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Old 12-11-2008, 02:43 AM
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Post My Kabukicho experiemce

Was posting tips to the earlier Kabukicho thread then realised might as well do a FR instead and expand on some points that Samster eternity brought up.

Prior to leaving I posted on an ang moh forum for advice on where to go in Tokyo to watch on stage fuck shows. No response but a kind soul did pm me on where he's been to for fun and which are according to him gaijin friendly.

Basic etiquette: Filming is almost always prohibited (but see section on Rockza below) with extreme fines if you're caught, think the signs say 500,000 yen... and do you really want to mess with potentially Yakuza-run places?

So here's what I did on my recent Tokyo trip:

Mission 1: New Hot Point
Basically a peep show with optional service, entry is 2k yen and you check your cellphone in at the counter. What happens is you watch the 'magic mirror' show as they call it, and a girl will come and knock on your door. You have 2 choices if you want extra service. You can have the girl who visits you perform the service, or can opt for the girl who is dancing to service you when she's done dancing. No changes once you've decided. All BJ with cap, you can't pay your way to commando BJ.

This is the break down of the extras:
Lip & bust touch service, 4k yen
HJ & bust touch service, 3k yen
HJ service, 2k yen
Panty present, 2k yen

Waited in a small curtained area with some other guys for the show to start. Then they ushered us to really, really really, tiny cubicles to watch. The cubicles are arranged around the small dance area like a cage. Theres a box of tissue there, and a small hole with a grill over it that allows unblocked view of the dance area. Think almost phone booth size, barely can fit the stool in there. Given their size I'm not sure who was the one in the cage.

Here's the important thing: guys will generally take service from the girl who knocks on the door, not the dancer since you don't want to wait. If you're the guy in the first cubicle, this is a pretty good option. Not so much if
you're the guy in the 4th cube (me...).

So finally its my turn, she knocks on the door and comes in. Bear in mind the room is telephone booth size, so the stool gets pushed into the corridor and you stand up while she squats/ kneels. Lighting in these places is pathetic but could see she was quite pretty. I undo my pants and she starts the HJ with some lotion, followed by the condom and BJ. She let me fondle her titties and they were very very nice and full, B to C cup.

So where's the finish? Well not knowing what to expect I didn't service myself while waiting, and the peep show was kinda blah. BJ generally doesn't have much effect on me so when it finally comes to my turn, the poor girl was really at it a long time but didi was not cooperating. Feeling bad for her kneeling, combined with the tiny cubicle I said its ok to stop. She was apologetic but I had a feeling we could be there all night with no result. So she wipes off the lotion with more apologies and I leave unfulfilled.

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Old 12-11-2008, 04:00 AM
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Re: My Kabukicho experiemce

Mission 2: Rockza

Its 8pm and I've had no luck getting my rocks off at New Hot Point. One of the things I wanted to visit in Tokyo was the Rockza strip show. Samsters who've been to Macau might have seen their show going on at the Lisbon Hotel. I went to the Shinjuku one. Sadly Maria Ozawa was in Macau at the time.

For those who don't know, Rockza is a strip show of which some of the dancers are AV stars. Some retired, some current. If you check their site you'll see familiar names like Ai Kurosawa, Jun Kusanagi, Sally Yoshino. Got your attention yet?

So I make my way deeper into Kabukicho past bars and eateries finally to the Shinjuku branch of Rockza. Its kind of in a dead end street tucked away from everything. Passed some other places which were presumably also strip shows but I'd not done any homework on them, so felt it was better to move on. The entrance to Rockza leads downstairs with a tiny window on the left where you pay your 5k yen admission.

If you look at the schedule for the dances, theres basically 5 girls with a finale of all of them at the end. The last show of the day does not have a finale so go earlier if you want to see it. Here's the thing: The 5k yen admission lets you stay as long as you want (Pretty sure). I arrive at 830pm and when I left at 2330 many of the audience were still there! You also get complimentary canned beer in the tiny lobby/ smoking area. Just signal to the counter guy that you're taking a can. Soft drinks you gotta buy from vending machine...

The shows are pretty much on-going with short breaks in between. Its not like a movie where you meet the timing, watch and then leave. You could basically spend the whole day there if you have nothing better to do... So I go in and Sally Yoshino is finishing up her routine. She's the 4th act of the previous show which is why I say there seems to be no set show time that you must follow. Very energetic in your routine and she finishes by coming into the audience to give some guys a breast press to the face (not everyone, only the left side of the room).

A word on seeing your AV idols 10 years later: Sometimes fond memories are best left as fond memories. While Sally's body still looks nice, her face has become kinda pinched if you can get my meaning. Chin and features kinda sharper than last time. But thats part and parcel of growing old I suppose. Anyway.

The Shinjuku Rockza room is about 10x10m with a turn table stage. There are stools set up near the stage for those who want to get up close, and 4 rows of auditorium style benches. There are tambourines(!) near where you come in the door and one guy did take one to beat in time with the music.

In Rockza the girl will come out and do a dance number while clothed first. It can be some fast jpop piece or a slower one depending on the routine. Then they perform the strip tease finishing off on the turn table stage holding some pose that shows off their pussy (and some very siong poses indeed). After that the lights will come on and the girl will come out clothed for a photo session and chit chat with her fans. You have to use their supplied polaroid camera and prices are 500 to 1k yen per shot depending on the performer. Sally was 1k, a SYT who I don't know was 500 yen.

So guys line up to get a picture and they get some neoprint sticker stamp also (some point card thing I think). The scary thing is I saw guys with entire photobooks of these polaroids. Truly AV otaku. Now if the girl is willing, she'll strip and do poses you request for the polaroids. 2 of them did it and there was an instant rush to queue. Guys who'd bought previously requeued. It tends to be the 500 yen girls, but if it boosts sales what the hell eh? After the photo session the girl will come out totally naked for another quick dance and that's it for her part.

Apparently there's an exception to the no video/ photo rule. You'd need to talk to the guy in charge, and probably for god knows how much extra they'll let you shoot video or take photos. They're hardcore fans so I suppose I shouldn't bother wondering why they'd want to.

Its worth mentioning there was a pretty varied audience. There was a pretty old middle management type seated centre right in front of the stage. Couple of otaku seated on the stools just at the bottom of the stage and the rest made up of salaryman types. The surprising thing was around 10pm 2 girls came in to watch. I was wondering maybe they're performers from other places nearby and its like a industry thing but they're regular folk I guess. And before Sally's final act a guy and his girlfriend came in. The girl even tried the breast press!

I hung around to get my money's worth till 11pm and left in case I missed the train back to my hotel.

Status: Still unfulfilled but expected since I was visiting a strip show.

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Old 12-11-2008, 04:52 PM
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Re: My Kabukicho experiemce

Mission 3: Shinjuku Heisei Jogakuen

Best for last. My ang moh friend really came thru on this one. Heisei Jogakuen has a couple of branches around Tokyo including Shibuya, Ikebukuro and Shimbashi. Don't let the school girl thing deter you, the uniform comes off soon enough. Prices are variable according to what time you visit, more expensive towards evening.

Think Heisei Jogakuen is classified as a Pink Salon. Pink Salons are BJ specialty places, no FJ. The really whacked out thing is they have no cap BJ and AF on the menu... Go figure. System starts with 30, 40 or 50 mins with optional time extensions. Basic service includes: deep kiss, BB, BJ without cap, fingering ok, breast fuck, ball suck, AR, 69, sumata, CIM. Prices start at 7k yen for early bird special and up. Prices also vary by locale so Shibuya is the priciest of the lot.

Options:
Pink rotor (that vibrating ball thing that they're so fond of) 2k
Tear panythose 2k
Panty present 2k
Watch her masturbate 2k
blindfold 2k
polaroid 2k
watch her pee 3k
vibrator 4k
Facial shot 4k
即尺 (not sure, s.t. to do with BJ) 5k
Denma (like those osim massager thingy) 8k
AF 10k(!)

Note: Not all girls will do the options. And usually theres only one who will do AF. So if thats what you really want you'll need to check the schedule and go on that day. Of course be on your best behaviour and respect the girls wishes.

I drop by in the afternoon. Heisei Jogakuen is just further down the street from New Hot Point, just walked right past it yesterday without noticing... Select the cheapest option which is 9k yen. I think choosing girls is extra so I just went with the luck of the draw. Again like New Hot Point you wait in a small curtained area then they'll call you to the room. The room is about 1/2 the size of those at Dragon Exec, with a bed which is like a platform thing like in those bay windows. Theres a mirror next to the bed and a small shower area attached. The girl comes in and while she's not exactly AV idol status, she looks decent enough with small tits but at least I'm not getting a PRC Decepticon.

She helps me undress, hanging up my shirt and pants and even putting my socks in a little basket on the floor. She then strips off her school girl uniform and steps into the shower first and calls me in as well. Inside she washes me thoroughly with soap with special attention to the didi. She also mixes a cup of dettol like solution and tells me to gargle. Thinking back, I guess its in her own best interest to ensure the customer is thorougly clean and disinfected.

Shower done we come out and dry off and I lie on the bed. She process to BB me and she's very good indeed, could sense I was senstive in the tummy area and continued to tease me. Then its the lotion handjob cum BJ. Her technique wasn't exactly the best I've tried, but it was quite ok. And in this relaxed atmosphere so much better than the cramped cubicle at NHP. We switch up for the 69 and I get a good look at her trimmed bush. Then we come to sumata and she sits on me and rubs her pussy against my dick till I finally let loose 2 days worth of frustration. After that she cleans me up with tissues and we do another shower together.

The shower time of course eats into your total booking so take note. Overall I'd say the place is so much more worth it than the peep show place. That cost me 6k yen for a lousy blow. For 9k I get a bath and almost full service in a more relaxed place? Also compared to soaplands where prices start at 30k for a slightly longer session, I could do 3 visits to a pink salon instead. Coming back again is a no-brainer.

Didn't think I'd write so much. There's an afterword I want to add about talking to the counter staff and directions to the places if you can't figure from the websites to follow. Will post that tomorrow.
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Old 13-11-2008, 02:17 PM
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Re: My Kabukicho experiemce

Afterword:

Locations of places:
Finding places can be tough in Japan. Even taxi drivers horlan. But their GPS very power, houses/ places are indexed by phone number. If you got the number, chances are they can find the place. Thanks to Google you can just cut and paste the address and they'll show you where it is on the map. It doesn't always work and sometimes the marker is a bit off, but its better than blundering around getting ripped off by Nigerian touts. This is a map I've done of the places I went in this FR. Probably in subsequent trips I'll be adding other places to it as well.

Google Maps

Language definitely the biggest stumbling block to us. This would be the most commonly used one:
Excuse me, are foreigners ok?
Sumimasen, gaikokujin wa ii desu ka?
The counter guy might reply in rapid fire Japanese but don't panic, if its no they'll start sounding apologetic and head shake their head.

My ang moh friend generally preferred pubbing in Roppongi, cos in the end all it would cost him is a room. "But he's ang moh wat" you say, "Thats like instant passport to SPG/ JPG land". True enuf but we must throw off this colonial mentality sometime or another... Also generally his pickups in the Roppongi bars are Pinoy. Ah well. Gaijin friendly places tend to be near the American bases but they're really out of the way from Tokyo, also kind of made worse nowadays due to the problems with American servicemen. YMMV.

Had a chat with a greeter in front of the building where New Hot Point is. He basically tries to get people to visit his hostess bar like what bro eternity went to. Apparently salarymen enjoy the company of having a pretty girl to chat with while they drink. That's it... Seeing the popularity of maid cafes I guess I can sort of understand. Its not just about getting your rocks off, having a pretty girl listen to your problems and make you feel like a winner is valid too.

According to him pussy starts at 30k yen and up. And you might not even be getting Japanese pussy at that. My friend sent a link years ago for Korean services in Japan and the girls looked very nice. Sadly the link has been long lost but thats something to consider for a next trip. Plus they'd probably be more inclined to play with foreigners than the Japanese.

I have not tried soaplands but prices also tend to be 30k and up. Majority of them are member-only affairs which filter out us gaijin. From another forum Silkroad is supposed to be gaijin friendly but it was too far outside Tokyo for me to try and try my luck. The price listed on the site is kinda low which probably means theres a member system there too. As mentioned in the pink salon bit earlier, for a soapland visit you could do 3 sessions at the pink salon. Sure there's the once in a lifetime factor but this is the value balance for me.

Scattered around Kabukicho and other nightlife places are 案内所 which are sort of info kiosks. They recommend places based on your requirements and will bring you to the shop usually for free. They probably get a paid for referrals. Anyway my friend's Japanese colleague used one of these places when he wanted to play in Tokyo. Highly unlikely they'll speak English but probably a step-up from the roadside touts. If all else fails you could fall back on the hand signs for pussy or fucking.

I hope this info is useful to fellow Samsters, and dun spoil market with bad behaviour hor, I want to visit Heisei Jogakuen again
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Thanks for sharing a great experience in Japan. Good info and waiting for more exciting stuff coming up !
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Excellent posts. Keep them coming!!
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Re: My Kabukicho experiemce

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Keep up the good work! For Japanese standards these places are very affordable indeed. Most importantly none of that PRC decepticons. Hahaha.
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Got your PM bro Tony Stark. Look forward to meeting up. Seems nobody posts anything abt Japan really. Quite sad!! But to be honest if one is brave it can be quite easy to pick up in Japan. Especially if you go to those international parties which they hold on the weekends with nomihodai (all you can drink). God bless the person who invented this. Makes girls so much easier to pick up!! Lol!!
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Sorry for another post but if any bros happen to be ard tokyo do PM me if you want to even just hang out. Hopefully some bros can sign in here and maybe meet up!
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Im so old now that I forgot a short FR. I used to live ard Oimachi which is quite near Kawasaki Tokyo area. Kawasaki is quite well known for having many MS places. Walk ard the area at night and you will have many ladies asking if you want massage.

Anyways was feeling bored one night after drinking and was walking home when a lady asked if i wanted a massage. I was like what the heck just try lor. Anyways was brought to a small place. You can choose the girl from photos they have. Please note that these are all PRC girls. Well it was quite cheap by Japanese standard. 10K yen for 40 mins or 15k for 60.

After choosing you go to the back and they lead you to a cubicle of sorts with like a massage table. Stripped, went for a shower, came back and standard BJ/FJ. Nothing to brag abt really. Girl was very accommodating to me. Guess I was lucky. Thats it from me. Cheers!!
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But to be honest if one is brave it can be quite easy to pick up in Japan. Especially if you go to those international parties which they hold on the weekends with nomihodai (all you can drink). God bless the person who invented this. Makes girls so much easier to pick up!! Lol!!
I remember long ago they use t have a few disco in Kabukicho area with free flow of drinks (nomihodai) and the pickings are good..usually a mixture of syt n office girls out for a night of fun.

Don't know why all close down

Now I end up spending my time in video cubicles and PCC
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Is there any good pub ard?
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not sure if u can also remember that there would be some funny background music being played at the premises. faster beats per minute (BPM) would mean a lot of customers are waiting outside. less BPM would mean situation all normal not much customers outside. till today, i am still wondering how the hell the pimp controls the BPM.
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Im so old now that I forgot a short FR. I used to live ard Oimachi which is quite near Kawasaki Tokyo area. Kawasaki is quite well known for having many MS places. Walk ard the area at night and you will have many ladies asking if you want massage.

Anyways was feeling bored one night after drinking and was walking home when a lady asked if i wanted a massage. I was like what the heck just try lor. Anyways was brought to a small place. You can choose the girl from photos they have. Please note that these are all PRC girls. Well it was quite cheap by Japanese standard. 10K yen for 40 mins or 15k for 60.

After choosing you go to the back and they lead you to a cubicle of sorts with like a massage table. Stripped, went for a shower, came back and standard BJ/FJ. Nothing to brag abt really. Girl was very accommodating to me. Guess I was lucky. Thats it from me. Cheers!!
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not sure if u can also remember that there would be some funny background music being played at the premises. faster beats per minute (BPM) would mean a lot of customers are waiting outside. less BPM would mean situation all normal not much customers outside. till today, i am still wondering how the hell the pimp controls the BPM.
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Lol!! The music is to psycho you into drilling faster!! Same reason why fast food joints usually play fast music as well. Btw any of the bros who replied to this thread........r u guys based here in tokyo??
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Is there any good pub ard?
Good pubs?? Well there is a pub in Shibuya i tend to go to when im in the area. Its called Coins Bar. Its located just opp Tokyu Hands. Look for a flight of steps leading down and thats it. Lots of foreigners there. All drinks are 315 yen after tax so really cheap!! There is also a standing bar on the street behind it. Same concept just no seats!!
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