritical self-assurance but a blatant perversion of the teachings. I zapped you, Little prick.
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14-06-2008, 04:11 PM
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While in many other countries (especially regional), many started to eek out a living the moment they learnt to walk! Translated from Chinese, they started making a living in the society when they were wearing diapers / panties (kai dang ku; have u seen it b4?)! So the maturity levels, life experience between SGP youths & youths overseas are very different. U may have a great education, compared to many youths in other countries, but yr knowledge are only "textbook" theories. If u are so holy, so righteous, why are u still surfing this forum? This forum is more of sharing cheong info & discussions, which u consider "dirty" and very wrong! U are oredi conflicting yrself!!!
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An idle mind is the devil's workshop 一失足成千古恨，回头已是百年身！ Wanna get married, but afraid of losing yr property, yr assets in the event of divorce? Quit SG, dun marry SG gal, yr ass is oso covered!!! Talking Equality wif SG gals is like talking Communism wif Capitalists
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14-06-2008, 05:08 PM
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To be frank, I thought that our young friend is here to seek answers for what he observed as betrayal of marriage. After all this is really the thread where this issue is being discussed. So leonard, if you are prepared to change your thinking, not by me or any individual, but by a common census, then tell us what you think rather than to suffer from prematured obstination.
Maybe one day when our child grows up, they may equally be influenced by the society (and church thinking) to consider us from a mightier-than-thou elevation. Too much morality brainwashing probably gives a person such intolerance, combined with immaturity and lack of exposure, you get someone who doesnt feel the need to empathise. You got to know that there is no such thing as completely right or wrong, everything is relative to our accumulated experience.
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14-06-2008, 06:38 PM
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Let's not bother about the little prick, he'll come round after he experiences first hand of how HDB, CPF and taxes function in Singapore. Then he can come and tell us what he thinks is right or wrong. Let him stand on whatever pedestal he wishes to place himself on. Years later he will realise how ambiguous life is.
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