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Just returned to Sinkapor from Saigon with another great 3 days of super sexperience, courtesy of Bro Sexlegend (again tenkiu for becoming our guide, for the 2nd time).
Tis trip almost mirrorred image of our 1st trip ... Ktv Catwalk & Fortune, Disco Gossip & 97NKMK ... but highlight of the trip is the veri eyes opener bia om experience (our first). Bro SL brought us to D6, cannot remember the actual address but it's along Minh Phuong St (I think). Bia om is realli like the LSB in JB ... dark dark with some veri familiar smell ... but hor, the gers are surprisingly SYT  BBJJ for VND 70K, beer 20K. All six of us sat on the same row, each served by SYT ... ger came, touch touch, unzip, clean didi with wet towel, bbjj till cim Till today, all of us still talking about tis crazy kinda experience ... priceless   .
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Frustrated because I can't find someone today to blow me.
Maybe it is bad karma. To reverse it, here is information copied from another forum, listing all the places in HCMC with a mix of alcohol and women. == HÀNG TOP == +++ Về bar Á: 1. D&D: Chi nhánh công ty TNHH quảng cáo D&D- Dịch vụ nhà hàng ăn uống Mr. Nguyễn Trọng Ngọc 97 Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai, P.Bến Thành, Quận 1 => Vị trí quán quân hiện nay, sau cú chuyển ḿnh thành bar Tây của Calwalk đành nhường lại cho D&D (dân chơi vẫn quen gọi là 97). Cứ tạm gọi đây là bar dành cho dân “xế hộp” hay showroom ô tô cũng được. 2. BB (Buterfly Bar): Công ty TNHH Thương mại nhà hàng Vinh Phú Mr. Quư 96 Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai, Phường 6, Quận 3 => Tưng bừng! Thác loạn! Ảo giác! Lak! Drug! Ecstacy! 3. Palace: Công ty cổ phần Du lịch Sài G̣n So vi co Mr. Huỳnh Văn Tú KS Palace, 56-66 Nguyễn Huệ, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 => Vừa mới sửa chữa lại, tốn nhiều tiền hơn, công sức hơn để…xấu hơn và tệ hơn! 4. Barocco: Công ty TNHH Đầu tư Dịch vụ Thương mại Ba Rô Cô Mr. Phan Tú 264bis Nam Kỳ Khởi Nghĩa, Phường 8, Quận 3, ĐT: 9320192 => Rẻ và không thể “rẻ” hơn! Tự hiểu đi nhé! 5. Gossip: Công ty TNHH Bến Thành Hoàng Thành Mr. Chất 79 Trần Hưng Đạo, P.Cầu Ông Lănh, Quận 1, ĐT: 8242525 => Đă mở lại sau 3 tháng “đóng của sửa chữa, nhằm pv khách hàng tốt hơn”. 6. Liquid (Phương Đông): Công ty TNHH MTV DV DL Bến Thành Mr. Văn Đức 104 Hai Bà Trưng,P.ĐaKao, Quận 1, ĐT: 8225478 => Chẳng biết c̣n tồn tại được thêm bao nhiêu ngày nữa. 7. Lầu 1, ITC, 6 Nguyễn Trung Trực, Q.1 (Wave): => Nên gọi là như vậy bởi chẳng biết gọi ǵ cho đúng nữa. Đổi chủ, đổi GPKD liên tục. Đầu tiên là Blue, cháy chết người, đóng cửa. Rồi mở lại là Light house, rồi thuốc lak, đóng cửa. Mở lại là Ruby, rồi đóng. Rồi K Club, rồi đóng. Bây giờ là Wave Club. Nản! Ưu: sức chứa hơn 1000 người, nhiều khu vực, chơi đến 2,3 thậm chí 4h. Khuyết: không an toàn, đổi chủ, đổi phong cách liên tục 8. 008 (Echo-888 cũ): 8 Nguyễn Trung Trực, P.Bến Thành, Quận 1, ĐT: 8223827 => Tên mới, nv mới, quản lư mới… nhưng chủ cũ, GPKD cũ, nên cái quán cũng chẳng khác năm 19xx hồi đó là bao nhiêu. Ưu: sức chứa lớn, DJ quậy vui Khuyết: Pv kém, Décor xấu quá 9. Corner (Prive): DNTN Thế Góc Phố Lầu 1, TTTM Parkson, 35bis Lê Thánh Tôn, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 => Vừa mới khai trương lại, cũng tạm tạm, cho qua bữa đói! 10. SG Face (Ozone cũ): Công ty TNHH Thương mại Dịch vụ Sài G̣n Đại Việt Mr.Minh Tuấn 125 Trần Quốc Thảo, Phường 7, Quận 3 => Vui hay không vui, tùy cảm xúc mỗi người! 2 tầng lầu, 1 phong cách! Nhảm! Nên đă đóng cửa tầng trên. +++ Về bar Tây: 1. L.U.S.H: Công ty TNHH Nhà hàng Lân Uy Sơn Hà Ms. Phương Thảo 2, Lư Tự Trọng, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 => Mới đổi phong cách, thay v́ “hé cửa” đón khách Tây, Việt kiều, giới nghệ sĩ th́ bây giờ “mở cửa” đón “9x”. Miễn b́nh luận! Nhớ ghé thứ 6 và Chủ nhật thôi nhé! 2. Bounce: Lầu 4, TTTM Parkson, 35bis Lê Thánh Tôn, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 => Nhỏ mà xinh, đừng ghé thứ 2 hàng tuần v́ “đóng cửa”. Thứ 5, thứ 7 Hiphop nên cực đông. 3. Qucina (Q bar): Bên hông Nhà hát TP, 7 Công trường Lam Sơn, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1, ĐT: 8233479 => Một đẳng cấp Tây, một đẳng cấp Gay, một đẳng cấp Unisex! 4. XU Lounge: 71-73-75 Hai Bà Trưng (tầng 1), Quận 1 => Chán, chán và …chán! 5. Seventeen Saloon: 103A Phạm Ngũ Lăo, P. Phạm Ngũ Lăo, Quận 1, ĐT: 9140007 => Cowboy! Yeehah! == HÀNG NORMAL (POPULAR) == +++ Về bar Á: 1. Crystal Palace (new!) Lầu 3, 15-17-19, Tôn Thất Thiệp, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 2. Windy KS Quê Hương 1, 49 Nguyễn Đ́nh Chiểu, P.6, Q.3, ĐT: 8294229 3. 141 141 Nguyễn Đ́nh Chính, Quận Phú Nhuận 4. Sức sống mới (LOUIS) Lầu 2, 80 Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai, Phường 6, Quận 3 5. V3 Lầu 1, 80 Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai, Phường 6, Quận 3 6. LEXY: Lầu 3, 1 Cao Thắng, P.2, Quận 3 7. Apocalypse Now 2C Thi Sách, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1, ĐT: 824 1463 8. Hải Vân 69 Huỳnh Thúc Kháng, P.Bến Thành, Quận 1 9. La casa latina (Miss Digan) 11 Thái Văn Lung, Quận 1 10. Đông Kinh 106-108 Trần Tuấn Khải, P.5, Quận 5 11. VERTU (new!) 273 Huỳnh Văn Bánh, Q.Phú Nhuận 12. Metalic 41 Bà Huyện Thanh Quan, Phường P6, Quận 3, ĐT: 9303154 13. Art 1A (Nghệ Thuật) 705-707 Lê Hồng Phong nối dài, P.12, Quận 10 14. NOW – Villa - Thảo Ly Cư xá Bắc Hải (sau lưng CV Lê Thị Riêng), TRƯỜNG SƠN, P.15, Quận 10 15. CLB 2000 171-173-175 đường Chợ Lớn, Phường 11, Quận 6 16. 4 in 1 (Hồng Liên, FIO) 259 Hậu Giang, Phường 5, Quận 6, ĐT: 9692403 17. VIVAS Có 3 cái Vivas ở Sài G̣n, không cùng chủ. 18. VIVACE SuperBowl Center, A43 Trường Sơn, P.4, Quận Tân B́nh, ĐT: 848 8888 => Sắp khai trương lại với tên mới. 19. Canary 261 HOÀNG VĂN THỤ, P.2, Quận Tân B́nh, ĐT: 8441024 20. Grammy 123/2 PHẠM VẤN, P.PHÚ THỌ H̉A, Quận Tân Phú, ĐT: 8648251 +++Về bar Tây: 1. Nite Spot Lầu 23, KS Sheraton, 88 Đồng Khởi, Quận 1, ĐT: 8272828 2. Saigon Saigon bar Lầu 9, Caravelle Hotel, 19-23 Công trường Lam Sơn, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 3. Mulligan's Omni Saigon Hotel, 251 Nguyễn Văn Trỗi, Q.Phú Nhuận, ĐT: 844 9222 4. Blue Lotus Bar Novotel Garden Saigon, 309B-311 Nguyễn Văn Trỗi, Q.Tân B́nh, ĐT: 8421111 5. Panorama 33 Lầu 32, Saigon Trade Center, 37 Tôn Đức Thắng, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 6. CHU’s 158 Đồng Khởi, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1, ĐT: 8223907 7. HARRY'S (SAIGON RIVERSIDE OFFICE CENTER) 2A-4A TÔN ĐỨC THẮNG, P.BN, Q.1, ĐT: 8233333 8. BOTTOM LINE 21B TÔN ĐỨC THẮNG, P.BN, Q.1, ĐT: 9105621 9. Vasco’s 16 CAO BÁ QUÁT, Phường P BẾN NGHÉ, Quận 1, ĐT: 8243148 10. L`Elyse`E 17 LÊ DUẨN, Phường P.BẾN NGHÉ, Quận 1 11. LA FENETRE SOLEIL 135 LÊ THÁNH TÔN, P.Bến Thành, Q.1, ĐT: 8225209 12. Qing 31 Đông Du, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1, ĐT: 8232414 13. Underground 69 Đồng Khởi, Phường Bến Nghé, Quận 1, ĐT: 8299079 14. Samsara Lầu 1, 131 Đồng Khởi, P. Bến Nghé Q.1 15. Lodge BỤI 39A PHẠM NGỌC THẠCH, P.6, Q.3, ĐT: 8241963 16. Noblesse 148 Tran Hung Dao, P.Nguyễn Cư Trinh, Q.1 (KS Quê Hương 1 – Metropole) 17. Lido 265 Phạm Ngũ Lăo, P.Phạm Ngũ Lăo, Quận 1, ĐT: 8364556 (KS Quê Hương) 18. Polo 129 - 133 HÀM NGHI, P.Nguyễn Thái B́nh, Q.1, ĐT: 8216895 (KS Quê Hương) 19. Blue Sky Oscar Saigon Hotel, 68A Nguyễn Huệ,Q.1, ĐT: 829 2959 20. Medusa Amara Saigon Hotel, 323 Lê Văn Sỹ, Quận 3 == HÀNG CHEAP == +++Về bar Á: Paradise II đường Nguyễn thị Thập ,Q.7 007 đường Nguyễn Oanh, Q.G̣ Vấp Bumbi đường Hồ Văn Huê, Q.Phú Nhuận Las Vegas đường Lư Thường Kiệt, quận Tân B́nh J Club 115 đường Ḥa B́nh, Q.Tân Phú Mấy cái bar linh tinh ở Lũy Bán Bích, Q. Tân Phú: PS, Sao Mai, Suối reo… +++Về bar Tây: … Cyclo 163 Phạm Ngũ Lăo, Quận 1, ĐT: 920 1567 Allez Boo đường Phạm Ngũ Lăo (góc PNL-Đề Thám), Quận 1 (đă dẹp, thay bằng café Highland) Go2 187 Đề Thám (góc Đề Thám-Bùi Viện), Quận 1, ĐT: 836 9575 Shadow Pub 41 Đông Du, Quận 1, ĐT: 822 7375 Mấy cái bar linh tinh ở phố Tây Bùi Viện, Đề Thám, Phạm Ngũ Lăo == HÀNG THƯƠNG BINH, LIệT SĨ == Catwalk 76 Lê Lai, P.Bến Thành, Quận 1, ĐT: 8243760 => KS New World đang sửa nên cũng thoi thóp theo! Volcano 148 Cống Quỳnh, P.Nguyễn Cư Trinh, Quận 1 =>Đóng cửa sửa chữa! 1 tháng nữa khai trương lại, đẹp hơn, hoàng tráng hơn. X (030) 30 Nguyễn Cư Trinh, Phường Nguyễn Cư Trinh, Quận 1 => Đóng cửa sửa chữa điện! MGM 172c Nguyễn Đ́nh Chiểu, Phường 6, Quận 3, ĐT: 9307979 => “…Thôi rồi, Lượm ơi…” sang cho Ngọc Sương để làm nhà hàng NS Mania rồi c̣n đâu! Aqua 7 PHẠM NGỌC THẠCH, P.6, Q.3, ĐT: 8290583 => Đă đóng cửa v́ sai lầm chọn khách hàng là 9x: phá quậy, ít tiền. Thua! LU CLUB: (Blue Hoàng Thành) 77-89 Nam Kỳ Khởi Nghĩa, P.Bến Thành, Quận 1 => Đóng cửa luôn rồi. Từ hồi khai trương đến giờ bị 814 thanh tra mấy chục lần, xong rồi rút GPKD luôn. Nghe đâu ở đây cũng sắp xây cao ốc. Hix hix! Carmen 8 Lư Tự Trọng, P.Bến Nghé, Q.1, ĐT: 829 7699 => Đập nát bét rồi! Mưa rừng 5-15 Hồ Huấn Nghiệp, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 => Đập “banh xác” rồi c̣n đâu. Đi ngang chỉ c̣n là 1 đống gạch. Đang chuẩn bị xây cao ốc mà! Manna Lounge: thích nhất quán này! Luôn có mặt tại đây hàng tuần! Lầu 1, 26 Hồ Huấn Nghiệp, P.Bến Nghé, Quận 1 => Sang quán! Đang sửa chữa lại để làm 1 cái club mới, tháng 6 này khai trương. 123 123 LƯ CHÍNH THẮNG, P.7, Q.3 => Xây cao ốc nên đập rồi! ĐỆ NHẤT 18 Ḥang Việt, P.4, Quận Tân B́nh, ĐT: 8441199 => Đóng cửa! PARADISE 1 102 HỒ VĂN HUÊ, P.9, Q.PN, ĐT: 8476896 => Mấy ngày nữa dẹp v́ quá ế! Dự kiến là tháng 9 se đóng cửa. NEMO 100-102-104 Đường Số 23, P.11, Quận 6 => Sang quán! Hết! 2T 94 Mạc Đĩnh Chi, P.Đa Kao, Quận 1 => Đập banh xác! Boulevard 29 Thái Văn Lung, Quận 1 => Ế quá, đóng cửa rồi! == BAR “BIếN THÁI” == (có nghĩa là chẳng giống bar tí nào!) MTV 65 Vơ Văn Tần, Phường 6, Quận 3 Galaxy (Ngân Hà) 215 Điện Biên Phủ, Phường 6, Quận 3 Marco Polo (An Nhiên) 45 Lư Chính Thắng, Phường 8, Quận 3 Beegees Trang 189 Lê Văn Sỹ, Phường 14, Q.Phú Nhuận, ĐT: 9907908 Acoustic 6E1 Ngô Thời Nhiệm, Quận 3 Yoko 22A Nguyễn Thị Diệu, Phường 6, Quận 3 Fusion 9 Trương Công Định, Phường 14, Q. Tân B́nh
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Thanks all for valuable advices and thanks for for sharing so much info abt HCM!!!
I will be landing in HCM for 1st time on tuesday, staying for a week for work commitments. Need more advices. 1) Anyone got a good driver to recommend?? Preferaby able to speak chinese or at least able to understand bulk of it? 2) Anyone knows what kind of plug vietnam use? Same as Singapore? Does hotel provide adpator sockets? 3) How much USD should i change in SG 1st? I planning to bring SGD 1,000 to HCM (hotel and food by company) 4) Lastly any bros wanna meet up? I should be free most nights  Any number i can call there?
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Palace - open, closed, open, closed --currently closed. Q bar - shuttered up fairly recently Metalic - gutted pretty recently -- reopening? not sure, but certainly non-existent at the moment VIVAS - has been history a long time now Canary - not sure--there was a New Canary up in that area that is now history, need to double check this address to see if this "Old Canary" may still be intact (or they could be one and the same, in which case they're both history) My hopes not high. New Canary wasn't very good, btw. BOTTOM LINE - now a Japanese restaurant Vasco’s - moved to a courtyard off Hai Ba Trung, around corner from its old location Medusa - changed name to Zeus a few yrs back and supposedly has cleaned up and reduced staff drastically Shadow Pub - reopened at a new location, but then that new one closed too -- pretty sure it's gone for good now MGM - certainly gone for good Carmen - a pile of rubble now Mưa rừng - was a pile of rubble for some time, and is now being turned into a high rise. In its hey dey it was a completely ordinary disco. 123 - it's an empty lot now, the entire building is gone. It was more a place for live acts than to meet any girls. Currently more of a place to find small stones and dust. But this list has some real out-of-the-way spots on it. These ones in D6, D10, Tan Binh, etc. might be worth finding. Hopefully many are are still around.
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Firstly, i need to sharethat Commercial is never the issue as it's transactional and it is just always about agreeing about the price:value ratio. However,between Thailand and Vietnam, Thailand has already an established system in place that seems so awesome. My disappointment with Vietnam is not so much along the commercial scene but rather the non commercial end. In Singapore, thailand, indonesia etc.., you will meet ladies who will go home with you without the monetary expectations becasue, at the end of the day, they are independent and is also looking for good time. Any of you guys who have been to Balaclava in Sing or bars like Prop Bar/Curve is Thailand will know that the foreplay starts with the 1st whisky. If you are in Singapore and have not experience a sensual liason from happy hours at balacalava, then pls save the airfare to HCMC becasue that is a well know setting for professional bankers/marketing executives/etc.. to get their fix. The challenge with Vietnam is that it is still a developing economy. At the end of the day, girls(majority at least) who hang around in bars is there for a economic reason. No working professional will blow 60 000 to 80 000 dong for a drink in a bar when they have pending obligations at home. They will save the money....think Singapore about 25 years ago, how many of our parents or older relatives spend earn money on drinks? Little i say. Hence, at the end of the day, the girls in Vietnam will "need " to accept your goodwill(whether it is money or the illusion of a prospective relationship). For that reason l, i go for the expat market as these ladies are independent and if they go back with you, it's becasue they want fun too! At the end of the day, there is limited difference whether you go to bars in district 10, thu duc or district 1. If a Vietnamese girls has to go to a bar, it is usually for for pratical reasons shared above. It will probably take another 5 years before we see a breed of soshisticated non commercials girls as the majority in these places. When i say thai girls, i mean non commercial thai girls...rather girls in thailand who have reached a certain level of financial independence or mindset where havin fun is quite acceptable. And that means, when you ask them to take the evening to your place after the drinks and dancing, it is very much accepted as extension of the fun you had during the evening. I made this comment about vietnam after 1 year becasue i think these are the soft nuances which i have observed as very poignant differences. Seriously, with a bit of conversation, a smile and some confidence, one may not need to resort to commercial. But hey, i still recognize different strokes for different man. At the same time, i do believe i i have invested much time to explore Saigon beyond the traditional D10, D1, D5 ,D3 and at the same time at the social events around Saigon. Usually i am the only Singaporean in a face of a huge expat community. No disrespect to very senior individuals who have been in HCMC but i believe, this is an area which still not very explored by Singaporeans. I like to encourage Singaporean to go to not just bar, but go to events. Go to Chateu Glamour events at lush or Viet Moi nights at Xu Bar or Flaunt parties at Bounce or even DoSe. Touch your heart and ask, how many of us have gone to these events or at challenge the comfort barrier to try new things. If you guys want to find out, just search them on facebook. You will know what i am saying. If you guys wanna go to nice place for some food and some spa by the river, take a ride to An Phu(District 2) Bring your girls for a evening cocktail at the Deck at 33 Nguyen U Di or go to 195 Thao Dien. Also, there are a couple of beautiful "desperate housewifes" in the evening and nice expat ladies always chilling out. So , draw up that confidence, put on that smile and close the deal to make us Singapore dude proud. Subjugate and conquer beyond one comfort zone of commercial Viet girls. And even if you want to get a viet girl, set the bench mark higher. Some say long hair dictionary but i say long leg dictionary(models) I really think we as Singaporeans something compromise on our self beliefs. Maybe because we are constrain by circustances but we tend to just settle for commercial. What i really hate is when i see ang moh with less "liao" than many of us being more garang than us. And while they score with the real hotties in Vietnam, most of us here are contented with a discussion of 100 000k handjobs. I just want to encourage us to more garang and as we grow in our confidence, maybe we can really be a change agent in Vietnam social scene! ==================================== Lastly, i overheard this from a fellow Singaporean who summarized between Singaporean girls, Thai girls and Vietnamese girls Singapore girls are like doctors, really professional and get you well when you are sick but so clincial that it loses it attractiveness. Still you stick with them for life for praticial reasons. Vietnamese girls are like physio-therapist. Becasue they nurse you back to health, you feel you have a bond with them. Thai girls are like masseues, they do absolutely nothing for your health but then, you can't help it and still go back for your massage no matter what!
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Anyways, from what i know, seems most expats here are married with children. Perhaps the small segment that you were referring to, are fairweather tourists who make seasonal trips. And from my experience, you must be really a ladies man Tuyen coz Japanese and Korean chicks are not that much into Asian looking dudes especially in foreign lands. This is a fact that my Japanese and Korean female friends attest. FTV is pretty cool. Just too many poseurs and kids. Somehow, i do miss the Parisian and Singaporean club scene. Good music at least... Bros out there, any place i could head to catch good music like those you get in places like MOS?
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Today had an superb encounter or should I say 2 encounters...Chat up 2Korean ladies working as Cabin Crew for XXX Airlines... They happened to stay in the same floor as I and one happens to be right next to my hotel room...They saw me meddling with my Sony Portable DVD player in the lounge area and we started talking about DVDs that I have bought... Invited them to my room to watch some movies and they agreed... hehehe..Went back to my room I was sitting on my Huge sofa (Director, you know what I mean by huge right) and both ladies were sitting on my bed... I inserted the movie Hulk and we started watching...Half way through the movie one of them (Long Hair one) asked me whether am I comfortable on the sofa... I said I'm fine.. But she invited me to join them on the King Size Bed...'What the fish'... it is my room and they invite me to join them on the bed..So I joined them and I have long hair on my left and short hair on my right...
Long Hair started to rest her hand on my thighs but I jokingly said better not because I will be horny..To my surprise she said she also horny..I say if she and me horny then her friend (Short Hair) how,,,, she said try to make her friend horny also....I look at her friend and she was smiling at me.... I said to myself... 'Nabei' now how....before I can react, the longhair one... use her hand and fondle my Canon...By now ready for 'Action Front' liao...At this point of time I totally lost control and was manipulated by 2 Horny Bitch..... 'Nabei' felt like I kenna rape by 2 horny women but it was real fun... Their body is 'Sibeh Nap Nap!!!'First time bonking Korean and already Bonk 2 at one go...After our session, three of us slept together for about 2 hours...Wondering what the fish should I do before they left but they never ask for $$.....They just put on their shorts and tank tops and just went back to their room...I thought come HCMC can only bonk Viet Gals but this was a surprise...hehehe
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13-10-2008, 03:08 AM
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I think you better stick to this hotel and don't change to another one. Scally your luck change how?
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13-10-2008, 04:07 AM
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13-10-2008, 05:06 AM
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If you happen to be arond the area, it would be ok to check it out. However if you make a trip out just to find the places, it might be a waste of time.
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13-10-2008, 05:24 AM
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Bala used to be a favourite hang out of mine way back in the says it first started out and i do agree with you that it is a most happenin place during happy hour. I has most certainly been a bountiful hunting ground for many of us. Your observation of the "scene" here in HCMC is most certainly correct. After my few years here and just observing the scene, I must say you have hit the nail on the head. I have met viet girls who are always more than happy to head back for "after drinks" and it has progressed to just wild sex after that but not many. However, it really depends on where you go. For people who are based here, we have the luxury of time. For the tourist / traveller, it would be the opposite. Most times, it is just a fix or an itch that needs to be scratch. On the flip side, this has started to change where there are more and more young ladies having a shift in mind set regarding "sexually discovering" themselves. I have met girls who are great in bed, never ask for money but wants a realtionship which is understandle because they see expats as a way out of "poverty". I am sure you know just how wide the gap is in the standard of living and the average wage of the locals. As for changing, I would dare say that it would be hard, there are 10 mil in HCMC where about 7 mil are ladies. There are only a few thousand of us singaporeans here. I do sincerely and genuinly hope one day we can meet and exhange views. It would most certainly be a very very intresting conversation.
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